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  • K KaRl

    GWB can't stop himself attacking countries. This week end the US committed another act of war against a new country, this time Syria[^]. I think that now anybody will understand the reason why Iran wants to have nukes.

    Sie wollen mein Herz am rechten Fleck, doch Seh' ich dann nach unten weg Da schlägt es links!

    Fold with us! ¤ flickr

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    Oakman
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    Ka?l wrote:

    I think that now anybody will understand the reason why Iran wants to have nukes.

    So the US will attack it with nukes? I think you are forgetting that your hero, Ahmadinejad, says he doesn't want nukes, just more electric power.

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    • K KaRl

      GWB can't stop himself attacking countries. This week end the US committed another act of war against a new country, this time Syria[^]. I think that now anybody will understand the reason why Iran wants to have nukes.

      Sie wollen mein Herz am rechten Fleck, doch Seh' ich dann nach unten weg Da schlägt es links!

      Fold with us! ¤ flickr

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      Stan Shannon
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      Ka?l wrote:

      This week end the US committed another act of war against a new country, this time Syria[^].

      Good. Its about damn time.

      Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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        Ka?l wrote:

        I think that now anybody will understand the reason why Iran wants to have nukes.

        So the US will attack it with nukes? I think you are forgetting that your hero, Ahmadinejad, says he doesn't want nukes, just more electric power.

        Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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        KaRl
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        Oakman wrote:

        So the US will attack it with nukes?

        When two countries have nukes, generally they don't attack each other. My hero? You're drunk that early? Ahmadinejad is not the leader of Iran, he's just a puppet used for the medias.

        When they kick at your front door How you gonna come? With your hands on your head Or on the trigger of your gun?

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          Ka?l wrote:

          This week end the US committed another act of war against a new country, this time Syria[^].

          Good. Its about damn time.

          Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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          KaRl
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          So long the fiction of moral ground for the US to summon Russia it was bad to attack Georgia - Do as I say, not as I do...

          When the pitcher falls upon the stone, woe unto the pitcher, when the stone falls upon the pitcher, woe unto the pitcher : whatever befalls, woe unto the pitcher

          Fold with us! ¤ flickr

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          • K KaRl

            So long the fiction of moral ground for the US to summon Russia it was bad to attack Georgia - Do as I say, not as I do...

            When the pitcher falls upon the stone, woe unto the pitcher, when the stone falls upon the pitcher, woe unto the pitcher : whatever befalls, woe unto the pitcher

            Fold with us! ¤ flickr

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            Stan Shannon
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            Ka?l wrote:

            So long the fiction of moral ground for the US to summon Russia it was bad to attack Georgia - Do as I say, not as I do...

            Except that we are the good guys and they aren't. Basically, we own the moral high ground and intend to kill anyone that doesn't like it. So, fuck off...

            Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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            • K KaRl

              GWB can't stop himself attacking countries. This week end the US committed another act of war against a new country, this time Syria[^]. I think that now anybody will understand the reason why Iran wants to have nukes.

              Sie wollen mein Herz am rechten Fleck, doch Seh' ich dann nach unten weg Da schlägt es links!

              Fold with us! ¤ flickr

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              Rob Graham
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              Ka?l wrote:

              anybody will understand the reason why Iran wants to have nukes.

              Everyone already understands that they want nukes so they can destroy Israel without fear of retaliation by the US. Glad to see you've finally abandoned the fiction that they just want nuclear energy for electricity.

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              • K KaRl

                Oakman wrote:

                So the US will attack it with nukes?

                When two countries have nukes, generally they don't attack each other. My hero? You're drunk that early? Ahmadinejad is not the leader of Iran, he's just a puppet used for the medias.

                When they kick at your front door How you gonna come? With your hands on your head Or on the trigger of your gun?

                Fold with us! ¤ flickr

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                Oakman
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                Ka?l wrote:

                My hero? You're drunk that early?

                But you and he agree on almost everything. Especially about the U.S.

                Ka?l wrote:

                When two countries have nukes, generally they don't attack each other.

                If Ahmadinejad develops nukes, it will not cow the U.S. However it will make Iran a target in the case that any terrorist group explodes a nuclear device in the U.S. On the other hand, for Iran to have developed nukes, It will have to have survived an all-out attack by Israel - including a nuclear option, backed by the U.S. Although this may be hard for you to understand, the U.S. is trying to avoid a nuclear war between Israel and Iran - not a nuclear war between the U.S. and Iran.

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                  Ka?l wrote:

                  So long the fiction of moral ground for the US to summon Russia it was bad to attack Georgia - Do as I say, not as I do...

                  Except that we are the good guys and they aren't. Basically, we own the moral high ground and intend to kill anyone that doesn't like it. So, fuck off...

                  Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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                  KaRl
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                  Stan Shannon wrote:

                  Except that we are the good guys and they aren't. Basically, we own the moral high ground and intend to kill anyone that doesn't like it. So, f*** off.

                  :laugh: - Looks like a western movie, the John Wayne's way, entitled to slaughter the bad Indians who dare to attack the gentle WASP.

                  When they kick at your front door How you gonna come? With your hands on your head Or on the trigger of your gun?

                  Fold with us! ¤ flickr

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                    Ka?l wrote:

                    anybody will understand the reason why Iran wants to have nukes.

                    Everyone already understands that they want nukes so they can destroy Israel without fear of retaliation by the US. Glad to see you've finally abandoned the fiction that they just want nuclear energy for electricity.

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                    KaRl
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                    Rob Graham wrote:

                    they want nukes so they can destroy Israel without fear of retaliation by the US

                    Israel has over 200 nukes - What should they need the US to protect them?

                    When they kick at your front door How you gonna come? With your hands on your head Or on the trigger of your gun?

                    Fold with us! ¤ flickr

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                    • O Oakman

                      Ka?l wrote:

                      My hero? You're drunk that early?

                      But you and he agree on almost everything. Especially about the U.S.

                      Ka?l wrote:

                      When two countries have nukes, generally they don't attack each other.

                      If Ahmadinejad develops nukes, it will not cow the U.S. However it will make Iran a target in the case that any terrorist group explodes a nuclear device in the U.S. On the other hand, for Iran to have developed nukes, It will have to have survived an all-out attack by Israel - including a nuclear option, backed by the U.S. Although this may be hard for you to understand, the U.S. is trying to avoid a nuclear war between Israel and Iran - not a nuclear war between the U.S. and Iran.

                      Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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                      KaRl
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                      Oakman wrote:

                      But you and he agree on almost everything. Especially about the U.S.

                      Now that's for sure, you're drunk. Or living in a fairy tale with Peter Pan and Marry Poppins. Whatever, you should really, really, take your pills.

                      Oakman wrote:

                      However it will make Iran a target in the case that any terrorist group explodes a nuclear device in the U.S.

                      I make a bet, the first nuclear bomb to explode in the US will be from North Korea. I even wonder if the bomb is not already hidden somewhere.

                      Oakman wrote:

                      the U.S. is trying to avoid a nuclear war between Israel and Iran

                      No, the US is trying to be sure Israel has the military supremacy in the region.

                      Patriotism is when love of your own people comes first; nationalism, when hate for people other than your own comes first Fold with us! ¤ flickr

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                      • S Stan Shannon

                        Ka?l wrote:

                        So long the fiction of moral ground for the US to summon Russia it was bad to attack Georgia - Do as I say, not as I do...

                        Except that we are the good guys and they aren't. Basically, we own the moral high ground and intend to kill anyone that doesn't like it. So, fuck off...

                        Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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                        Johnny
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                        Stan Shannon wrote:

                        Except that we are the good guys and they aren't. Basically, we own the moral high ground

                        And from your signature:

                        Stan Shannon wrote:

                        Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys

                        Curious

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                        • K KaRl

                          Oakman wrote:

                          But you and he agree on almost everything. Especially about the U.S.

                          Now that's for sure, you're drunk. Or living in a fairy tale with Peter Pan and Marry Poppins. Whatever, you should really, really, take your pills.

                          Oakman wrote:

                          However it will make Iran a target in the case that any terrorist group explodes a nuclear device in the U.S.

                          I make a bet, the first nuclear bomb to explode in the US will be from North Korea. I even wonder if the bomb is not already hidden somewhere.

                          Oakman wrote:

                          the U.S. is trying to avoid a nuclear war between Israel and Iran

                          No, the US is trying to be sure Israel has the military supremacy in the region.

                          Patriotism is when love of your own people comes first; nationalism, when hate for people other than your own comes first Fold with us! ¤ flickr

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                          keyboard warrior
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                          Ka?l wrote:

                          No, the US is trying to be sure Israel has the military supremacy in the region.

                          well we are just good at picking the right people for friends. and this group in particular is one set of badasses.

                          Ka?l wrote:

                          Now that's for sure, you're drunk. Or living in a fairy tale with Peter Pan and Marry Poppins. Whatever, you should really, really, take your pills.

                          grow up.

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                          • K KaRl

                            Rob Graham wrote:

                            they want nukes so they can destroy Israel without fear of retaliation by the US

                            Israel has over 200 nukes - What should they need the US to protect them?

                            When they kick at your front door How you gonna come? With your hands on your head Or on the trigger of your gun?

                            Fold with us! ¤ flickr

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                            keyboard warrior
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                            Ka?l wrote:

                            Israel has over 200 nukes - What should they need the US to protect them?

                            "we all need somebody to lean on." - Bill Withers

                            ----------------------------------------------------------- "When I first saw it, I just thought that you really, really enjoyed programming in java." - Leslie Sanford

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                            • K keyboard warrior

                              Ka?l wrote:

                              No, the US is trying to be sure Israel has the military supremacy in the region.

                              well we are just good at picking the right people for friends. and this group in particular is one set of badasses.

                              Ka?l wrote:

                              Now that's for sure, you're drunk. Or living in a fairy tale with Peter Pan and Marry Poppins. Whatever, you should really, really, take your pills.

                              grow up.

                              ----------------------------------------------------------- "When I first saw it, I just thought that you really, really enjoyed programming in java." - Leslie Sanford

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                              Oakman
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                              jgasm wrote:

                              well we are just good at picking the right people for friends.

                              Sometimes anyway

                              jgasm wrote:

                              grow up.

                              Couldn't have said it better myself ;)

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                              • R Rob Graham

                                Ka?l wrote:

                                anybody will understand the reason why Iran wants to have nukes.

                                Everyone already understands that they want nukes so they can destroy Israel without fear of retaliation by the US. Glad to see you've finally abandoned the fiction that they just want nuclear energy for electricity.

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                                John Carson
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                                Rob Graham wrote:

                                Everyone already understands that they want nukes so they can destroy Israel without fear of retaliation by the US.

                                :confused: So you think that if Iran had nukes and destroyed Israel (using nukes?), the US wouldn't retaliate??!!

                                John Carson

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                                • K KaRl

                                  Stan Shannon wrote:

                                  Except that we are the good guys and they aren't. Basically, we own the moral high ground and intend to kill anyone that doesn't like it. So, f*** off.

                                  :laugh: - Looks like a western movie, the John Wayne's way, entitled to slaughter the bad Indians who dare to attack the gentle WASP.

                                  When they kick at your front door How you gonna come? With your hands on your head Or on the trigger of your gun?

                                  Fold with us! ¤ flickr

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                                  Oakman
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                                  Ka?l wrote:

                                  Looks like a western movie, the John Wayne's way, entitled to slaughter the bad Indians who dare to attack the gentle WASP.

                                  That's about right. You would prefer the WASPs to throw down their guns and surrender to the tender mercies of the Indians? That only happened with the French settlers.

                                  Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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                                    Stan Shannon wrote:

                                    Except that we are the good guys and they aren't. Basically, we own the moral high ground

                                    And from your signature:

                                    Stan Shannon wrote:

                                    Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys

                                    Curious

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                                    Le centriste
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                                    Good catch :-D

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                                      Rob Graham wrote:

                                      Everyone already understands that they want nukes so they can destroy Israel without fear of retaliation by the US.

                                      :confused: So you think that if Iran had nukes and destroyed Israel (using nukes?), the US wouldn't retaliate??!!

                                      John Carson

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                                      Rob Graham
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                                      No, I don't think the US would hesitate. I do think  Amanediejad and his superiors think (wrongly) that it would give the US pause if Iran had Nukes.

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                                      • O Oakman

                                        Ka?l wrote:

                                        Looks like a western movie, the John Wayne's way, entitled to slaughter the bad Indians who dare to attack the gentle WASP.

                                        That's about right. You would prefer the WASPs to throw down their guns and surrender to the tender mercies of the Indians? That only happened with the French settlers.

                                        Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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                                        Paul Conrad
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                                        Don't forget about the French surrendering to Germany in WWII as well.

                                        "The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon "Not only do you continue to babble nonsense, you can't even correctly remember the nonsense you babbled just minutes ago." - Rob Graham

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                                        • R Rob Graham

                                          Ka?l wrote:

                                          anybody will understand the reason why Iran wants to have nukes.

                                          Everyone already understands that they want nukes so they can destroy Israel without fear of retaliation by the US. Glad to see you've finally abandoned the fiction that they just want nuclear energy for electricity.

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                                          Le centriste
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                                          Everybody lies. For instance, Bush lied on the reasons why they attacked Iraq, while everybody knew it was for oil.

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