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  • W werD

    Hands down best deal for your money right now is the 512MB Nvidia 8800 GT(not the gts.. the GT) This card beats out pretty much every 8 series card and a lot of the newer 9 series as well. It doesn't even flinch when using flip 3d WHILE playing games like crysis on their highest settings. Here's the kicker you can get this card for 149$ from a few different places right now and it will easily scale to 2 or 3 way sli when you finally decide to spend that extra 70-150$ for a worthwhile MB. I went through this dilemma about 6 months back when i built my latest beast of a dev box. I poured through benchmarks/reviews online as I do for most of my hardware purchases. I couldn't find a bad review on this card, and will vouch for its performance any day of the week.

    DrewG, MCSD .Net

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    Nelviticus
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    Hmm, six months back the 8800GT was the card to go for but now ATI has brought out its 4800 series, including the 4850 which is much more powerful than nVidia's 8800GT. An nVidia 8800GT will be more than up to the job, but for the same money you can now get a newer, faster card.

    Regards Nelviticus

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    • S Steve McLenithan

      You can't possibly be serious... Comparing your manufacturer's proprietary laptop boards to a desktop card is apples and oranges my friend. Gaming laptops usually have horrible problems with cooling as well. Besides, BFG and several other nVidia manufacturers have lifetime warranties on their cards.

      // Steve McLenithan

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      Chipset was NVIDIA GeForce 8600M (Dedicated GDDR3 256MB video memory) [^] See following filing if you don't believe me: http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1045810/000119312508145974/d8k.htm[^] Here is some more reference: http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080716-nvidia-denies-rumors-of-mass-gpu-failures.html[^]

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      • S Scott Barbour

        A game that I play frequently has better graphics when used with a decent video card. Lately, the numbers don't mean crap anymore and a higher chipset number may not be a better card. This is the recommended configuration for the premium graphics client: 256MB GeForce 7950 or higher, ATi Radeon X1900 or higher and Similar chips from other manufacturers I'm hoping the jolly fat man, or someone else, brings me something that matches that. I'm not looking for something at the top end of the spectrum, just something that's a little better than the requirements but without breaking the bank (Less than $200). My requirements: PCI Express, VGA output. The motherboard I have only provides PCIe x8 (but according to the PCIe specs, PCIe x16 devices will work, only at half the throughput. A different MB will be something for another day. Any suggestions? [edit: Is this my 15 minutes of fame? Being one of the linked topics in the daily newsletter? :)]

        I don't claim to be a know it all, for I know that I am not...

        I usually have an answer though.

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        n41ng
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        Check out the ATI HD4830 should be at least the same as a 8800GT/9800GT or better. They are about $130 I think. Watch out for inconsistent shader count problems with that GPU though.

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        • S Scott Barbour

          A game that I play frequently has better graphics when used with a decent video card. Lately, the numbers don't mean crap anymore and a higher chipset number may not be a better card. This is the recommended configuration for the premium graphics client: 256MB GeForce 7950 or higher, ATi Radeon X1900 or higher and Similar chips from other manufacturers I'm hoping the jolly fat man, or someone else, brings me something that matches that. I'm not looking for something at the top end of the spectrum, just something that's a little better than the requirements but without breaking the bank (Less than $200). My requirements: PCI Express, VGA output. The motherboard I have only provides PCIe x8 (but according to the PCIe specs, PCIe x16 devices will work, only at half the throughput. A different MB will be something for another day. Any suggestions? [edit: Is this my 15 minutes of fame? Being one of the linked topics in the daily newsletter? :)]

          I don't claim to be a know it all, for I know that I am not...

          I usually have an answer though.

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          alxtraxxx
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          Go for the HIS ICEQ4 HD4850 if you want a very good performing card that keeps at 65°C max under load and that is as silent as active cooling can be ;)

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          • S Steve McLenithan

            You can't possibly be serious... Comparing your manufacturer's proprietary laptop boards to a desktop card is apples and oranges my friend. Gaming laptops usually have horrible problems with cooling as well. Besides, BFG and several other nVidia manufacturers have lifetime warranties on their cards.

            // Steve McLenithan

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            Jorgen Andersson
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            Steve McLenithan wrote:

            Besides, BFG and several other nVidia manufacturers have lifetime warranties on their cards.

            What lifetime are they specifying on the cards?

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            • S Steve McLenithan

              You can't possibly be serious... Comparing your manufacturer's proprietary laptop boards to a desktop card is apples and oranges my friend. Gaming laptops usually have horrible problems with cooling as well. Besides, BFG and several other nVidia manufacturers have lifetime warranties on their cards.

              // Steve McLenithan

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              Dan Neely
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              He's half right, NV does have(had?) a manufacturing problem with their laptop cards but the desktop ones haven't been affected outside of paranoid delusions from the inquirer (whose video card stories are more biased than ATI press releases :rolleyes: ). The prime suspect is weak solder joints and insufficiently rigid PCBs flexing until the balls break.

              Today's lesson is brought to you by the word "niggardly". Remember kids, don't attribute to racism what can be explained by Scandinavian language roots. -- Robert Royall

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                Hmm, six months back the 8800GT was the card to go for but now ATI has brought out its 4800 series, including the 4850 which is much more powerful than nVidia's 8800GT. An nVidia 8800GT will be more than up to the job, but for the same money you can now get a newer, faster card.

                Regards Nelviticus

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                You can find the 8800GT for $100ish, the 4850 is $150ish. ATI had a big bang for the buck edge when the 4800 series first came out but NVidia dropped their prices enough that it's not there anymore.

                Today's lesson is brought to you by the word "niggardly". Remember kids, don't attribute to racism what can be explained by Scandinavian language roots. -- Robert Royall

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                • E Ed Poore

                  I've got a nVidia 8800GTS (320MB)[^] and run's two 22" monitors quite happily, was playing San Andreas while watching a movie no trouble at all.   If you're wanting to stay under $200 you can probably upgrade to the ones with more memory (512MB etc) (when I bought it it was about £300 so ~$600 at the time).  It runs on x8 sockets as far as I know (if you're running in SLI for example) but I've got mine plugged into one of the two x16 slots so can't comment. The output is DVI but D-SUB -> DVI converters are a couple of bucks (as you americans would say) so no problem there.

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                  Ed.Poore wrote:

                  The output is DVI but D-SUB -> DVI converters are a couple of bucks (as you americans would say) so no problem there.

                  Your card didn't come with them bundled with it? Every US DVI card I've seen has included at least one adapter, some are starting to add a DVI-HDMI adapter as well now.

                  Today's lesson is brought to you by the word "niggardly". Remember kids, don't attribute to racism what can be explained by Scandinavian language roots. -- Robert Royall

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                  • S Scott Barbour

                    A game that I play frequently has better graphics when used with a decent video card. Lately, the numbers don't mean crap anymore and a higher chipset number may not be a better card. This is the recommended configuration for the premium graphics client: 256MB GeForce 7950 or higher, ATi Radeon X1900 or higher and Similar chips from other manufacturers I'm hoping the jolly fat man, or someone else, brings me something that matches that. I'm not looking for something at the top end of the spectrum, just something that's a little better than the requirements but without breaking the bank (Less than $200). My requirements: PCI Express, VGA output. The motherboard I have only provides PCIe x8 (but according to the PCIe specs, PCIe x16 devices will work, only at half the throughput. A different MB will be something for another day. Any suggestions? [edit: Is this my 15 minutes of fame? Being one of the linked topics in the daily newsletter? :)]

                    I don't claim to be a know it all, for I know that I am not...

                    I usually have an answer though.

                    modified on Tuesday, October 28, 2008 1:40 PM

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                    I have an 8600 GT (or GTS). Great bang for the buck. I paid ~175 in April so I expect you can get them for less now. Check it out at www.newegg.com (no affiliation). Also, there are several brands that sell essentially the same base GPU at different prices. They usually have different clock speeds, warranties, reliability so it is important to compare the specs and read reviews to find the best deal.

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                    • R Robert Surtees

                      ATI 4850 is a great card for the money. ~$180 And make sure your power supply is up to the task whatever you buy. Some of these cards use a gazillion or so watt power supply to run.

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                      I know you said you want to keep it under $200 so I have to also vote for the ATI 4850. I've always run ATI in my gaming machines. Currently I'm running two 4850's in crossfire and can crank most games to their max in graphic out put :D

                      S.Nowlin ----------------------- I'm a Techwriter Monkey -- handy, just less useful than the Bathroom Monkey.

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                      • R rts Dallas

                        I have an 8600 GT (or GTS). Great bang for the buck. I paid ~175 in April so I expect you can get them for less now. Check it out at www.newegg.com (no affiliation). Also, there are several brands that sell essentially the same base GPU at different prices. They usually have different clock speeds, warranties, reliability so it is important to compare the specs and read reviews to find the best deal.

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                        The 8600 is down to around $60-70, the 8800GT-512 is easily twice as fast (below 2560x1600 it outperformed the $500 8800GTX-768) and only costs $100ish now.

                        Today's lesson is brought to you by the word "niggardly". Remember kids, don't attribute to racism what can be explained by Scandinavian language roots. -- Robert Royall

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                          You can find the 8800GT for $100ish, the 4850 is $150ish. ATI had a big bang for the buck edge when the 4800 series first came out but NVidia dropped their prices enough that it's not there anymore.

                          Today's lesson is brought to you by the word "niggardly". Remember kids, don't attribute to racism what can be explained by Scandinavian language roots. -- Robert Royall

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                          Cyrilix
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                          Yeah, but the 4850 creams the 8800 GT. I still think 4850 is bigger bang for the buck, especially given that the OP wanted a card at a maximum of $200 (which is the buck he's willing to spend).

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                            A game that I play frequently has better graphics when used with a decent video card. Lately, the numbers don't mean crap anymore and a higher chipset number may not be a better card. This is the recommended configuration for the premium graphics client: 256MB GeForce 7950 or higher, ATi Radeon X1900 or higher and Similar chips from other manufacturers I'm hoping the jolly fat man, or someone else, brings me something that matches that. I'm not looking for something at the top end of the spectrum, just something that's a little better than the requirements but without breaking the bank (Less than $200). My requirements: PCI Express, VGA output. The motherboard I have only provides PCIe x8 (but according to the PCIe specs, PCIe x16 devices will work, only at half the throughput. A different MB will be something for another day. Any suggestions? [edit: Is this my 15 minutes of fame? Being one of the linked topics in the daily newsletter? :)]

                            I don't claim to be a know it all, for I know that I am not...

                            I usually have an answer though.

                            modified on Tuesday, October 28, 2008 1:40 PM

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                            You didn't mention the resolution you would be using but I wouldn't recomend any card with less than 512MB. You should check out tomshardware.com since they have charts and reviews that compare all cards relative to eachother. Also, each month they update a list that has best bang for the buck across all price ranges. And keep in mind that Black Friday is coming up and there will be great deals then. Jay

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                              A game that I play frequently has better graphics when used with a decent video card. Lately, the numbers don't mean crap anymore and a higher chipset number may not be a better card. This is the recommended configuration for the premium graphics client: 256MB GeForce 7950 or higher, ATi Radeon X1900 or higher and Similar chips from other manufacturers I'm hoping the jolly fat man, or someone else, brings me something that matches that. I'm not looking for something at the top end of the spectrum, just something that's a little better than the requirements but without breaking the bank (Less than $200). My requirements: PCI Express, VGA output. The motherboard I have only provides PCIe x8 (but according to the PCIe specs, PCIe x16 devices will work, only at half the throughput. A different MB will be something for another day. Any suggestions? [edit: Is this my 15 minutes of fame? Being one of the linked topics in the daily newsletter? :)]

                              I don't claim to be a know it all, for I know that I am not...

                              I usually have an answer though.

                              modified on Tuesday, October 28, 2008 1:40 PM

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                              You also need to keep in mind your power supply. Some don't have PCI graphics card power connectors. They can be either 6 or 8 pin. Some cards require one or two of a specific size. Check your supply and let that limit your card choice or pick the card and then get a supply that works with it (don't forget to watch your wattage too). Jay

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