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  • M Marc Clifton

    90% group similar taskbar buttons? Humph. I'm clearly in the 10%. Probably the .0001%. Marc

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    Nagy Vilmos
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    I'm in the 4.97% who auto hide the task bar. I must admit that I open various bits in the same order so that they appear where I want them. If I accidently close one, I'll then close all the subsequent and re-open so the task bar is in the order I like.


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      I'm in the 4.97% who auto hide the task bar. I must admit that I open various bits in the same order so that they appear where I want them. If I accidently close one, I'll then close all the subsequent and re-open so the task bar is in the order I like.


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      Oh my god you can't rearange the taskbar. I never knew, I always assumed you could.

      My current favourite word is: Nipple!

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        Wht's UAC?

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        Nagaraj Muthuchamy wrote:

        Wht's UAC?

        User Aggravation Conspiracy

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        • N Nagy Vilmos

          I'm in the 4.97% who auto hide the task bar. I must admit that I open various bits in the same order so that they appear where I want them. If I accidently close one, I'll then close all the subsequent and re-open so the task bar is in the order I like.


          Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done.

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          williamnw wrote:

          I must admit that I open various bits in the same order so that they appear where I want them. If I accidently close one, I'll then close all the subsequent and re-open so the task bar is in the order I like.

          I used to do this. I'm a bit OCD about it, I guess. Then I got Taskbar Shuffle: http://www.freewebs.com/nerdcave/taskbarshuffle.htm[^] It's freeware that lets you drag the taskbar buttons around and put them where you want them. It saves me a lot of time!

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          • N Nagy Vilmos

            I'm in the 4.97% who auto hide the task bar. I must admit that I open various bits in the same order so that they appear where I want them. If I accidently close one, I'll then close all the subsequent and re-open so the task bar is in the order I like.


            Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done.

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            williamnw wrote:

            I must admit that I open various bits in the same order so that they appear where I want them. If I accidently close one, I'll then close all the subsequent and re-open so the task bar is in the order I like.

            And I thought I was alone in this. :laugh:

            A human being is part of the whole called by us universe, a part limited in time and space. We experience ourselves, our thoughts and feelings as something separate from the rest. A kind of optical delusion of consciousness. This delusion is a kind of prison for us, restricting us to our personal desires and to affection for a few persons nearest to us. Our task must be to free ourselves from the prison by widening our circle of compassion to embrace all living creatures and the whole of nature in its beauty… The true value of a human being is determined primarily by the measure and the sense in which they have obtained liberation from the self. … We shall require a substantially new manner of thinking if humanity is to survive. (Albert Einstein, 1, 1954)

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            • realJSOPR realJSOP

              http://blogs.msdn.com/e7/default.aspx[^] In all of their statistics gathering efforts, they never asked how many people turn off the UAC...

              "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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              People keep bitching about the UAC in Vista, but nobody complains that they have to sudo every command in Ubuntu. It's basically the same thing, but why the different attitude?

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                Wht's UAC?

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                • N Nagy Vilmos

                  I'm in the 4.97% who auto hide the task bar. I must admit that I open various bits in the same order so that they appear where I want them. If I accidently close one, I'll then close all the subsequent and re-open so the task bar is in the order I like.


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                  Nicholas Butler
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                  williamnw wrote:

                  I must admit that I open various bits in the same order so that they appear where I want them. If I accidently close one, I'll then close all the subsequent and re-open so the task bar is in the order I like.

                  There is of course A tool to order the window buttons in your taskbar[^] here on CP :-D I've fixed the code to work on Vista, but I haven't updated the article. If there's any interest, I could update it... Nick

                  ---------------------------------- Be excellent to each other :)

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                  • A Anthony Mushrow

                    Oh my god you can't rearange the taskbar. I never knew, I always assumed you could.

                    My current favourite word is: Nipple!

                    -SK Genius

                    Game Programming articles start -here[^]-

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                    I've got a free program called Taskbar Shuffle installed that lets you drag and drop the taskbar buttons to a new location.

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                    • B blackjack2150

                      People keep bitching about the UAC in Vista, but nobody complains that they have to sudo every command in Ubuntu. It's basically the same thing, but why the different attitude?

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                      blackjack2150 wrote:

                      People keep bitching about the UAC in Vista, but nobody complains that they have to sudo every command in Ubuntu. It's basically the same thing, but why the different attitude?

                      Cause Mark Shuttleworth makes his millions and then goes for a trip as the first tourist in space. Bill Gates makes his billions and hires a fat sweaty twat like Ballmer. Ubuntu - cool like Mark, Vista - fat sweaty monkey like Ballmer.

                      Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004

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                      • D Dave Parker

                        I've got a free program called Taskbar Shuffle installed that lets you drag and drop the taskbar buttons to a new location.

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                        I use RocketDock, and hide the taskbar. My desktop at home is a blank screen - no icons, no nothing.

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                          People keep bitching about the UAC in Vista, but nobody complains that they have to sudo every command in Ubuntu. It's basically the same thing, but why the different attitude?

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                          That's probably because you don't have to sudo unless you're installing something via the command line or using an admin tool.

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                            That's probably because you don't have to sudo unless you're installing something via the command line or using an admin tool.

                            "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                            "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                            Which is probably because there isn't a significant fraction of *nix devs who've spent the last decade writing apps on the assumption that every single user is an admin. :mad:

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                            • realJSOPR realJSOP

                              I use RocketDock, and hide the taskbar. My desktop at home is a blank screen - no icons, no nothing.

                              "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                              "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                              Rajesh R Subramanian
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                              John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                              I use RocketDock, and hide the taskbar.

                              Well, that's an excellent utility. It is not the eye-candy that I'm concerned about, but it reduces the clutter, I can keep my quick launch there, I can move, resize it as I'd like. And I remember you were the one who suggested it. I'm using it too with my taskbar hidden.

                              Many are stubborn in pursuit of the path they have chosen, few in pursuit of the goal - Friedrich Nietzsche .·´¯`·->Rajesh<-·´¯`·. [Microsoft MVP - Visual C++]

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                              • realJSOPR realJSOP

                                http://blogs.msdn.com/e7/default.aspx[^] In all of their statistics gathering efforts, they never asked how many people turn off the UAC...

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                                Lost User
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                                UAC isnt active on Win7 yet.

                                Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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                                • realJSOPR realJSOP

                                  That's probably because you don't have to sudo unless you're installing something via the command line or using an admin tool.

                                  "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                                  "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                                  blackjack2150
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                                  In Ubuntu I have to provide password when I'm installing using the UI wizard, when I'm modifying video/network settings and many other. All this using the UI and not the terminal.

                                  modified on Friday, September 26, 2008 9:08 AM

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                                  • B blackjack2150

                                    People keep bitching about the UAC in Vista, but nobody complains that they have to sudo every command in Ubuntu. It's basically the same thing, but why the different attitude?

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                                    There is a big difference though. You use sudo to run a command and you will be prompted for the admin password. You enter the admin password and that command runs to completion without any os prompting about any further security implications. With UAC this is not the case even after allowing an action a second later you will be asked to allow more actions on the same process. I know this is more secure but it is also much more annoying. Here is a case in point that baffled me: I needed to install putty on a vista laptop from my network at work. Putty does not have an installer so I opened Program Files, created a folder and then wanted to copy and paste the executable there. Vista first prompted me with a Pretty Vista dialog explaining the security implications of this and asked me if I wanted to proceed. I clicked yes and then 1 second later I got the same exact dialog but this time it was XP style instead of vista. I answered yes to that again. Then a second later I got told I could not copy an executable across a network to the program files folder. How annoying. I ended up saving the darn file on the desktop and then copying it from the desktop to the program files folder and I believe this worked without any prompts.

                                    John

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                                    • M Marc Clifton

                                      90% group similar taskbar buttons? Humph. I'm clearly in the 10%. Probably the .0001%. Marc

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                                      Dave Kreskowiak
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                                      Marc Clifton wrote:

                                      90% group similar taskbar buttons? Humph. I'm clearly in the 10%. Probably the .0001%.

                                      .0001%?? What, do you want multiple buttons for a single window? ;)

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                                      • N Nagaraj Muthuchamy

                                        Wht's UAC?

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                                        You've been living in a cave for the last 2 years, haven't you?

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                                          http://blogs.msdn.com/e7/default.aspx[^] In all of their statistics gathering efforts, they never asked how many people turn off the UAC...

                                          "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                                          "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                                          MS don't care how many users turn UAC off. UAC is Microsoft's way of getting the point across to developers that you can't assume all users are admins. UAC has focused the attention of the software community into developing software that runs as non-admin. That was MS's goal. Future versions of UAC will be different. Possibly stricter, possible unable to be disabled, but it won't matter because by then, software writers will have taken heed and written software that doesn't require admin.

                                          Simon

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