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  • O Oakman

    Rob Graham wrote:

    what would an Indian troll know

    Have you ever looked at his picture in his profile? It explains an awful lot.

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    Oh the horror....

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      Oh the horror....

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      Oakman
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      Rob Graham wrote:

      Oh the horror....

      I'm pretty sure if I had grown up looking like that, I'd have a chip on my shoulder, too.

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        Oh the horror....

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        Paul Conrad
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        I wonder which bridge that troll sits under? I'll make sure I don't have to cross it.

        "The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon "Not only do you continue to babble nonsense, you can't even correctly remember the nonsense you babbled just minutes ago." - Rob Graham

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        • O Oakman

          Rob Graham wrote:

          Oh the horror....

          I'm pretty sure if I had grown up looking like that, I'd have a chip on my shoulder, too.

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          Sahir Shah
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          You hurt my feelings :(( :(( I wonder what you look like dipshit. too scared to post your picture ?

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            You hurt my feelings :(( :(( I wonder what you look like dipshit. too scared to post your picture ?

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            Rob Graham
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            You really should look before you post a remark that makes you seem really dumb. Oakman's picture is in his bio. Mine on the other hand is not, and I prefer my privacy for reasons that have nothing to do with cowardice. In any case, the personal remark on your appearance was inappropriate and I apologize for it.:rose:

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            • R Rob Graham

              You really should look before you post a remark that makes you seem really dumb. Oakman's picture is in his bio. Mine on the other hand is not, and I prefer my privacy for reasons that have nothing to do with cowardice. In any case, the personal remark on your appearance was inappropriate and I apologize for it.:rose:

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              Paul Conrad
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              Rob Graham wrote:

              Mine on the other hand is not, and I prefer my privacy for reasons that have nothing to do with cowardice.

              Same here. That is why I made up a Simpson's Avatar when the Simpson's Movie came out. It does not really reflect at all what I really look like.

              "The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon "Not only do you continue to babble nonsense, you can't even correctly remember the nonsense you babbled just minutes ago." - Rob Graham

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              • R Rob Graham

                You really should look before you post a remark that makes you seem really dumb. Oakman's picture is in his bio. Mine on the other hand is not, and I prefer my privacy for reasons that have nothing to do with cowardice. In any case, the personal remark on your appearance was inappropriate and I apologize for it.:rose:

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                Sahir Shah
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                Rob Graham wrote:

                Oakman's picture is in his bio.

                ewwww! so which one's Oakman ? I hope for his sake it's the cat. :laugh:

                Rob Graham wrote:

                In any case, the personal remark on your appearance was inappropriate and I apologize for it.

                Ah! Don't worry about it. I don't take these things seriously.

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                • S Sahir Shah

                  What is the American dream? It is fundamentally a belief in the freedom that allows Americans to achieve their goals through hard work. It's hard to achieve that dream if you shackle the poor through proportional (or regressive) taxation. It is a denial of the American dream. So, what makes a loser like Joe the plumber who can never hope to make it into the 250,000+ tax bracket yearn for tax breaks for the rich ? And to quote the American dream as a support for his silly ideas ? The reptilian humanoids are deeply curious and plan to institute a probe at the next possible opportunity.

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                  A lady I dated in college from Tiawan had a dream of opening an antique store in Washington DC in Georgtown district and become a millionair at it, then to marry a doctor with lots of realestate (no not me). The lady in the next office thinks she can be a millionair by coding some kind of wierdo dating site, she will be going live some time in December. While both these ladies expectations are a bit on the unrealistic side, they are convinced they can achieve them, and they think of themselves as allready wealthy in a future sense, and they just might achieve thier goals. This is still possible in this country.

                  MrPlankton (bad guy)"Fear is a hammer, and when the people are beaten finally to the conviction that their existence hangs by a frayed thread, they will be led where they need to go." (good guy)"Which is where?" (bad guy)"To a responsible future in a properly managed world." Dean Koontz, The Good Guy

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                    A lady I dated in college from Tiawan had a dream of opening an antique store in Washington DC in Georgtown district and become a millionair at it, then to marry a doctor with lots of realestate (no not me). The lady in the next office thinks she can be a millionair by coding some kind of wierdo dating site, she will be going live some time in December. While both these ladies expectations are a bit on the unrealistic side, they are convinced they can achieve them, and they think of themselves as allready wealthy in a future sense, and they just might achieve thier goals. This is still possible in this country.

                    MrPlankton (bad guy)"Fear is a hammer, and when the people are beaten finally to the conviction that their existence hangs by a frayed thread, they will be led where they need to go." (good guy)"Which is where?" (bad guy)"To a responsible future in a properly managed world." Dean Koontz, The Good Guy

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                    MrPlankton wrote:

                    While both these ladies expectations are a bit on the unrealistic side

                    Let them dream on. Reality will be there waiting for them when they wake up.

                    "The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon "Not only do you continue to babble nonsense, you can't even correctly remember the nonsense you babbled just minutes ago." - Rob Graham

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                    • R Rob Graham

                      You really should look before you post a remark that makes you seem really dumb. Oakman's picture is in his bio. Mine on the other hand is not, and I prefer my privacy for reasons that have nothing to do with cowardice. In any case, the personal remark on your appearance was inappropriate and I apologize for it.:rose:

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                      Rob Graham wrote:

                      In any case, the personal remark on your appearance was inappropriate and I apologize for it.

                      I'm truly curious. You felt his statement that you were getting fucked by a donkey was not inappropriate? :confused:

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                      • S Sahir Shah

                        What is the American dream? It is fundamentally a belief in the freedom that allows Americans to achieve their goals through hard work. It's hard to achieve that dream if you shackle the poor through proportional (or regressive) taxation. It is a denial of the American dream. So, what makes a loser like Joe the plumber who can never hope to make it into the 250,000+ tax bracket yearn for tax breaks for the rich ? And to quote the American dream as a support for his silly ideas ? The reptilian humanoids are deeply curious and plan to institute a probe at the next possible opportunity.

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                        The American Dream is "that dream of a land in which life should be better and richer and fuller for everyone, with opportunity for each according to ability or achievement. It is a difficult dream for the European upper classes to interpret adequately, and too many of us ourselves have grown weary and mistrustful of it. It is not a dream of motor cars and high wages merely, but a dream of social order in which each man and each woman shall be able to attain to the fullest stature of which they are innately capable, and be recognized by others for what they are, regardless of the fortuitous circumstances of birth or position." ~ James Truslow Adams when he coined the phrase.

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                        • O Oakman

                          Rob Graham wrote:

                          In any case, the personal remark on your appearance was inappropriate and I apologize for it.

                          I'm truly curious. You felt his statement that you were getting fucked by a donkey was not inappropriate? :confused:

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                          Oakman wrote:

                          You felt his statement that you were getting f***ed by a donkey was not inappropriate?

                          It was quite inappropriate. I don't expect apologies (or even civility) from a troll, but I don't care to be known to have the same standards of behavior. Also note that I said my remark was inappropriate, not inaccurate. He remains an ignorant troll who has no business commenting on things of which he clearly has no understanding.

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                            Oakman wrote:

                            You felt his statement that you were getting f***ed by a donkey was not inappropriate?

                            It was quite inappropriate. I don't expect apologies (or even civility) from a troll, but I don't care to be known to have the same standards of behavior. Also note that I said my remark was inappropriate, not inaccurate. He remains an ignorant troll who has no business commenting on things of which he clearly has no understanding.

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                            Rob Graham wrote:

                            It was quite inappropriate. I don't expect apologies (or even civility) from a troll, but I don't care to be known to have the same standards of behavior.

                            Good answer. I guess I am more of an eye for an eye kind of guy. When I read his insult to you, steam came out of my ears. I should think about what you said the next time I start getting carried away.

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                            • O Oakman

                              Rob Graham wrote:

                              It was quite inappropriate. I don't expect apologies (or even civility) from a troll, but I don't care to be known to have the same standards of behavior.

                              Good answer. I guess I am more of an eye for an eye kind of guy. When I read his insult to you, steam came out of my ears. I should think about what you said the next time I start getting carried away.

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                              Rob Graham
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                              I fly off the handle from time to time myself.

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                              • O Oakman

                                Rob Graham wrote:

                                It was quite inappropriate. I don't expect apologies (or even civility) from a troll, but I don't care to be known to have the same standards of behavior.

                                Good answer. I guess I am more of an eye for an eye kind of guy. When I read his insult to you, steam came out of my ears. I should think about what you said the next time I start getting carried away.

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                                Sahir Shah
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                                Oakman wrote:

                                Good answer. I guess I am more of an eye for an eye kind of guy. When I read his insult to you, steam came out of my ears. I should think about what you said the next time I start getting carried away.

                                I would like to nominate both you guys for the next Nobel prize for peace :-D

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                                • O Oakman

                                  Rob Graham wrote:

                                  It was quite inappropriate. I don't expect apologies (or even civility) from a troll, but I don't care to be known to have the same standards of behavior.

                                  Good answer. I guess I am more of an eye for an eye kind of guy. When I read his insult to you, steam came out of my ears. I should think about what you said the next time I start getting carried away.

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                                  Paul Conrad
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                                  Oakman wrote:

                                  When I read his insult to you, steam came out of my ears

                                  I just simply added it to my D.M. script :rolleyes:

                                  "The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon "Not only do you continue to babble nonsense, you can't even correctly remember the nonsense you babbled just minutes ago." - Rob Graham

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                                    Oakman wrote:

                                    When I read his insult to you, steam came out of my ears

                                    I just simply added it to my D.M. script :rolleyes:

                                    "The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon "Not only do you continue to babble nonsense, you can't even correctly remember the nonsense you babbled just minutes ago." - Rob Graham

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                                    Oakman
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                                    Paul Conrad wrote:

                                    I just simply added it to my D.M. script

                                    You're smart, Paul. Maybe too smart. You want me brudder Vito to come have a talk witchoose?

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                                    • O Oakman

                                      Paul Conrad wrote:

                                      I just simply added it to my D.M. script

                                      You're smart, Paul. Maybe too smart. You want me brudder Vito to come have a talk witchoose?

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                                      Paul Conrad
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                                      Oakman wrote:

                                      Maybe too smart.

                                      Naaaaaaw :-\ I've scored a 170+ on those IQ tests on the 'net after several brewskies :rolleyes:

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                                      • S Stan Shannon

                                        Oakman wrote:

                                        Something tells me that the way you define "honestly" ends up being "those who have achieved the American Dream."

                                        No, it means those who made good decisions in life rather than bad decisions and then blamed those bad decisions on others rather than taking responsibility for them and moving on.

                                        Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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                                        Bassam Abdul Baki
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                                        Stan Shannon wrote:

                                        it means those who made good decisions in life rather than bad decisions

                                        That sounds like luck to me. Either you get lucky or you don't.

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                                          Oakman wrote:

                                          Maybe too smart.

                                          Naaaaaaw :-\ I've scored a 170+ on those IQ tests on the 'net after several brewskies :rolleyes:

                                          "The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon "Not only do you continue to babble nonsense, you can't even correctly remember the nonsense you babbled just minutes ago." - Rob Graham

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                                          Paul Conrad wrote:

                                          I've scored a 170+ on those IQ tests on the 'net after several brewskies

                                          Back in the '70's it was amazing who you could score with after a couple of joints.

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