Following on with the trend: years
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For me; 1900 = number - one thousand nine hundred, year - nineteen hundered 1990 = number - one thousand nine hundred and ninety, year - nineteen ninety; etc. My mother has always broken phone numbers down, but I never do. I rarely bother to memorise a phone number, I just wait to memorise it naturally over time, without effort. As an aside, what name do you use for this decade? (70's, 80's, 90's... ?)
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SIMON WALTON
SONORK ID 100.10024And of course, the naughties ;P Would you like to meet my teddy bear ?
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All this talk about numbers, and specifically Colin's problem understanding hundred numbers as a child, has gotten me wondering... what do you say or think when you see years? "My" choices come first: 1900 = ninteen hundred; one thousand nine hundred 1990 = nineteen ninety; nineteen hundred and ninety; one thousand nine hundred and ninety 1999 = ninteen ninety nine; nineteen hundred and ninety nine; one thousand nine hundred and ninety nine 2002 = two thousand and two; twenty hundred and two So for me, I look at the number as a whole and break it down into either hundreds, thousands or tens, like I would with a phone number to make it easier for me to say and remember, but which might not necessarily be the correct way to represent the number. 2002 is an easy one, but for 1999 I use a totally different method. Does this confuse non-native English speakers?
David Wulff http://www.davidwulff.co.uk
I came here to be drugged, electrocuted and probed not insulted.
Years are different in my mind. I don't think about them as numbers really. I can't really explain it. I mean, 16321, 19692, 1792 3 for instance are years which I recall easily. I don't know how or why I store it in my brain primarily as a non-number, but I'm sure I do. 1 That year a swedish king named Gustav Adolf the 2nd die in Lützen protecting the protestants from the catholics (whatever that mean..) 2 One small step for a man, a giant leap for mankind. Lucky bastard.. :) 3 Vive la republique! As for how I pronounce the years, I go by your example. Eventhough some academic strut has decided that one should pronounce 2002 as "tjugohundratvå/twenty-hundred-two". Sounds ridiculous! I pronounce it "tvåtusentvå/two-thousand-two". I wonder how danish people do it.. they have a really bizzarre and complex way of verbalizing numbers! IIRC they use number markes like 20 and 50, and adds an offset to it. What's wrong with base10? :confused: Phone numbers a different for me. I tend to group them in numbers of three digits. Somehow I find it easier to remember two 3-digit numbers than three 2-digit numbers (most phone numbers in Sweden are 6 digits4). 4 Rural areas can have 5-digit numbers, larger cities like Stockholm and Gothenburg have 7 and 8-digit numbers. And then I have a third way of thinking about large numbers such as pi. For such numbers I memorize the sequence of digits, rather than the number as a whole. I know it's approximately 3.14, but after 4 or 5 decimal digits, that image is out of focus. FreeBSD is sexy. Getting closer and closer to actually submit an article...
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For me; 1900 = number - one thousand nine hundred, year - nineteen hundered 1990 = number - one thousand nine hundred and ninety, year - nineteen ninety; etc. My mother has always broken phone numbers down, but I never do. I rarely bother to memorise a phone number, I just wait to memorise it naturally over time, without effort. As an aside, what name do you use for this decade? (70's, 80's, 90's... ?)
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SIMON WALTON
SONORK ID 100.10024I don't use decade for now, I use the millenium. I guess I'll wait until 2010 before I start speaking of decades. FreeBSD is sexy. Getting closer and closer to actually submit an article...
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And of course, the naughties ;P Would you like to meet my teddy bear ?
Trollslayer wrote: Would you like to meet my teddy bear ? I'm not sure whether your teddy bear is utterly gay, into fetish/bondage or all of the above. ;) FreeBSD is sexy. Getting closer and closer to actually submit an article...
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All this talk about numbers, and specifically Colin's problem understanding hundred numbers as a child, has gotten me wondering... what do you say or think when you see years? "My" choices come first: 1900 = ninteen hundred; one thousand nine hundred 1990 = nineteen ninety; nineteen hundred and ninety; one thousand nine hundred and ninety 1999 = ninteen ninety nine; nineteen hundred and ninety nine; one thousand nine hundred and ninety nine 2002 = two thousand and two; twenty hundred and two So for me, I look at the number as a whole and break it down into either hundreds, thousands or tens, like I would with a phone number to make it easier for me to say and remember, but which might not necessarily be the correct way to represent the number. 2002 is an easy one, but for 1999 I use a totally different method. Does this confuse non-native English speakers?
David Wulff http://www.davidwulff.co.uk
I came here to be drugged, electrocuted and probed not insulted.
David Wulff wrote: 2002 = two thousand and two; twenty hundred and two I pronounce all of them the same except for this one, I leave out the 'and'. My 3rd grade teacher drilled into us not to say 'and' in numbers so I haven't since then. James "And we are all men; apart from the females." - Colin Davies
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All this talk about numbers, and specifically Colin's problem understanding hundred numbers as a child, has gotten me wondering... what do you say or think when you see years? "My" choices come first: 1900 = ninteen hundred; one thousand nine hundred 1990 = nineteen ninety; nineteen hundred and ninety; one thousand nine hundred and ninety 1999 = ninteen ninety nine; nineteen hundred and ninety nine; one thousand nine hundred and ninety nine 2002 = two thousand and two; twenty hundred and two So for me, I look at the number as a whole and break it down into either hundreds, thousands or tens, like I would with a phone number to make it easier for me to say and remember, but which might not necessarily be the correct way to represent the number. 2002 is an easy one, but for 1999 I use a totally different method. Does this confuse non-native English speakers?
David Wulff http://www.davidwulff.co.uk
I came here to be drugged, electrocuted and probed not insulted.
Here is what I think: 1900 - mil e novecentos 1990 - mil novecentos e noventa 1999 - mil novecentos e noventa e nove 2002 - dois mil e dois :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D Mauricio Ritter - Brazil Sonorking now: 100.13560 MRitter
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Trollslayer wrote: Would you like to meet my teddy bear ? I'm not sure whether your teddy bear is utterly gay, into fetish/bondage or all of the above. ;) FreeBSD is sexy. Getting closer and closer to actually submit an article...
He is my chaperone :laugh: Elaine (fluffy tigress emoticon) Would you like to meet my teddy bear ?
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And of course, the naughties ;P Would you like to meet my teddy bear ?
Trollslayer wrote: the naughties :laugh::laugh: Thanks! I've been thinking of them as the "aughts" - I like yours much better! "Knock, knock." "Who's there?" "Recursion." "Recursion who?" "Knock, knock..."
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All this talk about numbers, and specifically Colin's problem understanding hundred numbers as a child, has gotten me wondering... what do you say or think when you see years? "My" choices come first: 1900 = ninteen hundred; one thousand nine hundred 1990 = nineteen ninety; nineteen hundred and ninety; one thousand nine hundred and ninety 1999 = ninteen ninety nine; nineteen hundred and ninety nine; one thousand nine hundred and ninety nine 2002 = two thousand and two; twenty hundred and two So for me, I look at the number as a whole and break it down into either hundreds, thousands or tens, like I would with a phone number to make it easier for me to say and remember, but which might not necessarily be the correct way to represent the number. 2002 is an easy one, but for 1999 I use a totally different method. Does this confuse non-native English speakers?
David Wulff http://www.davidwulff.co.uk
I came here to be drugged, electrocuted and probed not insulted.
19?? = nineteen hundred, (if it's a year or informal count of some object) one thousand nine hundred (formal count), one nine zero zero OR one nine oh oh (reading number over the phone). 2002 = two thousand and two OR two thousand two (year), two thousand two (count), two zero zero two OR two oh oh two (reading over phone). I've never heard nor used "twenty hundred". That sounds terribly, terribly wrong.
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Shog9 Actually I use to find learning in bars when drinking really useful. It sort of makes a language liquid. - Colin Davies, Thinking in English?
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Here is what I think: 1900 - mil e novecentos 1990 - mil novecentos e noventa 1999 - mil novecentos e noventa e nove 2002 - dois mil e dois :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D Mauricio Ritter - Brazil Sonorking now: 100.13560 MRitter
1900 - negentien honderd (nineteen hundred) 1990 - negentien negentig (nineteen ninety) 1999 - negentien negenennegentig (nineteen ninetynine) 2002 - tweeduizend twee (two thousand two) -- Alex Marbus www.marbus.net But then again, I could be wrong.
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All this talk about numbers, and specifically Colin's problem understanding hundred numbers as a child, has gotten me wondering... what do you say or think when you see years? "My" choices come first: 1900 = ninteen hundred; one thousand nine hundred 1990 = nineteen ninety; nineteen hundred and ninety; one thousand nine hundred and ninety 1999 = ninteen ninety nine; nineteen hundred and ninety nine; one thousand nine hundred and ninety nine 2002 = two thousand and two; twenty hundred and two So for me, I look at the number as a whole and break it down into either hundreds, thousands or tens, like I would with a phone number to make it easier for me to say and remember, but which might not necessarily be the correct way to represent the number. 2002 is an easy one, but for 1999 I use a totally different method. Does this confuse non-native English speakers?
David Wulff http://www.davidwulff.co.uk
I came here to be drugged, electrocuted and probed not insulted.
200x = "two thousand x". Funny how "nineteen oh two" sounds fine but in the US we haven't been saying "twenty oh two". I imagine that we'll start to use "twenty x" with "twenty ten" Then of course, when "twenty thirty-seven" comes along, everyone will say "nineteen seventy" ;) --Mike-- Just released - RightClick-Encrypt v1.3 - Adds fast & easy file encryption to Explorer My really out-of-date homepage Sonork-100.19012 Acid_Helm
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200x = "two thousand x". Funny how "nineteen oh two" sounds fine but in the US we haven't been saying "twenty oh two". I imagine that we'll start to use "twenty x" with "twenty ten" Then of course, when "twenty thirty-seven" comes along, everyone will say "nineteen seventy" ;) --Mike-- Just released - RightClick-Encrypt v1.3 - Adds fast & easy file encryption to Explorer My really out-of-date homepage Sonork-100.19012 Acid_Helm
Michael Dunn wrote: when "twenty thirty-seven" comes along, everyone will say "nineteen seventy" :laugh::laugh: I hope most of us will have upgraded by then! "Knock, knock." "Who's there?" "Recursion." "Recursion who?" "Knock, knock..."
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David Wulff wrote: 2002 = two thousand and two; twenty hundred and two I pronounce all of them the same except for this one, I leave out the 'and'. My 3rd grade teacher drilled into us not to say 'and' in numbers so I haven't since then. James "And we are all men; apart from the females." - Colin Davies
You poor poor man - you never stood a chance. 242,964 = two hundred and forty two thousand and nine hundred and sixty four. Would you say "two hundred forty two thousand nine hundred sixty four"? X| Without the ands it just doesn't make any sense - it is just a set of numbers: 200, 40, 2000, 900 and a 64. Especailly so as you naturally pause between the sets of numbers. This is what I guess Colin, Nish, etc, found confusing as children.
David Wulff http://www.davidwulff.co.uk
I came here to be drugged, electrocuted and probed not insulted.
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You poor poor man - you never stood a chance. 242,964 = two hundred and forty two thousand and nine hundred and sixty four. Would you say "two hundred forty two thousand nine hundred sixty four"? X| Without the ands it just doesn't make any sense - it is just a set of numbers: 200, 40, 2000, 900 and a 64. Especailly so as you naturally pause between the sets of numbers. This is what I guess Colin, Nish, etc, found confusing as children.
David Wulff http://www.davidwulff.co.uk
I came here to be drugged, electrocuted and probed not insulted.
David Wulff wrote: 242,964 = two hundred and forty two thousand and nine hundred and sixty four. Is that how you'd write it on a check? (not that i'd complain about a $242,964 check, even were it written out in roman numerals...!)
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Shog9 Actually I use to find learning in bars when drinking really useful. It sort of makes a language liquid. - Colin Davies, Thinking in English?
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David Wulff wrote: 242,964 = two hundred and forty two thousand and nine hundred and sixty four. Is that how you'd write it on a check? (not that i'd complain about a $242,964 check, even were it written out in roman numerals...!)
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Shog9 Actually I use to find learning in bars when drinking really useful. It sort of makes a language liquid. - Colin Davies, Thinking in English?
Shog9 wrote: Is that how you'd write it on a check? Yes. (Though I would add only and a big black line at the end.)
David Wulff http://www.davidwulff.co.uk
I came here to be drugged, electrocuted and probed not insulted.