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Where do you fall on the political compass? [modified]

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  • P Philip Laureano

    originSH wrote:

    It's interesting seeing where Hillary Clinton would be ... damn conservative :P

    I'm willing to bet that she falls squarely on the RA quadrant, as well. Now that I think of it, I have yet to see anyone here with an Economic Right score greater than three, despite the fact that there seems to be a lot of posts regarding which candidate is better, and why. What you have is a lot of 'lefties' that are arguing which (geometrically) right wing candidate is more suited to their needs. Does anyone else here smell the irony?

    Do you know...LinFu?

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    originSH
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    http://www.politicalcompass.org/usprimaries2008[^] She's about 4R 2A, so pretty firmly in there. It is pretty funny that even the "lefties" are "righties" in this case :P

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    • P Philip Laureano

      You can take the test here[^]. :) Interestingly enough, if you look at the scores[^] for the candidates for the U.S. presidential election, the most left-leaning Democratic candidate is NOT Barack Obama, but Dennis Kucinich. On the Republican side, the most right-leaning candidate is actually Ron Paul, and the most left-leaning candidate among the Republicans is John McCain. What's disturbing about all this is that aside from Dennis Kucinich and Mike Gravel, all of the candidates from the primaries are in the Right Authoritarian quadrant. So no matter who you decide to vote for in the Right/Left Wing of the U.S. political system, you're actually choosing a Right Authoritarian. In other words, both wings of the system are in the same quadrant, and what you essentially get is a false choice. Anyway, back to my question--what was your score, and which candidate will you vote for?

      Do you know...LinFu?

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      Anna Jayne Metcalfe
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      Economic Left/Right: -2.50 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.85 I've always been more libertarian the authoritarian, but the left/right bit varies depending on which questions you ask me... :rolleyes:

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      • P Philip Laureano

        You can take the test here[^]. :) Interestingly enough, if you look at the scores[^] for the candidates for the U.S. presidential election, the most left-leaning Democratic candidate is NOT Barack Obama, but Dennis Kucinich. On the Republican side, the most right-leaning candidate is actually Ron Paul, and the most left-leaning candidate among the Republicans is John McCain. What's disturbing about all this is that aside from Dennis Kucinich and Mike Gravel, all of the candidates from the primaries are in the Right Authoritarian quadrant. So no matter who you decide to vote for in the Right/Left Wing of the U.S. political system, you're actually choosing a Right Authoritarian. In other words, both wings of the system are in the same quadrant, and what you essentially get is a false choice. Anyway, back to my question--what was your score, and which candidate will you vote for?

        Do you know...LinFu?

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        Dan Neely
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        The libertarians quiz is notoriously known to be biased, even more than most of the other online political tests. :rolleyes: That said, Tovorich Kucinich has ran on the ultra loony left fringe of the dem party for decades because IIRC his district includes O'Berlin college, which gives Berzerkly a run for it's money as the most leftist college in the nation.

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        • S Stan Shannon

          Oakman wrote:

          just like mah hero, Thomas Jefferson

          Yes, your hero would have agreed that the state should not be empowered to force anyone's moral/political beliefs upon others - including his own.

          Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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          Stan Shannon wrote:

          Yes, your hero would have agreed that the state should not be empowered to force anyone's moral/political beliefs upon others - including his own.

          Absolutely - he was a tolerant man who believed that truth did not need protection by the state.

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          • P Philip Laureano

            You can take the test here[^]. :) Interestingly enough, if you look at the scores[^] for the candidates for the U.S. presidential election, the most left-leaning Democratic candidate is NOT Barack Obama, but Dennis Kucinich. On the Republican side, the most right-leaning candidate is actually Ron Paul, and the most left-leaning candidate among the Republicans is John McCain. What's disturbing about all this is that aside from Dennis Kucinich and Mike Gravel, all of the candidates from the primaries are in the Right Authoritarian quadrant. So no matter who you decide to vote for in the Right/Left Wing of the U.S. political system, you're actually choosing a Right Authoritarian. In other words, both wings of the system are in the same quadrant, and what you essentially get is a false choice. Anyway, back to my question--what was your score, and which candidate will you vote for?

            Do you know...LinFu?

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            Economic Left/Right: 5.38 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 3.13

            Mike - typical white guy. The USA does have universal healthcare, but you have to pay for it. D'oh. Thomas Mann - "Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil." The NYT - my leftist brochure. Calling an illegal alien an “undocumented immigrant” is like calling a drug dealer an “unlicensed pharmacist”. God doesn't believe in atheists, therefore they don't exist.

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              Economic Left/Right: 5.38 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 3.13

              Mike - typical white guy. The USA does have universal healthcare, but you have to pay for it. D'oh. Thomas Mann - "Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil." The NYT - my leftist brochure. Calling an illegal alien an “undocumented immigrant” is like calling a drug dealer an “unlicensed pharmacist”. God doesn't believe in atheists, therefore they don't exist.

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              Oakman
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              Mike Gaskey wrote:

              Economic Left/Right: 5.38 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 3.13

              I think the proper classification here is Monarchist. ;)

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                Mike Gaskey wrote:

                Economic Left/Right: 5.38 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 3.13

                I think the proper classification here is Monarchist. ;)

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                Mike Gaskey
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                Oakman wrote:

                I think the proper classification here is Monarchist.

                ya, but only as long as I wear the crown!! problem is, there's not middle of the road choices. I've also discovered that as I age I see things in black and white terms. when I was younger I saw many shades of gray.

                Mike - typical white guy. The USA does have universal healthcare, but you have to pay for it. D'oh. Thomas Mann - "Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil." The NYT - my leftist brochure. Calling an illegal alien an “undocumented immigrant” is like calling a drug dealer an “unlicensed pharmacist”. God doesn't believe in atheists, therefore they don't exist.

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                • L Lost User

                  Economic Left/Right: -3.62 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.69 Funny though, if you asked me I'd say I lean more to the right

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                  Josh Gray wrote:

                  Funny though, if you asked me I'd say I lean more to the right

                  Same here... Economic Left/Right: -0.50 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.10 I was actually a little shocked. I didn't expect to fall in the authoritatian region, but I expected to be more to the right.


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                  • P Philip Laureano

                    You can take the test here[^]. :) Interestingly enough, if you look at the scores[^] for the candidates for the U.S. presidential election, the most left-leaning Democratic candidate is NOT Barack Obama, but Dennis Kucinich. On the Republican side, the most right-leaning candidate is actually Ron Paul, and the most left-leaning candidate among the Republicans is John McCain. What's disturbing about all this is that aside from Dennis Kucinich and Mike Gravel, all of the candidates from the primaries are in the Right Authoritarian quadrant. So no matter who you decide to vote for in the Right/Left Wing of the U.S. political system, you're actually choosing a Right Authoritarian. In other words, both wings of the system are in the same quadrant, and what you essentially get is a false choice. Anyway, back to my question--what was your score, and which candidate will you vote for?

                    Do you know...LinFu?

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                    2.25 -3.03 So a right wing libertarian, but not too far from center. No surprise to me.

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                    • P Philip Laureano

                      You can take the test here[^]. :) Interestingly enough, if you look at the scores[^] for the candidates for the U.S. presidential election, the most left-leaning Democratic candidate is NOT Barack Obama, but Dennis Kucinich. On the Republican side, the most right-leaning candidate is actually Ron Paul, and the most left-leaning candidate among the Republicans is John McCain. What's disturbing about all this is that aside from Dennis Kucinich and Mike Gravel, all of the candidates from the primaries are in the Right Authoritarian quadrant. So no matter who you decide to vote for in the Right/Left Wing of the U.S. political system, you're actually choosing a Right Authoritarian. In other words, both wings of the system are in the same quadrant, and what you essentially get is a false choice. Anyway, back to my question--what was your score, and which candidate will you vote for?

                      Do you know...LinFu?

                      modified on Thursday, September 18, 2008 11:07 PM

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                      Stan Shannon
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                      Questions such as this: Those with the ability to pay should have the right to higher standards of medical care . Are heavily biased, so I won't take it. It isn't a question of 'rights' one way or another. So one cannot agree or disagree with it as expressed. It is a question of whether free market economics or collectivist economics provides the most people with the best possible health care.

                      Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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                      • P Philip Laureano

                        You can take the test here[^]. :) Interestingly enough, if you look at the scores[^] for the candidates for the U.S. presidential election, the most left-leaning Democratic candidate is NOT Barack Obama, but Dennis Kucinich. On the Republican side, the most right-leaning candidate is actually Ron Paul, and the most left-leaning candidate among the Republicans is John McCain. What's disturbing about all this is that aside from Dennis Kucinich and Mike Gravel, all of the candidates from the primaries are in the Right Authoritarian quadrant. So no matter who you decide to vote for in the Right/Left Wing of the U.S. political system, you're actually choosing a Right Authoritarian. In other words, both wings of the system are in the same quadrant, and what you essentially get is a false choice. Anyway, back to my question--what was your score, and which candidate will you vote for?

                        Do you know...LinFu?

                        modified on Thursday, September 18, 2008 11:07 PM

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                        bulg
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                        -3.75, -3.75, Libertarian Lefty, and i can't tell you caz its a sekret

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                        • S Stan Shannon

                          Questions such as this: Those with the ability to pay should have the right to higher standards of medical care . Are heavily biased, so I won't take it. It isn't a question of 'rights' one way or another. So one cannot agree or disagree with it as expressed. It is a question of whether free market economics or collectivist economics provides the most people with the best possible health care.

                          Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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                          bulg
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                          dude, they don't know if you took a civics course in the last ten years or so, lighten up.

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