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  • J Jonathan C Dickinson

    Vista! Yay! There is nothing like a good blue screen of death on TV these days!!!

    He who asks a question is a fool for five minutes. He who does not ask a question remains a fool forever. [Chineese Proverb] Jonathan C Dickinson (C# Software Engineer)

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    El Corazon
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    Jonathan C Dickinson wrote:

    Vista! Yay! There is nothing like a good blue screen of death on TV these days!!!

    I still see BSoD on XP monthly, I haven't on Vista in ages now. It all depends on what you do, and if you avoid updating. SP1 fixed most of the problems, not that people cared.... most of the BSoD complaints I hear are repeated from RC1 and RC2. :)

    _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb) John Andrew Holmes "It is well to remember that the entire universe, with one trifling exception, is composed of others."

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    • M Marc Clifton

      Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote:

      If your task can easily be broken up into independently executing processes, it's definitely worth a shot.

      It definitely can, now that I've made the necessary code changes. The problem is getting machines available. I could throw 8 cores at it distributed over 4 computers, but I'm not sure my client actually has those resources. I mean, they have thousands of computers, but it's all a very secure environment and each person only has one workstation (the last time I visited, granted, a few years ago). Getting someone in the cubicle next to you to donate their machine (even if only some % of CPU cycles) I think would be difficult. But I'll ask. :) Marc

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      Anna Jayne Metcalfe
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      Sounds like a plan. If all else fails, two or three new quad core machines are also likely to be cheaper to procure than a single 8 core system. Personally, when you can buy a 16 core system for £300 (the current UK price point for low-end quads) I'll be interested again....until then dual core machines are OK, and quads nothing to get excited about. :rolleyes:

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        Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote:

        If your task can easily be broken up into independently executing processes, it's definitely worth a shot.

        It definitely can, now that I've made the necessary code changes. The problem is getting machines available. I could throw 8 cores at it distributed over 4 computers, but I'm not sure my client actually has those resources. I mean, they have thousands of computers, but it's all a very secure environment and each person only has one workstation (the last time I visited, granted, a few years ago). Getting someone in the cubicle next to you to donate their machine (even if only some % of CPU cycles) I think would be difficult. But I'll ask. :) Marc

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        Rocky Moore
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        Marc Clifton wrote:

        Getting someone in the cubicle next to you to donate their machine (even if only some % of CPU cycles)

        Well, if they have thousands of computers, there surely will be a few of them idle to use the CPU time. If you added in the ability to only use machines that are under a certain level of CPU load, users would probably never know there machine was used. For example, you could distribute the load over the machines at say 25% CPU load. If they have thousands abailable, they could have supercomputer power available with hardware they already have. Of course, it is easier to just by an exapensive system and let it do the work if there will never be a need for something more powerful.

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        • M Marc Clifton

          Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:

          Since all such discussions will eventually mention it let me be the first, have you consider a cray?

          Heh. Well, there is a budget! Marc

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          Have you considered a cloud model, with many low-cost machines? At least that could be expanded at lower cost, and the number of processors would not be limited. Gigabit Ethernet plus Core2 Quad machines as the standard cloud component might cinch the deal...also, technologies like Crossfire allow up to 8 GPUs on a bus to act in concert (though significant software challenges exist with this approach)...the off-the-shelf answer is a box with two Intel quad-core Xeons (which, coincidentally, the newest Cray box contains, if I remember the announcement correctly).

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          • E El Corazon

            Marc Clifton wrote:

            Desktop would be preferable. This isn't really for a server, rather a high powered number crunching workstation.

            Did you consider Tesla[^] or reject it for the difficulties of programming?

            _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb) John Andrew Holmes "It is well to remember that the entire universe, with one trifling exception, is composed of others."

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            El Corazon wrote:

            Marc Clifton wrote: Desktop would be preferable. This isn't really for a server, rather a high powered number crunching workstation. Did you consider Tesla[^] or reject it for the difficulties of programming?

            I'd forgotten about this one! But does it run Windows? LOL who cares, as long as it runs!

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              El Corazon wrote:

              Marc Clifton wrote: Desktop would be preferable. This isn't really for a server, rather a high powered number crunching workstation. Did you consider Tesla[^] or reject it for the difficulties of programming?

              I'd forgotten about this one! But does it run Windows? LOL who cares, as long as it runs!

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              I don't remember seeing CUDA for anything other than Windows. Although as long as the CUDA integration is done OS is less relavant. still I think it is still only Windows.

              _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb) John Andrew Holmes "It is well to remember that the entire universe, with one trifling exception, is composed of others."

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                I don't remember seeing CUDA for anything other than Windows. Although as long as the CUDA integration is done OS is less relavant. still I think it is still only Windows.

                _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb) John Andrew Holmes "It is well to remember that the entire universe, with one trifling exception, is composed of others."

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                El Corazon wrote:

                I don't remember seeing CUDA for anything other than Windows. Although as long as the CUDA integration is done OS is less relavant. still I think it is still only Windows

                The CUDA site at NVIDIA lists XP (32 and 64), Vista (32 and 64), Linux (32 and 64), and Mac OS as target systems Download CUDA[^]

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                  El Corazon wrote:

                  I don't remember seeing CUDA for anything other than Windows. Although as long as the CUDA integration is done OS is less relavant. still I think it is still only Windows

                  The CUDA site at NVIDIA lists XP (32 and 64), Vista (32 and 64), Linux (32 and 64), and Mac OS as target systems Download CUDA[^]

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                  then it is largely os agnostic. it integrates at the compiler/project level C for CUDA and C++ for main compiler.

                  _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb) John Andrew Holmes "It is well to remember that the entire universe, with one trifling exception, is composed of others."

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                    then it is largely os agnostic. it integrates at the compiler/project level C for CUDA and C++ for main compiler.

                    _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb) John Andrew Holmes "It is well to remember that the entire universe, with one trifling exception, is composed of others."

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                    cpkilekofp
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                    As usual, you strike at "the heart" of the matter ;-)

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                    • C cpkilekofp

                      As usual, you strike at "the heart" of the matter ;-)

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                      El Corazon
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                      at least my brother Sin Corazon isn't here!

                      _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb) John Andrew Holmes "It is well to remember that the entire universe, with one trifling exception, is composed of others."

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