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  • L Lost User

    how do you add an intellisense comment? :S

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    Dan Neely
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    in front of a method/class variable in C# type /// visual studio will expand it out into a stub for you to fill in.

    Today's lesson is brought to you by the word "niggardly". Remember kids, don't attribute to racism what can be explained by Scandinavian language roots. -- Robert Royall

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    • F Fabio Franco

      I agree and I would find a better job as fast as I could, just because bad habits and practices are very difficult to overcome once they are settled.

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      Roger Wright
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      Fabio Franco wrote:

      bad habits and practices are very difficult to overcome

      Have you ever wondered why bad habits are so hard to overcome, but good habits are so easy to lose? :sigh:

      "A Journey of a Thousand Rest Stops Begins with a Single Movement"

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        Fabio Franco wrote:

        bad habits and practices are very difficult to overcome

        Have you ever wondered why bad habits are so hard to overcome, but good habits are so easy to lose? :sigh:

        "A Journey of a Thousand Rest Stops Begins with a Single Movement"

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        Fabio Franco
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        Yes, and I concluded it is all our fault :~ Good habits are usually boring, difficult or tiring to maintain. And often, takes time. Bad habits are usually the easiest and quickest path and very "lazy-friendly".

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        • R realJSOP

          I'm sitting here at home, waiting for the DirecTV guy to show up, and thought I'd work on some code for a new article I'm writing... Writing code for a CodeProject article is fun, and can be quite fast when you make certain assumptions about the objects being used and data being manipulated. Once you get it working, you think, "Ahhh, it's almost ready to release." Of course, my desire to release the code is almost always tempered with a desire to make it self-documenting and somewhat bulletproof. Adding comments and exception handling is tedious drudgery - something I equate to ditch-digging, yet it needs to be done. You have to be a philosopher (no matter what you do, it seems like it's never enough) and a clairvoyant (anyone using this code might try this or that) to perform this task effectively. I've been working for three hours, and I've only covered two classes. In the end, it's a pain in the ass, but I bolster my attitude knowing that even if my efforts might not be appreciated by a single person, I'll be able to maintain the code properly in the future. I have advice for anyone just starting out as a programmer, regardless of the language or platform you're targeting: 0) ALWAYS comment your code. It's best to do it as you go, or at least once you've completed the bulk of an object's code. If you don't comment as you go, you probably won't have time to go back and rectify the situation. Being lazy up front causes maintenance problems down the road. 1) Never assume that someone knows what you were thinking. If there is ANY question about your intentions, document it in comments. 2) Don't be afraid to be verbose. Partial sentences can sometimes convey an incorrect perception of what the code is doing, and why it's doing it. Comments do NOT cost anything as far as the compiled size/speed of your assemblies are concerned. 3) In the case of Microsoft tools, Make appropriate comments within the Intellisense system. There is NOTHING that pisses me off more than trying to use an object and finding out through trial and error that a property is read-only. 4) USE COMPLETE WORDS! Code commenting is not a valid "texting" environment. Using things like "Ur", or "plz" just pisses off the adults. 5) Every property delegate, constructor, and method should have an Intellisense comment. 6) Make it a practice to appropriately comment your own personal code, and you'll find it easier to do in code you write for your employer/customer. 7) If there is a possibility that another progra

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          • R realJSOP

            I'm sitting here at home, waiting for the DirecTV guy to show up, and thought I'd work on some code for a new article I'm writing... Writing code for a CodeProject article is fun, and can be quite fast when you make certain assumptions about the objects being used and data being manipulated. Once you get it working, you think, "Ahhh, it's almost ready to release." Of course, my desire to release the code is almost always tempered with a desire to make it self-documenting and somewhat bulletproof. Adding comments and exception handling is tedious drudgery - something I equate to ditch-digging, yet it needs to be done. You have to be a philosopher (no matter what you do, it seems like it's never enough) and a clairvoyant (anyone using this code might try this or that) to perform this task effectively. I've been working for three hours, and I've only covered two classes. In the end, it's a pain in the ass, but I bolster my attitude knowing that even if my efforts might not be appreciated by a single person, I'll be able to maintain the code properly in the future. I have advice for anyone just starting out as a programmer, regardless of the language or platform you're targeting: 0) ALWAYS comment your code. It's best to do it as you go, or at least once you've completed the bulk of an object's code. If you don't comment as you go, you probably won't have time to go back and rectify the situation. Being lazy up front causes maintenance problems down the road. 1) Never assume that someone knows what you were thinking. If there is ANY question about your intentions, document it in comments. 2) Don't be afraid to be verbose. Partial sentences can sometimes convey an incorrect perception of what the code is doing, and why it's doing it. Comments do NOT cost anything as far as the compiled size/speed of your assemblies are concerned. 3) In the case of Microsoft tools, Make appropriate comments within the Intellisense system. There is NOTHING that pisses me off more than trying to use an object and finding out through trial and error that a property is read-only. 4) USE COMPLETE WORDS! Code commenting is not a valid "texting" environment. Using things like "Ur", or "plz" just pisses off the adults. 5) Every property delegate, constructor, and method should have an Intellisense comment. 6) Make it a practice to appropriately comment your own personal code, and you'll find it easier to do in code you write for your employer/customer. 7) If there is a possibility that another progra

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            CDMTJX
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            Amen. I once worked with a very senior person who said that comments were worthless, see the code, the comments are always out of date. So he didn't write them, and wrote frightfully elegant code (if you know what I mean). I've had to maintain other folks old code. Knowing what they had in mind can be *very* useful, esp if the code doesn't agree. Also knowing history - what changed, when, and why is useful. I'm not a mind reader, esp if they're long gone...

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            • R realJSOP

              I'm sitting here at home, waiting for the DirecTV guy to show up, and thought I'd work on some code for a new article I'm writing... Writing code for a CodeProject article is fun, and can be quite fast when you make certain assumptions about the objects being used and data being manipulated. Once you get it working, you think, "Ahhh, it's almost ready to release." Of course, my desire to release the code is almost always tempered with a desire to make it self-documenting and somewhat bulletproof. Adding comments and exception handling is tedious drudgery - something I equate to ditch-digging, yet it needs to be done. You have to be a philosopher (no matter what you do, it seems like it's never enough) and a clairvoyant (anyone using this code might try this or that) to perform this task effectively. I've been working for three hours, and I've only covered two classes. In the end, it's a pain in the ass, but I bolster my attitude knowing that even if my efforts might not be appreciated by a single person, I'll be able to maintain the code properly in the future. I have advice for anyone just starting out as a programmer, regardless of the language or platform you're targeting: 0) ALWAYS comment your code. It's best to do it as you go, or at least once you've completed the bulk of an object's code. If you don't comment as you go, you probably won't have time to go back and rectify the situation. Being lazy up front causes maintenance problems down the road. 1) Never assume that someone knows what you were thinking. If there is ANY question about your intentions, document it in comments. 2) Don't be afraid to be verbose. Partial sentences can sometimes convey an incorrect perception of what the code is doing, and why it's doing it. Comments do NOT cost anything as far as the compiled size/speed of your assemblies are concerned. 3) In the case of Microsoft tools, Make appropriate comments within the Intellisense system. There is NOTHING that pisses me off more than trying to use an object and finding out through trial and error that a property is read-only. 4) USE COMPLETE WORDS! Code commenting is not a valid "texting" environment. Using things like "Ur", or "plz" just pisses off the adults. 5) Every property delegate, constructor, and method should have an Intellisense comment. 6) Make it a practice to appropriately comment your own personal code, and you'll find it easier to do in code you write for your employer/customer. 7) If there is a possibility that another progra

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              Terry Brearley
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              Good advice, good spelling, and good grammar. Apparently, you can imagine my surprise to find all these things in the same place on the web. Good job.

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              • R realJSOP

                I'm sitting here at home, waiting for the DirecTV guy to show up, and thought I'd work on some code for a new article I'm writing... Writing code for a CodeProject article is fun, and can be quite fast when you make certain assumptions about the objects being used and data being manipulated. Once you get it working, you think, "Ahhh, it's almost ready to release." Of course, my desire to release the code is almost always tempered with a desire to make it self-documenting and somewhat bulletproof. Adding comments and exception handling is tedious drudgery - something I equate to ditch-digging, yet it needs to be done. You have to be a philosopher (no matter what you do, it seems like it's never enough) and a clairvoyant (anyone using this code might try this or that) to perform this task effectively. I've been working for three hours, and I've only covered two classes. In the end, it's a pain in the ass, but I bolster my attitude knowing that even if my efforts might not be appreciated by a single person, I'll be able to maintain the code properly in the future. I have advice for anyone just starting out as a programmer, regardless of the language or platform you're targeting: 0) ALWAYS comment your code. It's best to do it as you go, or at least once you've completed the bulk of an object's code. If you don't comment as you go, you probably won't have time to go back and rectify the situation. Being lazy up front causes maintenance problems down the road. 1) Never assume that someone knows what you were thinking. If there is ANY question about your intentions, document it in comments. 2) Don't be afraid to be verbose. Partial sentences can sometimes convey an incorrect perception of what the code is doing, and why it's doing it. Comments do NOT cost anything as far as the compiled size/speed of your assemblies are concerned. 3) In the case of Microsoft tools, Make appropriate comments within the Intellisense system. There is NOTHING that pisses me off more than trying to use an object and finding out through trial and error that a property is read-only. 4) USE COMPLETE WORDS! Code commenting is not a valid "texting" environment. Using things like "Ur", or "plz" just pisses off the adults. 5) Every property delegate, constructor, and method should have an Intellisense comment. 6) Make it a practice to appropriately comment your own personal code, and you'll find it easier to do in code you write for your employer/customer. 7) If there is a possibility that another progra

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                patbob
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                Now if only you could get Open Source developers to do this. I can pipe dream if I want to. :)

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                • R Rajesh R Subramanian

                  John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                  1. Never assume that someone knows what you were thinking.

                  John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                  1. Don't be afraid to be verbose.

                  John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                  1. USE COMPLETE WORDS! Code commenting is not a valid "texting" environment. Using things like "Ur", or "plz" just pisses off the adults.

                  These points go well to be presented to the ones who ask questions in the programming forums too. Especially #1 - I can't explain how it feels like when someone says this: "It is not working... Plz help". Breaking the rules #1) #2) and #4) together in a single post.

                  It is a crappy thing, but it's life -^ Carlo Pallini

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                  Jordon4Kraftd
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                  Agreed, I shutter when i see incomplete posts from new programmers. I understand they need guidance but man it takes 9 posts just to get the details out of them and by then they figure it out since you showed them what a "Stack Trace" is and how it helps.

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                  • F Fabio Franco

                    I agree and I would find a better job as fast as I could, just because bad habits and practices are very difficult to overcome once they are settled.

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                    Jordon4Kraftd
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                    Couldn't agree more, worked for a crappy place that also "let" me to IT work in my "Spare" time. Boss was lazy :zzz: , and it slowly effected me X| , now at my new job I am slowly breaking that habit :-D now that I have a boss and good mentor to reflect against. Get out while you can.

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                    • D Dan Neely

                      in front of a method/class variable in C# type /// visual studio will expand it out into a stub for you to fill in.

                      Today's lesson is brought to you by the word "niggardly". Remember kids, don't attribute to racism what can be explained by Scandinavian language roots. -- Robert Royall

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                      Jordon4Kraftd
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                      By far one of the best features. Man I think i use that everywhere, especially when i have multiple (having trouble remember word :doh: , going to comments....) overloads in C#. ie: public class TaskManager { private void DoTask() private void DoTask(string TaskName) private void DoTask(string TaskName, bool ASync) } Now what do you think each one does? Sure helps me :) . And if I call DoTask do you think if there are no tasks to do it throws a exception. because it sure the hell doesn't have a return value if it succeeded. Or does it fire a event for when the task is complete, or does it only to that when "Async" is set to true? What if there is no task name..... My 2 cents..

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                      • R realJSOP

                        I'm sitting here at home, waiting for the DirecTV guy to show up, and thought I'd work on some code for a new article I'm writing... Writing code for a CodeProject article is fun, and can be quite fast when you make certain assumptions about the objects being used and data being manipulated. Once you get it working, you think, "Ahhh, it's almost ready to release." Of course, my desire to release the code is almost always tempered with a desire to make it self-documenting and somewhat bulletproof. Adding comments and exception handling is tedious drudgery - something I equate to ditch-digging, yet it needs to be done. You have to be a philosopher (no matter what you do, it seems like it's never enough) and a clairvoyant (anyone using this code might try this or that) to perform this task effectively. I've been working for three hours, and I've only covered two classes. In the end, it's a pain in the ass, but I bolster my attitude knowing that even if my efforts might not be appreciated by a single person, I'll be able to maintain the code properly in the future. I have advice for anyone just starting out as a programmer, regardless of the language or platform you're targeting: 0) ALWAYS comment your code. It's best to do it as you go, or at least once you've completed the bulk of an object's code. If you don't comment as you go, you probably won't have time to go back and rectify the situation. Being lazy up front causes maintenance problems down the road. 1) Never assume that someone knows what you were thinking. If there is ANY question about your intentions, document it in comments. 2) Don't be afraid to be verbose. Partial sentences can sometimes convey an incorrect perception of what the code is doing, and why it's doing it. Comments do NOT cost anything as far as the compiled size/speed of your assemblies are concerned. 3) In the case of Microsoft tools, Make appropriate comments within the Intellisense system. There is NOTHING that pisses me off more than trying to use an object and finding out through trial and error that a property is read-only. 4) USE COMPLETE WORDS! Code commenting is not a valid "texting" environment. Using things like "Ur", or "plz" just pisses off the adults. 5) Every property delegate, constructor, and method should have an Intellisense comment. 6) Make it a practice to appropriately comment your own personal code, and you'll find it easier to do in code you write for your employer/customer. 7) If there is a possibility that another progra

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                        envador
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                        Hear, hear! Well said!

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                        • R realJSOP

                          I'm sitting here at home, waiting for the DirecTV guy to show up, and thought I'd work on some code for a new article I'm writing... Writing code for a CodeProject article is fun, and can be quite fast when you make certain assumptions about the objects being used and data being manipulated. Once you get it working, you think, "Ahhh, it's almost ready to release." Of course, my desire to release the code is almost always tempered with a desire to make it self-documenting and somewhat bulletproof. Adding comments and exception handling is tedious drudgery - something I equate to ditch-digging, yet it needs to be done. You have to be a philosopher (no matter what you do, it seems like it's never enough) and a clairvoyant (anyone using this code might try this or that) to perform this task effectively. I've been working for three hours, and I've only covered two classes. In the end, it's a pain in the ass, but I bolster my attitude knowing that even if my efforts might not be appreciated by a single person, I'll be able to maintain the code properly in the future. I have advice for anyone just starting out as a programmer, regardless of the language or platform you're targeting: 0) ALWAYS comment your code. It's best to do it as you go, or at least once you've completed the bulk of an object's code. If you don't comment as you go, you probably won't have time to go back and rectify the situation. Being lazy up front causes maintenance problems down the road. 1) Never assume that someone knows what you were thinking. If there is ANY question about your intentions, document it in comments. 2) Don't be afraid to be verbose. Partial sentences can sometimes convey an incorrect perception of what the code is doing, and why it's doing it. Comments do NOT cost anything as far as the compiled size/speed of your assemblies are concerned. 3) In the case of Microsoft tools, Make appropriate comments within the Intellisense system. There is NOTHING that pisses me off more than trying to use an object and finding out through trial and error that a property is read-only. 4) USE COMPLETE WORDS! Code commenting is not a valid "texting" environment. Using things like "Ur", or "plz" just pisses off the adults. 5) Every property delegate, constructor, and method should have an Intellisense comment. 6) Make it a practice to appropriately comment your own personal code, and you'll find it easier to do in code you write for your employer/customer. 7) If there is a possibility that another progra

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                          aabsgeek
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                          Great words of advice, my biggest pive these days is to pick up code with no comments and have to figure out what the programmer was trying to do. Many times it is faster to rewrite than to spend time playing with uncommented code.

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                          • D Douglas Troy

                            Didn't he forget to say PLZ? :rolleyes:

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                            NimitySSJ
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                            I think UR onto something... ;)

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                            • R realJSOP

                              I'm sitting here at home, waiting for the DirecTV guy to show up, and thought I'd work on some code for a new article I'm writing... Writing code for a CodeProject article is fun, and can be quite fast when you make certain assumptions about the objects being used and data being manipulated. Once you get it working, you think, "Ahhh, it's almost ready to release." Of course, my desire to release the code is almost always tempered with a desire to make it self-documenting and somewhat bulletproof. Adding comments and exception handling is tedious drudgery - something I equate to ditch-digging, yet it needs to be done. You have to be a philosopher (no matter what you do, it seems like it's never enough) and a clairvoyant (anyone using this code might try this or that) to perform this task effectively. I've been working for three hours, and I've only covered two classes. In the end, it's a pain in the ass, but I bolster my attitude knowing that even if my efforts might not be appreciated by a single person, I'll be able to maintain the code properly in the future. I have advice for anyone just starting out as a programmer, regardless of the language or platform you're targeting: 0) ALWAYS comment your code. It's best to do it as you go, or at least once you've completed the bulk of an object's code. If you don't comment as you go, you probably won't have time to go back and rectify the situation. Being lazy up front causes maintenance problems down the road. 1) Never assume that someone knows what you were thinking. If there is ANY question about your intentions, document it in comments. 2) Don't be afraid to be verbose. Partial sentences can sometimes convey an incorrect perception of what the code is doing, and why it's doing it. Comments do NOT cost anything as far as the compiled size/speed of your assemblies are concerned. 3) In the case of Microsoft tools, Make appropriate comments within the Intellisense system. There is NOTHING that pisses me off more than trying to use an object and finding out through trial and error that a property is read-only. 4) USE COMPLETE WORDS! Code commenting is not a valid "texting" environment. Using things like "Ur", or "plz" just pisses off the adults. 5) Every property delegate, constructor, and method should have an Intellisense comment. 6) Make it a practice to appropriately comment your own personal code, and you'll find it easier to do in code you write for your employer/customer. 7) If there is a possibility that another progra

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                              Theodore M Seeber
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                              I'd add one more thing: If your system keeps a log for *any* reason, then instead of inline comments, write a function that writes a time-date stamped time to the log, then put your inline comments into string parameters for that function. It'll help for finding any logic bugs in your system.

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                              • D Dan Neely

                                in front of a method/class variable in C# type /// visual studio will expand it out into a stub for you to fill in.

                                Today's lesson is brought to you by the word "niggardly". Remember kids, don't attribute to racism what can be explained by Scandinavian language roots. -- Robert Royall

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                                Lost User
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                                oh, C# :( Is there a similar feature available for C++?

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                                • F Fabio Franco

                                  Yes, and I concluded it is all our fault :~ Good habits are usually boring, difficult or tiring to maintain. And often, takes time. Bad habits are usually the easiest and quickest path and very "lazy-friendly".

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                                  Roger Wright
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                                  Fabio Franco wrote:

                                  Bad habits are usually the easiest and quickest path and very "lazy-friendly".

                                  Plus they often feel good. :-D

                                  "A Journey of a Thousand Rest Stops Begins with a Single Movement"

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                                  • E Elizabeth Connolly

                                    Thanks for a great post - totally agree with these points. Another thing I'd add is the "free" comments provided by sensible, meaningful names for everything - variables, parameters, methods, etc. They might take a bit longer to type, but in my mind contribute enormously to code clarity and maintainability.

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                                    Kevin McFarlane
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                                    Elizabeth Connolly wrote:

                                    meaningful names for everything - variables, parameters, methods, etc.

                                    I agree. Coming up with good names is often harder than writing the algorithm. And it often needs to be iterative too. Refactoring tools for renaming help enormously here.

                                    Kevin

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                                    • R realJSOP

                                      I'm sitting here at home, waiting for the DirecTV guy to show up, and thought I'd work on some code for a new article I'm writing... Writing code for a CodeProject article is fun, and can be quite fast when you make certain assumptions about the objects being used and data being manipulated. Once you get it working, you think, "Ahhh, it's almost ready to release." Of course, my desire to release the code is almost always tempered with a desire to make it self-documenting and somewhat bulletproof. Adding comments and exception handling is tedious drudgery - something I equate to ditch-digging, yet it needs to be done. You have to be a philosopher (no matter what you do, it seems like it's never enough) and a clairvoyant (anyone using this code might try this or that) to perform this task effectively. I've been working for three hours, and I've only covered two classes. In the end, it's a pain in the ass, but I bolster my attitude knowing that even if my efforts might not be appreciated by a single person, I'll be able to maintain the code properly in the future. I have advice for anyone just starting out as a programmer, regardless of the language or platform you're targeting: 0) ALWAYS comment your code. It's best to do it as you go, or at least once you've completed the bulk of an object's code. If you don't comment as you go, you probably won't have time to go back and rectify the situation. Being lazy up front causes maintenance problems down the road. 1) Never assume that someone knows what you were thinking. If there is ANY question about your intentions, document it in comments. 2) Don't be afraid to be verbose. Partial sentences can sometimes convey an incorrect perception of what the code is doing, and why it's doing it. Comments do NOT cost anything as far as the compiled size/speed of your assemblies are concerned. 3) In the case of Microsoft tools, Make appropriate comments within the Intellisense system. There is NOTHING that pisses me off more than trying to use an object and finding out through trial and error that a property is read-only. 4) USE COMPLETE WORDS! Code commenting is not a valid "texting" environment. Using things like "Ur", or "plz" just pisses off the adults. 5) Every property delegate, constructor, and method should have an Intellisense comment. 6) Make it a practice to appropriately comment your own personal code, and you'll find it easier to do in code you write for your employer/customer. 7) If there is a possibility that another progra

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                                      Kevin McFarlane
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                                      You get my 5. :)

                                      John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                                      ALWAYS comment your code

                                      Nothing is worse for the soul than having to maintain code that has literally zero comments. :wtf: This has happened to me in a couple of contracts recently. :mad:

                                      Kevin

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                                      • L Lost User

                                        oh, C# :( Is there a similar feature available for C++?

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                                        realJSOP
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                                        I believe that it works in all project types with VS2005 and VS2008. I haven't actually tried it because I stopped doing C++ more than a year ago, but I don't see why it shouldn't work.

                                        "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                                        "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                                        • T Terry Brearley

                                          Good advice, good spelling, and good grammar. Apparently, you can imagine my surprise to find all these things in the same place on the web. Good job.

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                                          realJSOP
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                                          :) I was educated on the east coast (Maryland) in the 60's and mid-70's, when they were still actually teaching kids how to read and write.

                                          "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                                          "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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