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  • R Rob Graham

    I don't know (nor want to know) what city or state you live in, but I have some suggestions you might consider. 1. Your little brother is the most at risk here, contact the local child welfare agency to get help for him immediately. This may result in them placing your brother in state custody, but at least he will have the food, shelter and medical care you cannot at present provide. If they judge that your household is still tenable, they should be able to provide financial help from one of several Aid for dependant children programs. 2. If you or your grandmother belong to a church, go see the pastor, and ask him to suggest where to go for help with your situation. 3. Take the animals to an animal shelter. You are in no position to care for them, since their support competes with your own. Give them to someone who can afford them. 4. If your mother had worked at all (and paid FICA taxes), contact the local Social Security office to see if you can get any help from Aid For Dependent Children. It will likely not be much, but it is income. 5. If you have been evicted from the present house, you will need new shelter (eventually, the local law enforcement will arrive to physically eject you from the house). Typically you have 90-120 days after receiving the printed legal notice of eviction (the landlady's verbal statement that you are evicted is worthless, she still has to go to court). Again, contact the local state or city welfare agencies (DFCS, etc). 6. Contact Aid for the elderly agencies on behalf of your grandmother. If she is not yet receiving Social Security, find out why. If she is, contact other agencies to see if she qualifies for additional support. The bottom line is that you will have to do some legwork to get help. Social services and welfare help is almost certainly available to someone in your situation, but it won't come to you. You have to seek it out, and may have to keep badgering people until you get what you need. Churches can and will help, don't avoid them because you dislike or distrust religion. Pride is a luxury you cant afford. Good luck, we'll all be pulling for you.

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    CaptainSeeSarp
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    My little brother is 18 and he collects SSI even though he is not that bad. We are perfectly alright, even the animals.

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    • C CaptainSeeSarp

      I'm not going to correct you in this case... Also he isn't the type of person to give me money. I am fine, and I will be fine as always. I just wanted to see how others would handle the situation and see what kind of input they have so I can perhaps get a few fresh ideas. You ran to your father whenever you needed money?

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      Oakman
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      CaptainSeeSarp wrote:

      I'm not going to correct you in this case...

      You can't. I was right.

      CaptainSeeSarp wrote:

      Also he isn't the type of person to give me money.

      He gave you housing.

      CaptainSeeSarp wrote:

      I am fine, and I will be fine as always.

      If you were telling the truth, something I have grave doubts about, you are not fine. You are in deep shit that's about to get deeper.

      CaptainSeeSarp wrote:

      You ran to your father whenever you needed money?

      Didn't have to. I had Grandfather's trustfund until I was 25, by which time I was earning a good living.

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      • L Lost User

        Write a book about how shitty life can be. Then get it made into a film?

        Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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        Oakman
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        fat_boy wrote:

        Write a book about how sh***y life can be.

        The title of which would be: "It's Everybody Else's Fault!"

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        • O Oakman

          CaptainSeeSarp wrote:

          I'm not going to correct you in this case...

          You can't. I was right.

          CaptainSeeSarp wrote:

          Also he isn't the type of person to give me money.

          He gave you housing.

          CaptainSeeSarp wrote:

          I am fine, and I will be fine as always.

          If you were telling the truth, something I have grave doubts about, you are not fine. You are in deep shit that's about to get deeper.

          CaptainSeeSarp wrote:

          You ran to your father whenever you needed money?

          Didn't have to. I had Grandfather's trustfund until I was 25, by which time I was earning a good living.

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          CaptainSeeSarp
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          Oakman wrote:

          Didn't have to. I had Grandfather's trustfund until I was 25, by which time I was earning a good living.

          I see, so you rode on the back of your grandfather's hard earned money until you were 25. Gotcha.

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          • C CaptainSeeSarp

            Oakman wrote:

            Didn't have to. I had Grandfather's trustfund until I was 25, by which time I was earning a good living.

            I see, so you rode on the back of your grandfather's hard earned money until you were 25. Gotcha.

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            CaptainSeeSarp wrote:

            I see, so you rode on the back of your grandfather's hard earned money until you were 25.

            Sounds like you're a wee bit jealous. I don't know how hard it was to earn. He was EVP of New York Central and pretty much sat around in his large office in Grand Central Station all day. But yes, I had a cushion until I was 25. I was able not to touch it while I was in the service, so it was a pretty nice cushion when I got out. A year later I was running a company for someone else and two years after that I was running my own company. You think perhaps I don't know what it's like to be a druggie sucking at Uncle Sugar's tit and stealing food while working as a short order cook? Fucking A, I don't.

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            • S Stan Shannon

              73Zeppelin wrote:

              Oh, now you're a willing socialist? TRAITOR!

              Oh, believe me, I will be resisting in every possible effective manner available to me.

              Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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              Sahir Shah
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              helping the poor isn't essentially a bad thing. If you are a religious man take guidance from the following : "Now when Jesus heard these things, he said unto him, Yet lackest thou one thing: sell all that thou hast, and distribute unto the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, follow me"

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                helping the poor isn't essentially a bad thing. If you are a religious man take guidance from the following : "Now when Jesus heard these things, he said unto him, Yet lackest thou one thing: sell all that thou hast, and distribute unto the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, follow me"

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                Stan Shannon
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                Sahir Shah wrote:

                helping the poor isn't essentially a bad thing. :

                No one said it was.

                Sahir Shah wrote:

                "Now when Jesus heard these things, he said unto him, Yet lackest thou one thing: sell all that thou hast, and distribute unto the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, follow me"

                Yes, but Jesus' concern was for the rich man's soul, not the poor man's worldly affairs. And Jesus never said - give all your money to the government so that the government can help the poor. Christians do not need lectures in charity by the way. We are far more generous than muslims are.

                Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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                  Sahir Shah wrote:

                  helping the poor isn't essentially a bad thing. :

                  No one said it was.

                  Sahir Shah wrote:

                  "Now when Jesus heard these things, he said unto him, Yet lackest thou one thing: sell all that thou hast, and distribute unto the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, follow me"

                  Yes, but Jesus' concern was for the rich man's soul, not the poor man's worldly affairs. And Jesus never said - give all your money to the government so that the government can help the poor. Christians do not need lectures in charity by the way. We are far more generous than muslims are.

                  Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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                  Adnan Siddiqi
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                  Stan Shannon wrote:

                  We are far more generous than muslims are.

                  yeah yeah, referring Muslims clearly depicts why did you refer them. :rolleyes:

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                  • S Stan Shannon

                    Sahir Shah wrote:

                    helping the poor isn't essentially a bad thing. :

                    No one said it was.

                    Sahir Shah wrote:

                    "Now when Jesus heard these things, he said unto him, Yet lackest thou one thing: sell all that thou hast, and distribute unto the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, follow me"

                    Yes, but Jesus' concern was for the rich man's soul, not the poor man's worldly affairs. And Jesus never said - give all your money to the government so that the government can help the poor. Christians do not need lectures in charity by the way. We are far more generous than muslims are.

                    Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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                    Sahir Shah
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                    Stan Shannon wrote:

                    Christians do not need lectures in charity by the way. We are far more generous than muslims are.

                    I didn't get that. You are a muslim ? You seem to be a bad one then. Doesn't your religion tell you to have compassion for the poor ?

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                    • S Stan Shannon

                      Sahir Shah wrote:

                      helping the poor isn't essentially a bad thing. :

                      No one said it was.

                      Sahir Shah wrote:

                      "Now when Jesus heard these things, he said unto him, Yet lackest thou one thing: sell all that thou hast, and distribute unto the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, follow me"

                      Yes, but Jesus' concern was for the rich man's soul, not the poor man's worldly affairs. And Jesus never said - give all your money to the government so that the government can help the poor. Christians do not need lectures in charity by the way. We are far more generous than muslims are.

                      Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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                      Stan Shannon wrote:

                      Christians do not need lectures in charity by the way. We are far more generous than muslims are.

                      When did you become a Christian?

                      Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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                      • S Sahir Shah

                        Stan Shannon wrote:

                        Christians do not need lectures in charity by the way. We are far more generous than muslims are.

                        I didn't get that. You are a muslim ? You seem to be a bad one then. Doesn't your religion tell you to have compassion for the poor ?

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                        Stan Shannon
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                        Sahir Shah wrote:

                        You are a muslim ?

                        No.

                        Sahir Shah wrote:

                        Doesn't your religion tell you to have compassion for the poor ?

                        My religion is not of this world, but of the next.

                        Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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                        • O Oakman

                          Stan Shannon wrote:

                          Christians do not need lectures in charity by the way. We are far more generous than muslims are.

                          When did you become a Christian?

                          Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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                          Sahir Shah
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                          Oakman wrote:

                          When did you become a Christian?

                          You are getting things mixed up. He is a muslim. Kindly do not introduce confusion to a serious discussion Oakman.

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                            Oakman wrote:

                            When did you become a Christian?

                            You are getting things mixed up. He is a muslim. Kindly do not introduce confusion to a serious discussion Oakman.

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                            Sahir Shah wrote:

                            You are getting things mixed up. He is a muslim. Kindly do not introduce confusion to a serious discussion Oakman.

                            Y'know I've accused Stan of many things, up to and including mopery and dopery. But never of being a Muslim. You have a great imagination.

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                            • S Stan Shannon

                              Sahir Shah wrote:

                              You are a muslim ?

                              No.

                              Sahir Shah wrote:

                              Doesn't your religion tell you to have compassion for the poor ?

                              My religion is not of this world, but of the next.

                              Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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                              Stan Shannon wrote:

                              My religion is not of this world, but of the next.

                              What's he on about???? Ah, I get it. You mean you do evil deeds in this world and then go and do good deeds in the next?? Ahh! Very good idea, but, I am not sure if you will get any time to do any good deeds. You are going to be kinda busy with that guy with the horns and the tail chasing you all over the place prodding you in the backside with his trident. Most unpleasant. Ask, Ilion; he has been there already, but Satan kinda got fed up of him and kicked him out of hell, so, he woke up after having a near death experience and with no memory of having been chased around by a horny devil.

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                              • S Sahir Shah

                                Oakman wrote:

                                When did you become a Christian?

                                You are getting things mixed up. He is a muslim. Kindly do not introduce confusion to a serious discussion Oakman.

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                                I nearly fell off my chair when you said Stan was a Muslim. Stan and Islam could not be further apart.

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                                  I nearly fell off my chair when you said Stan was a Muslim. Stan and Islam could not be further apart.

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                                  Sahir Shah
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                                  Richard A. Abbott wrote:

                                  Stan and Islam could not be further apart.

                                  So, he is not a muslin? Hokay! I understand! But he seems to be a sinner of some sort.

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                                  • S Sahir Shah

                                    Richard A. Abbott wrote:

                                    Stan and Islam could not be further apart.

                                    So, he is not a muslin? Hokay! I understand! But he seems to be a sinner of some sort.

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                                    Sahir Shah wrote:

                                    But he seems to be a sinner of some sort

                                    I think we are all guilty of that from time to time, and some more frequently than others, and some more gravely than others.

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                                    • C CaptainSeeSarp

                                      I would like to keep this thread fairly respectful. I'm not here to start a flame war. You are living in a dump with your family with no utilities whatsoever. You get electricity from your vehicle, water and food from the store, and you have a two burner portable propane stove. Your mother died of an overdose of morphine so you want to leave this house. You have been evicted and sued due to an argument with the landlady that ended with you cursing her out. You have several small animals to take care of.. Also you are mostly responsible for your little brother who is also autistic. What do you do?

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                                      Christian Graus
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                                      Damn - that's messed up, I'm sorry. If you've been evicted, then you can leave, right ? In fact, you have to, that's what evicted means. I'd look to pass the animals on to friends for safe keeping, and focus on finding a job and a place to live where I could look after my brother. That's really tough, how do you look after him AND work ? I'd also be looking for support groups or other means to help and provide advice as far as the best care for someone who is autistic is concerned. I guess it depends how severe the autism is, and how much assistance he needs.

                                      Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. "Iam doing the browsing center project in vb.net using c# coding" - this is why I don't answer questions much anymore. Oh, and Microsoft doesn't want me to.

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                                        Damn - that's messed up, I'm sorry. If you've been evicted, then you can leave, right ? In fact, you have to, that's what evicted means. I'd look to pass the animals on to friends for safe keeping, and focus on finding a job and a place to live where I could look after my brother. That's really tough, how do you look after him AND work ? I'd also be looking for support groups or other means to help and provide advice as far as the best care for someone who is autistic is concerned. I guess it depends how severe the autism is, and how much assistance he needs.

                                        Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. "Iam doing the browsing center project in vb.net using c# coding" - this is why I don't answer questions much anymore. Oh, and Microsoft doesn't want me to.

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                                        CaptainSeeSarp
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                                        He is about as autistic as I am. It runs in the family. He is fine alone but he cannot live by himself. He needs someone to handle business.

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                                          Sahir Shah wrote:

                                          But he seems to be a sinner of some sort

                                          I think we are all guilty of that from time to time, and some more frequently than others, and some more gravely than others.

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                                          Richard A. Abbott wrote:

                                          some more gravely than others.

                                          You mean like when Stan agrees with Ilion? ;)

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