What would you do in this situation?
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Richard A. Abbott wrote:
some more gravely than others.
You mean like when Stan agrees with Ilion? ;)
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When I commented, I wasn't even thinking of Ilion, and I prefer not to think of Ilion. Sometimes Stan does agree with Ilion, but at least with Stan, he has the decency to discuss an issue, he thinks about his replies, sometimes going into reasonable depth, without ever causing unnecessary offence. And being the same age as me (birthdays separated by a few days - you may even have been his baby-sitter ;P ) he has, like you, attended the University of Life.
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So what are you complaining about?
Nothing.
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When I commented, I wasn't even thinking of Ilion, and I prefer not to think of Ilion. Sometimes Stan does agree with Ilion, but at least with Stan, he has the decency to discuss an issue, he thinks about his replies, sometimes going into reasonable depth, without ever causing unnecessary offence. And being the same age as me (birthdays separated by a few days - you may even have been his baby-sitter ;P ) he has, like you, attended the University of Life.
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Nothing.
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Stan Shannon wrote:
My religion is not of this world, but of the next.
What's he on about???? Ah, I get it. You mean you do evil deeds in this world and then go and do good deeds in the next?? Ahh! Very good idea, but, I am not sure if you will get any time to do any good deeds. You are going to be kinda busy with that guy with the horns and the tail chasing you all over the place prodding you in the backside with his trident. Most unpleasant. Ask, Ilion; he has been there already, but Satan kinda got fed up of him and kicked him out of hell, so, he woke up after having a near death experience and with no memory of having been chased around by a horny devil.
No, it means that salvation does not come from good deeds in this world. It comes from the grace of Christ. And that alone. Any eartly pursuit that gets in the way of receiving that should be eliminated from your life.
Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.
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No, it means that salvation does not come from good deeds in this world. It comes from the grace of Christ. And that alone. Any eartly pursuit that gets in the way of receiving that should be eliminated from your life.
Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.
The synoptic gospels can't seem to come to a consensus. For examples, see: Matthew 16.27 "For the Son of Man will come in the glory of His Father with His angels, and then He will reward each according to his works." vs John 3:36 "He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life." Mark 16:16 "He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved." But I'm sure that however you choose to interpret those passages your interpretation turns out to be the "correct" one - you just have to interpret the bible in the "correct" way. OH GEE IT ALL MAKES SENSE WHEN YOU INTERPRET SOME THINGS AS BEING COMPLETELY LITERAL AND OTHERS AS BEING SYMBOLIC. :rolleyes:
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No, it means that salvation does not come from good deeds in this world. It comes from the grace of Christ. And that alone. Any eartly pursuit that gets in the way of receiving that should be eliminated from your life.
Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.
Stan Shannon wrote:
No, it means that salvation does not come from good deeds in this world. It comes from the grace of Christ. And that alone. Any eartly pursuit that gets in the way of receiving that should be eliminated from your life.
You don't get His grace if He don't like you. P.S. You are truly amazing. You make an established religion look like some bizarre cult. I am not sure if you really mean all this. This must be some kind of joke, if it isn't, I feel sorry for you.
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Get off the drugs, apply for social assistance in order to get a mailing address and then get a paying job doing whatever you can get to earn money, get off social assistance and be independent. Then work your way up to more through suffering, hard work, toil and sweat. Money doesn't fall in your pocket - you have to work (hard) for it. You know, basically the same thing that people have been telling you since you started posting these cries for help...
You make the presumption that anybody is able to work and earn money, whatever the problems one can suffer. In the RealWordTM, not anybody is able to do so and can be psychologically unfit to organize oneself/deal with the working stress/ deal with hierarchy/deal with other workers/etc... The psychological distress is too often negated, especially by self confident people who cannot understand why the others aren't like they are.
Where do you expect us to go when the bombs fall? Fold with us! ¤ flickr
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Stan Shannon wrote:
No, it means that salvation does not come from good deeds in this world. It comes from the grace of Christ. And that alone. Any eartly pursuit that gets in the way of receiving that should be eliminated from your life.
You don't get His grace if He don't like you. P.S. You are truly amazing. You make an established religion look like some bizarre cult. I am not sure if you really mean all this. This must be some kind of joke, if it isn't, I feel sorry for you.
Sahir Shah wrote:
You don't get His grace if He don't like you.
No, all you need do is ask for it.
Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.
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The synoptic gospels can't seem to come to a consensus. For examples, see: Matthew 16.27 "For the Son of Man will come in the glory of His Father with His angels, and then He will reward each according to his works." vs John 3:36 "He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life." Mark 16:16 "He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved." But I'm sure that however you choose to interpret those passages your interpretation turns out to be the "correct" one - you just have to interpret the bible in the "correct" way. OH GEE IT ALL MAKES SENSE WHEN YOU INTERPRET SOME THINGS AS BEING COMPLETELY LITERAL AND OTHERS AS BEING SYMBOLIC. :rolleyes:
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The truth is out there...
Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.
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I would like to keep this thread fairly respectful. I'm not here to start a flame war. You are living in a dump with your family with no utilities whatsoever. You get electricity from your vehicle, water and food from the store, and you have a two burner portable propane stove. Your mother died of an overdose of morphine so you want to leave this house. You have been evicted and sued due to an argument with the landlady that ended with you cursing her out. You have several small animals to take care of.. Also you are mostly responsible for your little brother who is also autistic. What do you do?
There's no shame to ask for help when in need. With such a background of violence and instability, I would tend also to think about counseling.
Jouir et faire jouir sans faire de mal ni à toi ni à personne, voilà je crois le fondement de toute morale Fold with us! ¤ flickr
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You make the presumption that anybody is able to work and earn money, whatever the problems one can suffer. In the RealWordTM, not anybody is able to do so and can be psychologically unfit to organize oneself/deal with the working stress/ deal with hierarchy/deal with other workers/etc... The psychological distress is too often negated, especially by self confident people who cannot understand why the others aren't like they are.
Where do you expect us to go when the bombs fall? Fold with us! ¤ flickr
Ka?l wrote:
In the RealWordTM, not anybody is able to do so and can be psychologically unfit to organize oneself/deal with the working stress/ deal with hierarchy/deal with other workers/etc...
Well, we just need to instantiate some breeding restrictions until that is no longer the case.
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface
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Sahir Shah wrote:
You don't get His grace if He don't like you.
No, all you need do is ask for it.
Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.
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Stan Shannon wrote:
No, all you need do is ask for it.
Are you a Christian, Stan? Do you believe in the tripartite God?
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Oakman wrote:
Are you a Christian, Stan? Do you believe in the tripartite God?
Sure, why not?
Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.
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Ka?l wrote:
In the RealWordTM, not anybody is able to do so and can be psychologically unfit to organize oneself/deal with the working stress/ deal with hierarchy/deal with other workers/etc...
Well, we just need to instantiate some breeding restrictions until that is no longer the case.
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface
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Who decides what are the restrictions and who is restricted?
When they kick at your front door How you gonna come? With your hands on your head Or on the trigger of your gun?
Ka?l wrote:
Who decides what are the restrictions and who is restricted
Well, it appeared that you were able to tell those folks who are psychologically unable to work for a living - so I guess you do.
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