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Is Quality of indian software development is reducing day by day?

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    anish_bhagwat80
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    I heard from my company and from my some of friends as while biding for a project you will get 7 quotation from China along with single quotation from India.Because if you wont get project it directly goes to China. No doubt China recover lot in software. But my questions are Is this due to China bids with very low rate? or quality of Indian development is reduced? or Is this due to Indian people not able to follow dead line? Your suggestions and opinions are inevitable... Thanks, Anish Bhagwat

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      I heard from my company and from my some of friends as while biding for a project you will get 7 quotation from China along with single quotation from India.Because if you wont get project it directly goes to China. No doubt China recover lot in software. But my questions are Is this due to China bids with very low rate? or quality of Indian development is reduced? or Is this due to Indian people not able to follow dead line? Your suggestions and opinions are inevitable... Thanks, Anish Bhagwat

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      Christian Graus
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      Could Indian software get any worse ? I am sure China is just as bad, but cheaper.

      Christian Graus No longer a Microsoft MVP, but still happy to answer your questions.

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        I heard from my company and from my some of friends as while biding for a project you will get 7 quotation from China along with single quotation from India.Because if you wont get project it directly goes to China. No doubt China recover lot in software. But my questions are Is this due to China bids with very low rate? or quality of Indian development is reduced? or Is this due to Indian people not able to follow dead line? Your suggestions and opinions are inevitable... Thanks, Anish Bhagwat

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        Duncan Edwards Jones
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        In my (limited) experience, China is offering better quality staff and they have better staff retention rates so offer a more stable outsourcing solution. Costs are approximately the same.

        '--8<------------------------ Ex Datis: Duncan Jones Merrion Computing Ltd

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        • C Christian Graus

          Could Indian software get any worse ? I am sure China is just as bad, but cheaper.

          Christian Graus No longer a Microsoft MVP, but still happy to answer your questions.

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          Harvey Saayman
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          Christian Graus wrote:

          China is just as bad

          You have no fucking idea dude.. and when you try to get them to explain methods & classes(In an SDK i work with) that aren't in their documentation, then they "no speak engwish velly goot"

          Harvey Saayman - South Africa Junior Developer .Net, C#, SQL you.suck = (you.Passion != Programming & you.Occupation == jobTitles.Programmer) 1000100 1101111 1100101 1110011 100000 1110100 1101000 1101001 1110011 100000 1101101 1100101 1100001 1101110 100000 1101001 1101101 100000 1100001 100000 1100111 1100101 1100101 1101011 111111

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            Christian Graus wrote:

            China is just as bad

            You have no fucking idea dude.. and when you try to get them to explain methods & classes(In an SDK i work with) that aren't in their documentation, then they "no speak engwish velly goot"

            Harvey Saayman - South Africa Junior Developer .Net, C#, SQL you.suck = (you.Passion != Programming & you.Occupation == jobTitles.Programmer) 1000100 1101111 1100101 1110011 100000 1110100 1101000 1101001 1110011 100000 1101101 1100101 1100001 1101110 100000 1101001 1101101 100000 1100001 100000 1100111 1100101 1100101 1101011 111111

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            realJSOP
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            They work for elephant teeth and shiny rocks - what do you expect? (I 5'd you to counteract the "1" you got.)

            "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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            "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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            • C Christian Graus

              Could Indian software get any worse ? I am sure China is just as bad, but cheaper.

              Christian Graus No longer a Microsoft MVP, but still happy to answer your questions.

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              anish_bhagwat80
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              NO didnt get any directly but as discussion and advertise from China its look.

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              • A anish_bhagwat80

                NO didnt get any directly but as discussion and advertise from China its look.

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                realJSOP
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                anish_bhagwat80 wrote:

                NO didnt get any directly but as discussion and advertise from China its look.

                WTF are you talking about?

                "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                  They work for elephant teeth and shiny rocks - what do you expect? (I 5'd you to counteract the "1" you got.)

                  "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                  -----
                  "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                  Harvey Saayman
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                  John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                  They work for elephant teeth and shiny rocks - what do you expect?

                  I suppose... :~

                  John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                  (I 5'd you to counteract the "1" you got.)

                  Thanks

                  Harvey Saayman - South Africa Junior Developer .Net, C#, SQL you.suck = (you.Passion != Programming & you.Occupation == jobTitles.Programmer) 1000100 1101111 1100101 1110011 100000 1110100 1101000 1101001 1110011 100000 1101101 1100101 1100001 1101110 100000 1101001 1101101 100000 1100001 100000 1100111 1100101 1100101 1101011 111111

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                    Christian Graus wrote:

                    China is just as bad

                    You have no fucking idea dude.. and when you try to get them to explain methods & classes(In an SDK i work with) that aren't in their documentation, then they "no speak engwish velly goot"

                    Harvey Saayman - South Africa Junior Developer .Net, C#, SQL you.suck = (you.Passion != Programming & you.Occupation == jobTitles.Programmer) 1000100 1101111 1100101 1110011 100000 1110100 1101000 1101001 1110011 100000 1101101 1100101 1100001 1101110 100000 1101001 1101101 100000 1100001 100000 1100111 1100101 1100101 1101011 111111

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                    Christian Graus
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                    I've been there and done it, I know exactly what you're talking about.

                    Christian Graus No longer a Microsoft MVP, but still happy to answer your questions.

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                    • A anish_bhagwat80

                      NO didnt get any directly but as discussion and advertise from China its look.

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                      Christian Graus
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                      This reply, and your original post, highlight the troubles when trying to communicate with developers in India.

                      Christian Graus No longer a Microsoft MVP, but still happy to answer your questions.

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                      • A anish_bhagwat80

                        I heard from my company and from my some of friends as while biding for a project you will get 7 quotation from China along with single quotation from India.Because if you wont get project it directly goes to China. No doubt China recover lot in software. But my questions are Is this due to China bids with very low rate? or quality of Indian development is reduced? or Is this due to Indian people not able to follow dead line? Your suggestions and opinions are inevitable... Thanks, Anish Bhagwat

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                        Zhat
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                        Maybe it to have do your you with we written code being youse like wriiting question these. Plus Chinaese learned use to URGENTZ in they there code questions.

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                          Maybe it to have do your you with we written code being youse like wriiting question these. Plus Chinaese learned use to URGENTZ in they there code questions.

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                          Pawel Krakowiak
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                          This is good idea answer like asking question. ;)

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                            Maybe it to have do your you with we written code being youse like wriiting question these. Plus Chinaese learned use to URGENTZ in they there code questions.

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                            Gavin Taylor
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                            :laugh:

                            Gavin Taylor

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                              Christian Graus wrote:

                              China is just as bad

                              You have no fucking idea dude.. and when you try to get them to explain methods & classes(In an SDK i work with) that aren't in their documentation, then they "no speak engwish velly goot"

                              Harvey Saayman - South Africa Junior Developer .Net, C#, SQL you.suck = (you.Passion != Programming & you.Occupation == jobTitles.Programmer) 1000100 1101111 1100101 1110011 100000 1110100 1101000 1101001 1110011 100000 1101101 1100101 1100001 1101110 100000 1101001 1101101 100000 1100001 100000 1100111 1100101 1100101 1101011 111111

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                              Pete OHanlon
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                              Sorry Harvey - apparently I voted you 1. I've changed it to the 5 I meant to vote.

                              Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.

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                                NO didnt get any directly but as discussion and advertise from China its look.

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                                Michael Schubert
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                                Is this Babelfish gibberish?

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                                • C Christian Graus

                                  This reply, and your original post, highlight the troubles when trying to communicate with developers in India.

                                  Christian Graus No longer a Microsoft MVP, but still happy to answer your questions.

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                                  anish_bhagwat80
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                                  See i am not in the mood of war i want to know just opinions of world. If reducing of quality is a fact it will help me to improve and other Indians too with the help of this discussion. And about communication issue i am 100 % sure India is better than China at this moment. The reasons might be internal issue.

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                                    I heard from my company and from my some of friends as while biding for a project you will get 7 quotation from China along with single quotation from India.Because if you wont get project it directly goes to China. No doubt China recover lot in software. But my questions are Is this due to China bids with very low rate? or quality of Indian development is reduced? or Is this due to Indian people not able to follow dead line? Your suggestions and opinions are inevitable... Thanks, Anish Bhagwat

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                                    rastaVnuce
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                                    Have you ever considered outsorcing to Macedonia? I've worked on a couple of outsorcing projects which had extreme customer satisfaction as a result. Think about it, and when you do contact me ;)

                                    To hell with circumstances; I create opportunities.

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                                    • C Christian Graus

                                      This reply, and your original post, highlight the troubles when trying to communicate with developers in India.

                                      Christian Graus No longer a Microsoft MVP, but still happy to answer your questions.

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                                      Lost User
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                                      What about Romanian programmers? Just curious... and a bit nosy. :D :)

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                                      • A anish_bhagwat80

                                        See i am not in the mood of war i want to know just opinions of world. If reducing of quality is a fact it will help me to improve and other Indians too with the help of this discussion. And about communication issue i am 100 % sure India is better than China at this moment. The reasons might be internal issue.

                                        modified on Thursday, October 2, 2008 8:29 AM

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                                        Oakman
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                                        anish_bhagwat80 wrote:

                                        And about communication issue i am 100 % sure India is better than Chaina at this moment.

                                        When we're talking levels of unacceptability, it doesn't matter much. Crap is crap. My God, you don't even spell China correctly - how the hell is someone supposed to understand your documentation?

                                        Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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                                        • A anish_bhagwat80

                                          See i am not in the mood of war i want to know just opinions of world. If reducing of quality is a fact it will help me to improve and other Indians too with the help of this discussion. And about communication issue i am 100 % sure India is better than China at this moment. The reasons might be internal issue.

                                          modified on Thursday, October 2, 2008 8:29 AM

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                                          Baconbutty
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                                          Assembling a series of sentences that neither make sense on their own or as a group does not promote good feelings about Indian communication.

                                          I still remember having to write your own code in FORTRAN rather than be a cut and paste merchant being pampered by colour coded Intellisense - ahh proper programming - those were the days :)

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