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Will we developers get Ribbon Interface to use in our applications in Windows 7?

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  • D Dan Neely

    AFAIK yes, but not the same implementation as the one in office or the one that has (will be???) provided by MS to VS2k8 before w7 is expected to ship.

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    vikrant kpr
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    yeah that would be really great :-)

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    • E El Corazon

      vikrant kpr wrote:

      will we get the ribbon interface to include in our applications as we get button control?

      I am going for the fancy lace interface instead. ;P edit: though I might offer a leather interface for those who prefer a more rugged interface. ;P

      _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb) John Andrew Holmes "It is well to remember that the entire universe, with one trifling exception, is composed of others."

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      vikrant kpr
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      i hope we all would be waiting for that :-)

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      • V vikrant kpr

        Hey Friends Windows 7 is including Ribbon interface everywhere, be it wordpad, be it paint brush http://content.zdnet.com/2346-12354_22-244222-18.html[^] What do u say, will we get the ribbon interface to include in our applications as we get button control? regards

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        Isn't that the same ribbon interface that is supplied with the Visual C++ 2008 Feature Pack? Specifically, the MFC CMFCRibbonBar class and related classes? MFC Ribbon class[^]

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        • E El Corazon

          vikrant kpr wrote:

          will we get the ribbon interface to include in our applications as we get button control?

          I am going for the fancy lace interface instead. ;P edit: though I might offer a leather interface for those who prefer a more rugged interface. ;P

          _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb) John Andrew Holmes "It is well to remember that the entire universe, with one trifling exception, is composed of others."

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          PIEBALDconsult
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          El Corazon wrote:

          leather interface

          With an Iron Cross for Exit?

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          • B bob16972

            Isn't that the same ribbon interface that is supplied with the Visual C++ 2008 Feature Pack? Specifically, the MFC CMFCRibbonBar class and related classes? MFC Ribbon class[^]

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            vikrant kpr
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            yeah seems to be the same but has anybody used it in non office 2007 application? and if it works without installing office then why so many third parties are offering it?

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            • V vikrant kpr

              Hey Friends Windows 7 is including Ribbon interface everywhere, be it wordpad, be it paint brush http://content.zdnet.com/2346-12354_22-244222-18.html[^] What do u say, will we get the ribbon interface to include in our applications as we get button control? regards

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              PIEBALDconsult
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              I hope not; it's bloody useless. Menues were good enough in the 1980s and they're boody well good enough now!

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              • V vikrant kpr

                yeah seems to be the same but has anybody used it in non office 2007 application? and if it works without installing office then why so many third parties are offering it?

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                You can build a new MFC doc/view app with ribbon support using the wizards. I don't think Office 2007 needs to be installed but maybe I missed something. From what I can tell with the application options when I create one in Visual Studio 2008, you get to choose the style and color scheme so it might ignore the users preferences for the system but I haven't messed with it beyond that. It's pretty cool so far.

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                • B bob16972

                  You can build a new MFC doc/view app with ribbon support using the wizards. I don't think Office 2007 needs to be installed but maybe I missed something. From what I can tell with the application options when I create one in Visual Studio 2008, you get to choose the style and color scheme so it might ignore the users preferences for the system but I haven't messed with it beyond that. It's pretty cool so far.

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                  vikrant kpr
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                  yeah it does seems really cool will digg thanks a lot

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                  • B bob16972

                    You can build a new MFC doc/view app with ribbon support using the wizards. I don't think Office 2007 needs to be installed but maybe I missed something. From what I can tell with the application options when I create one in Visual Studio 2008, you get to choose the style and color scheme so it might ignore the users preferences for the system but I haven't messed with it beyond that. It's pretty cool so far.

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                    h ey buddy you were correct i just created a sample application with ribbon created a setup ran the setup on a xp machine (without office) and it works :-) The only issue is that if i create setup, it costs me around 14 mb now for a sample application who is going to afford 14mb download? regards

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                    • V vikrant kpr

                      yeah seems to be the same but has anybody used it in non office 2007 application? and if it works without installing office then why so many third parties are offering it?

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                      vikrant kpr wrote:

                      but has anybody used it in non office 2007 application?

                      Yep, I am, in a data-centric document/view application.

                      vikrant kpr wrote:

                      and if it works without installing office

                      Yep, it does not use Office's components at all.

                      vikrant kpr wrote:

                      then why so many third parties are offering it?

                      I believe because the ribbon has been there for more than a year, and only until the feature pack was released (march 2008 IIRC) it was made available to MFC devs.

                      Stupidity is an International Association - Enrique Jardiel Poncela Die deutsche Sprache sollte sanft und ehrfurchtsvoll zu den toten Sprachen abgelegt werden, denn nur die Toten haben die Zeit, diese Sprache zu lernen. - Mark Twain

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                      • F Fernando A Gomez F

                        vikrant kpr wrote:

                        but has anybody used it in non office 2007 application?

                        Yep, I am, in a data-centric document/view application.

                        vikrant kpr wrote:

                        and if it works without installing office

                        Yep, it does not use Office's components at all.

                        vikrant kpr wrote:

                        then why so many third parties are offering it?

                        I believe because the ribbon has been there for more than a year, and only until the feature pack was released (march 2008 IIRC) it was made available to MFC devs.

                        Stupidity is an International Association - Enrique Jardiel Poncela Die deutsche Sprache sollte sanft und ehrfurchtsvoll zu den toten Sprachen abgelegt werden, denn nur die Toten haben die Zeit, diese Sprache zu lernen. - Mark Twain

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                        hey buddy that's really brilliant to hear i also created a sample application & checked on xp & the application works brilliantly however one concern is deployment of the exe if using mfc dynamically built & using the setup & deployment project it creates setup of size 14MB I am sure i am missing something, but that's a concern regards

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                        • V vikrant kpr

                          hey buddy that's really brilliant to hear i also created a sample application & checked on xp & the application works brilliantly however one concern is deployment of the exe if using mfc dynamically built & using the setup & deployment project it creates setup of size 14MB I am sure i am missing something, but that's a concern regards

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                          Fernando A Gomez F
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                          Mmm... Don't know why. My app's size is 2MB, and the installer was 5 MBs or so. It was created with InnoSetup, however...

                          Stupidity is an International Association - Enrique Jardiel Poncela Die deutsche Sprache sollte sanft und ehrfurchtsvoll zu den toten Sprachen abgelegt werden, denn nur die Toten haben die Zeit, diese Sprache zu lernen. - Mark Twain

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                          • F Fernando A Gomez F

                            Mmm... Don't know why. My app's size is 2MB, and the installer was 5 MBs or so. It was created with InnoSetup, however...

                            Stupidity is an International Association - Enrique Jardiel Poncela Die deutsche Sprache sollte sanft und ehrfurchtsvoll zu den toten Sprachen abgelegt werden, denn nur die Toten haben die Zeit, diese Sprache zu lernen. - Mark Twain

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                            vikrant kpr
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                            yeah you would have used mfc as statistically linked or use windows libraries the file size is 14mb if using mfc dynamically linked thanks for the help ribbon is great & offers really great gui for doc/view applications seems third party vendors will have to offer more to be in business

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