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    Bassam Abdul Baki
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    Anyone aware of this[^]?


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      Anyone aware of this[^]?


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      73Zeppelin
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      Nope. But now that I am I have this unexplained urge to burn and smash stuff and decry Western free speech. Thanks for bringing it to my attention.

      “It is better to fail in originality than to succeed in imitation.”

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        Nope. But now that I am I have this unexplained urge to burn and smash stuff and decry Western free speech. Thanks for bringing it to my attention.

        “It is better to fail in originality than to succeed in imitation.”

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        Bassam Abdul Baki
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        If this is covered by Freedom of Speech, then anybody should be able to do it against anybody.


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          If this is covered by Freedom of Speech, then anybody should be able to do it against anybody.


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          Exactly.

          “It is better to fail in originality than to succeed in imitation.”

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          • B Bassam Abdul Baki

            Anyone aware of this[^]?


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            I wasn't, but I am immediately going to write my congressman and ask him why the DVD wasn't sent by him to all his constituents. I hate to interject reality into your outrage, but the article reports as fact that a mosque was "gassed" as a result of the DVD being distributed in Dayton. In strict fact a 10 year old girl claimed that somebody sprayed something through a window. Exhaustive tests found no residue of any substance and neither the police nor the mosque are calling this a hate crime.

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              I wasn't, but I am immediately going to write my congressman and ask him why the DVD wasn't sent by him to all his constituents. I hate to interject reality into your outrage, but the article reports as fact that a mosque was "gassed" as a result of the DVD being distributed in Dayton. In strict fact a 10 year old girl claimed that somebody sprayed something through a window. Exhaustive tests found no residue of any substance and neither the police nor the mosque are calling this a hate crime.

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              Bassam Abdul Baki
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              Two wrongs don't make a right, it just propagates one.


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              • 7 73Zeppelin

                Exactly.

                “It is better to fail in originality than to succeed in imitation.”

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                Bassam Abdul Baki
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                Ha!


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                  Two wrongs don't make a right, it just propagates one.


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                  Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:

                  Two wrongs don't make a right,

                  So there were these two asian guys named Wong and a girl named Sally Wright. . .

                  Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:

                  it just propagates one

                  I didn't know you were into horticulture. In other words, when the fuck did Muslims adopt the idea of turning the other cheek? No, not those cheeks!

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                    Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:

                    Two wrongs don't make a right,

                    So there were these two asian guys named Wong and a girl named Sally Wright. . .

                    Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:

                    it just propagates one

                    I didn't know you were into horticulture. In other words, when the fuck did Muslims adopt the idea of turning the other cheek? No, not those cheeks!

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                    Oakman wrote:

                    So there were these two asian guys named Wong and a girl named Sally Wright. . .

                    Go on, I'm listening.

                    Oakman wrote:

                    I didn't know you were into horticulture.

                    I meant right in the sense of right to do something.

                    Oakman wrote:

                    In other words, when the f*** did Muslims adopt the idea of turning the other cheek?

                    Never said they did. Again, are we talking about all of them now? Cause it seems to me that those who aren't up in arms against others are actually turning a cheek.

                    Oakman wrote:

                    No, not those cheeks!

                    Those cheeks. Where's the slap icon? Good movie.


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                    • B Bassam Abdul Baki

                      Two wrongs don't make a right, it just propagates one.


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                      There is only one wrong here: false report of a "hate crime". The rest is a freedom of speech issue - please note that you are not required to agree with the speech, but you are not entitled to prohibit it.

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                        Ha!


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                        The problem is not freedom of speech, it's a lack of freedom of speech. In most Muslim theocracies there is no freedom of speech so Muslims can't decry the radical elements of their theology because they don't have the freedom to do so. As a result, there is no restraining force on the radical elements and they are allowed to do as they please.

                        “It is better to fail in originality than to succeed in imitation.”

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                          There is only one wrong here: false report of a "hate crime". The rest is a freedom of speech issue - please note that you are not required to agree with the speech, but you are not entitled to prohibit it.

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                          I'm also saying that the US usually forbids this. Truth and propaganda can be misused. Selling this somewhere would have been more legal, but even that is usually stopped when it (un)suits the other guy.


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                            Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:

                            Two wrongs don't make a right,

                            So there were these two asian guys named Wong and a girl named Sally Wright. . .

                            Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:

                            it just propagates one

                            I didn't know you were into horticulture. In other words, when the fuck did Muslims adopt the idea of turning the other cheek? No, not those cheeks!

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                            Oakman wrote:

                            So there were these two asian guys named Wong and a girl named Sally Wright. . .

                            Sorry, I don't share girls :laugh:

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                              Oakman wrote:

                              So there were these two asian guys named Wong and a girl named Sally Wright. . .

                              Go on, I'm listening.

                              Oakman wrote:

                              I didn't know you were into horticulture.

                              I meant right in the sense of right to do something.

                              Oakman wrote:

                              In other words, when the f*** did Muslims adopt the idea of turning the other cheek?

                              Never said they did. Again, are we talking about all of them now? Cause it seems to me that those who aren't up in arms against others are actually turning a cheek.

                              Oakman wrote:

                              No, not those cheeks!

                              Those cheeks. Where's the slap icon? Good movie.


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                              Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:

                              Go on, I'm listening.

                              If you don't recognize the classic pun, then you don't really speak the language.

                              Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:

                              meant right in the sense of right to do something

                              And I was talking about propagation. A fun something to do, right?

                              Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:

                              Again, are we talking about all of them now?

                              Nope, just all of them except Omar Sharif.

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                                The problem is not freedom of speech, it's a lack of freedom of speech. In most Muslim theocracies there is no freedom of speech so Muslims can't decry the radical elements of their theology because they don't have the freedom to do so. As a result, there is no restraining force on the radical elements and they are allowed to do as they please.

                                “It is better to fail in originality than to succeed in imitation.”

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                                Bassam Abdul Baki
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                                Funny. Coming to work today I saw a bumper sticker that said freedom isn't free. Freedom of anything is an illusion. You're free to do and say whatever you want unless it pisses off those in a higher position than you or enough people. People actually want conformity. That's why I empty my bladder before going to work.


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                                  Oakman wrote:

                                  So there were these two asian guys named Wong and a girl named Sally Wright. . .

                                  Sorry, I don't share girls :laugh:

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                                  rim-shot; cymbal crash.

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                                    Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:

                                    Go on, I'm listening.

                                    If you don't recognize the classic pun, then you don't really speak the language.

                                    Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:

                                    meant right in the sense of right to do something

                                    And I was talking about propagation. A fun something to do, right?

                                    Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:

                                    Again, are we talking about all of them now?

                                    Nope, just all of them except Omar Sharif.

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                                    Bassam Abdul Baki
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                                    Oakman wrote:

                                    If you don't recognize the classic pun, then you don't really speak the language.

                                    I do. I just wanted to hear the climax. Do I need to explain my puns?

                                    Oakman wrote:

                                    Nope, just all of them except Omar Sharif.

                                    In other words, he who bends to your will. Cat Stevens would disagree.


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                                      Oakman wrote:

                                      So there were these two asian guys named Wong and a girl named Sally Wright. . .

                                      Sorry, I don't share girls :laugh:

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                                      Bassam Abdul Baki
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                                      But you do boys? :wtf:


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                                        I'm also saying that the US usually forbids this. Truth and propaganda can be misused. Selling this somewhere would have been more legal, but even that is usually stopped when it (un)suits the other guy.


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                                        Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:

                                        I'm also saying that the US usually forbids this

                                        Horse-puckey. Unless the CD directly and deliberately urges violence to be done against Muslims, any attempt to interfere with the CD's distribution would have been slapped down by the judicial system immediately.

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                                          Oakman wrote:

                                          If you don't recognize the classic pun, then you don't really speak the language.

                                          I do. I just wanted to hear the climax. Do I need to explain my puns?

                                          Oakman wrote:

                                          Nope, just all of them except Omar Sharif.

                                          In other words, he who bends to your will. Cat Stevens would disagree.


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                                          Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:

                                          In other words, he who bends to your will.

                                          Sheeeyit, Man. Omar don' bend to my will - or my won't either. You just don't like him 'cause he uses toilet paper.

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