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Shog9 wrote:
Frankly though, i much prefer dev that doesn't consist primarily of working around bad design decisions in the platform.
me too... and that's why my favorite of all my products are the graphics toolkits - nothing but pointers, loops, and wide-open buffers.
Chris Losinger wrote:
pointers, loops, and wide-open buffers.
Enough with the pillow talk, Chris. This is a family forum. :-\
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You're right. These facts that you've laid out totally contradict the wild ramblings that I pulled off the back of cornflakes packets.
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meenakumar wrote:
Which one you prefer, like or feel more challenging..
I probably prefer web development, due to the (slightly) better documentation offered, but I have occasions with both where I want to throw myself out of a third storey window..
meenakumar wrote:
does c++ has scope still?
I still code with it, although I guess some would argue that you can get more from something like C# more easily as its a higher-level language, but I'm not particularly a fan of .NET anyway. Regards, --Perspx
Don't trust a computer you can't throw out a window
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Kevin McFarlane wrote:
Whatever my clients will pay me to do.
Exactly why I do C++, C# and others. :) I am not greedy, but I don't turn away good money. Bad money, well, I can turn away. I haven't met bad money yet, but I just wanted to clarify. :-D
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Let me introduce you then. "I'll give you $75 to make a site like ebay only better" El Corazon, this is bad money. Bad Money, El Corazon. :laugh:
Today's lesson is brought to you by the word "niggardly". Remember kids, don't attribute to racism what can be explained by Scandinavian language roots. -- Robert Royall
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John M. Drescher wrote:
I mean not being able to bring the work home.
that doesn't stop me. I vm'd my entire work PC, so Intel compiler, MS IDE, Qt, et al). No I meant my work business at home has to take different directions. Which is not a bad thing, it makes it easier to keep the two separate. :)
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El Corazon wrote:
No I meant my work business at home has to take different directions.
Ahh. No time for that..
John
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Good thing I am doing open source (government funded medical research) programming so its free for us. Being a long time MFC programmer who has written 500K lines of MFC I am amazed on how much better Qt is than MFC. Specifically its much better designed and does not suffer from a lot of bad decisions that were made decades ago. Also it comes with tons of functionality that I had to create for myself when using MFC (reason for many of those 500K lines...)
John
I've always read articles and posts about how great Qt is compared to MFC. Having suffered a lot from MFC's macros and ATL's templates (I mean, I like templates, but don't take it to the extreme!), I've always told myself I would find the time to learn Qt, but, damn, time is so scarce... To be honest, perhaps I haven't tried yet because I'm afraid of the learning curve. I'm quite proficient in MFC (not great, just good enough to do what I need to), I wonder how much it will take me to be able to do with Qt what I currently do with MFC (computer graphics and heavy use of the Doc/View architecture, mainly).
If you can play The Dance of Eternity (Dream Theater), then we shall make a band.
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Your going to start a language war :rolleyes: I'll say go dotNet :badger:
Harvey Saayman - South Africa Junior Developer .Net, C#, SQL
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Your going to start a language war
Cobol.net! ;P ;P ;P
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb) John Andrew Holmes "It is well to remember that the entire universe, with one trifling exception, is composed of others."
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I've always read articles and posts about how great Qt is compared to MFC. Having suffered a lot from MFC's macros and ATL's templates (I mean, I like templates, but don't take it to the extreme!), I've always told myself I would find the time to learn Qt, but, damn, time is so scarce... To be honest, perhaps I haven't tried yet because I'm afraid of the learning curve. I'm quite proficient in MFC (not great, just good enough to do what I need to), I wonder how much it will take me to be able to do with Qt what I currently do with MFC (computer graphics and heavy use of the Doc/View architecture, mainly).
If you can play The Dance of Eternity (Dream Theater), then we shall make a band.
leonej_dt wrote:
To be honest, perhaps I haven't tried yet because I'm afraid of the learning curve. I'm quite proficient in MFC (not great, just good enough to do what I need to), I wonder how much it will take me to be able to do with Qt what I currently do with MFC (computer graphics and heavy use of the Doc/View architecture, mainly).
I believe learning Qt will not be totally foreign for MFC programmers. There are a lot of things that are the same or similar. With that said, signals and slots are completely different than windows event model and there is no doc view. Although I added my own template driven doc/view in a few hours to a single app. Its far from complete but it does what I need at the moment..
John
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Harvey Saayman wrote:
Your going to start a language war
Cobol.net! ;P ;P ;P
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You get a 3 vote. It should be 1 for mentioning that which shall not be named, but I'm in a good mood :)
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Let me introduce you then. "I'll give you $75 to make a site like ebay only better" El Corazon, this is bad money. Bad Money, El Corazon. :laugh:
Today's lesson is brought to you by the word "niggardly". Remember kids, don't attribute to racism what can be explained by Scandinavian language roots. -- Robert Royall
dan neely wrote:
"I'll give you $75 to make a site like ebay only better"
No. :-D how did I do?
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb) John Andrew Holmes "It is well to remember that the entire universe, with one trifling exception, is composed of others."
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I prefer Windows - more control over things, richer user interface, don't have to deal with multiple browsers. Depends on the requirements though.
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You get a 3 vote. It should be 1 for mentioning that which shall not be named, but I'm in a good mood :)
Bar fomos edo pariyart gedeem, agreo eo dranem abal edyero eyrem kalm kareore
MidwestLimey wrote:
but I'm in a good mood
good thing I didn't catch you on your bad-side... is there a -3 vote? :-D
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Harvey Saayman wrote:
Your going to start a language war
Cobol.net! ;P ;P ;P
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Yuck!! :pukes:
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Yuck!! :pukes:
Harvey Saayman - South Africa Junior Developer .Net, C#, SQL
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Yuck!! :pukes:
you're the one who just said .net that leaves it wiiiiiide open!
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb) John Andrew Holmes "It is well to remember that the entire universe, with one trifling exception, is composed of others."
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I like Qt, hate the price. :)
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb) John Andrew Holmes "It is well to remember that the entire universe, with one trifling exception, is composed of others."
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Harvey Saayman wrote:
Your going to start a language war
Cobol.net! ;P ;P ;P
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb) John Andrew Holmes "It is well to remember that the entire universe, with one trifling exception, is composed of others."
Or A# :D Ada for .NET, of course.
Stupidity is an International Association - Enrique Jardiel Poncela Die deutsche Sprache sollte sanft und ehrfurchtsvoll zu den toten Sprachen abgelegt werden, denn nur die Toten haben die Zeit, diese Sprache zu lernen. - Mark Twain
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Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:
Well, if she's a Qt, she's a Qt.
but what about her personality? ;P
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Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:
Well, if she's a Qt, she's a Qt.
but what about her personality? ;P
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb) John Andrew Holmes "It is well to remember that the entire universe, with one trifling exception, is composed of others."
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Windows development is the law! And nothing will ever replace C++ as my favorite language.
To those who understand, I extend my hand. To the doubtful I demand: Take me as I am. Not under your command, I know where I stand. I won't change to fit yout plan. Take me as I am.
leonej_dt wrote:
And nothing will ever replace C++ as my favorite language.
I felt the same way until I started working in Java. Some years later I moved to a .NET shop, and fell in love with C# (and the .NET framwork). Who knows what's next? :-D /ravi
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dan neely wrote:
"I'll give you $75 to make a site like ebay only better"
No. :-D how did I do?
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb) John Andrew Holmes "It is well to remember that the entire universe, with one trifling exception, is composed of others."
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You're unlikely to become the next rentacoder success story. :rolleyes:
Today's lesson is brought to you by the word "niggardly". Remember kids, don't attribute to racism what can be explained by Scandinavian language roots. -- Robert Royall
next or first? ;P
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb) John Andrew Holmes "It is well to remember that the entire universe, with one trifling exception, is composed of others."