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Windows development is the law! And nothing will ever replace C++ as my favorite language.
To those who understand, I extend my hand. To the doubtful I demand: Take me as I am. Not under your command, I know where I stand. I won't change to fit yout plan. Take me as I am.
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Your going to start a language war :rolleyes: I'll say go dotNet :badger:
Harvey Saayman - South Africa Junior Developer .Net, C#, SQL
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I have moved from MS only development to Qt so I can support windows, Linux and Macintosh with all of my applications. I use CMake to generate the projects for the respective compilers so I have only 1 codebase.
John
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Web dev wins by a nose, simply by managing to stay slightly less insane than Win32/WinForms. Frankly though, i much prefer dev that doesn't consist primarily of working around bad design decisions in the platform.
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You're right. These facts that you've laid out totally contradict the wild ramblings that I pulled off the back of cornflakes packets.
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I have moved from MS only development to Qt so I can support windows, Linux and Macintosh with all of my applications. I use CMake to generate the projects for the respective compilers so I have only 1 codebase.
John
I like Qt, hate the price. :)
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb) John Andrew Holmes "It is well to remember that the entire universe, with one trifling exception, is composed of others."
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I think ultimately this decision will have two important factors. I mean what is your employer / local market using? What do you like?
John
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I like Qt, hate the price. :)
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Use VCF or wxWidgets then They are free.
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Web dev wins by a nose, simply by managing to stay slightly less insane than Win32/WinForms. Frankly though, i much prefer dev that doesn't consist primarily of working around bad design decisions in the platform.
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You're right. These facts that you've laid out totally contradict the wild ramblings that I pulled off the back of cornflakes packets.
Shog9 wrote:
i much prefer dev that doesn't consist primarily of working around bad design decisions in the platform
well then how would you spend all that extra time...
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I like Qt, hate the price. :)
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb) John Andrew Holmes "It is well to remember that the entire universe, with one trifling exception, is composed of others."
Good thing I am doing open source (government funded medical research) programming so its free for us. Being a long time MFC programmer who has written 500K lines of MFC I am amazed on how much better Qt is than MFC. Specifically its much better designed and does not suffer from a lot of bad decisions that were made decades ago. Also it comes with tons of functionality that I had to create for myself when using MFC (reason for many of those 500K lines...)
John
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Good thing I am doing open source (government funded medical research) programming so its free for us. Being a long time MFC programmer who has written 500K lines of MFC I am amazed on how much better Qt is than MFC. Specifically its much better designed and does not suffer from a lot of bad decisions that were made decades ago. Also it comes with tons of functionality that I had to create for myself when using MFC (reason for many of those 500K lines...)
John
we bought it at work, I just can't afford to at home. :-D
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb) John Andrew Holmes "It is well to remember that the entire universe, with one trifling exception, is composed of others."
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Web dev wins by a nose, simply by managing to stay slightly less insane than Win32/WinForms. Frankly though, i much prefer dev that doesn't consist primarily of working around bad design decisions in the platform.
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You're right. These facts that you've laid out totally contradict the wild ramblings that I pulled off the back of cornflakes packets.
Shog9 wrote:
Web dev wins by a nose
Shog9 wrote:
i much prefer dev that doesn't consist primarily of working around bad design decisions in the platform
Aren't they somewhat of a contradictory statements.
Proud to be a CPHog user
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we bought it at work, I just can't afford to at home. :-D
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb) John Andrew Holmes "It is well to remember that the entire universe, with one trifling exception, is composed of others."
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I just can't afford to at home.
Maybe this is a blessing. I mean not being able to bring the work home. For me this was one of my motivations (years ago) for installing linux at home (so I could not use Visual Studio).
John
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meenakumar wrote:
Which one you prefer
Whatever my clients will pay me to do. :)
Kevin
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windows, VB
My Blog: http://cynicalclots.blogspot.com
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Web dev wins by a nose, simply by managing to stay slightly less insane than Win32/WinForms. Frankly though, i much prefer dev that doesn't consist primarily of working around bad design decisions in the platform.
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You're right. These facts that you've laid out totally contradict the wild ramblings that I pulled off the back of cornflakes packets.
Shog9 wrote:
Frankly though, i much prefer dev that doesn't consist primarily of working around bad design decisions in the platform.
me too... and that's why my favorite of all my products are the graphics toolkits - nothing but pointers, loops, and wide-open buffers.
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El Corazon wrote:
I just can't afford to at home.
Maybe this is a blessing. I mean not being able to bring the work home. For me this was one of my motivations (years ago) for installing linux at home (so I could not use Visual Studio).
John
John M. Drescher wrote:
I mean not being able to bring the work home.
that doesn't stop me. I vm'd my entire work PC, so Intel compiler, MS IDE, Qt, et al). No I meant my work business at home has to take different directions. Which is not a bad thing, it makes it easier to keep the two separate. :)
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb) John Andrew Holmes "It is well to remember that the entire universe, with one trifling exception, is composed of others."
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Use VCF or wxWidgets then They are free.
:..::. Douglas H. Troy ::..
Bad Astronomy |VCF|wxWidgets|WTLI do. :)
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb) John Andrew Holmes "It is well to remember that the entire universe, with one trifling exception, is composed of others."
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meenakumar wrote:
Which one you prefer
Whatever my clients will pay me to do. :)
Kevin
Kevin McFarlane wrote:
Whatever my clients will pay me to do.
Exactly why I do C++, C# and others. :) I am not greedy, but I don't turn away good money. Bad money, well, I can turn away. I haven't met bad money yet, but I just wanted to clarify. :-D
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb) John Andrew Holmes "It is well to remember that the entire universe, with one trifling exception, is composed of others."