Am I overreacting?
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In my little town there is a house on the main drag with tons of anti-abortion stuff like signs saying "ABORTION IS MURDER." Never really cared about it before, however, today I drove by and there is a new sign. It says, "ABORTION IS TODAY'S HOLOCAUST" WTF? I understand that abortion gets a lot of people riled up, but I find this so totally offensive. I understand free speech but I find this incendiary. Am I just overreacting because of my religion or would those of you WHO ARE REASONABLE (which excludes a number from SB) feel the same way?
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I don't know if you consider me reasonable or not, but here's my take. There are over 1 million abortions each year in the United States. If you compare the time span of the Holocaust, roughly 1935 to 1945, when six million Jews were slaughtered, to a 10 year total of abortions, one could make the argument that the statement is correct. However, when you consider that each abortion was an indivual decision by an individual mother while the Holocaust was a systematic state-sponsored slaughter of a group based upon their religious heritage, there is simply no comparison and it is a false and bigoted analogy.
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I get the impression that a lot of abortion protesters, like a lot of anti gay protesters ( like the Phelps church ) are just looking to create outrage so they can feel self righteous about it all. I can see the parallel tho, they are saying that abortion represents state sanctioned mass murder. I would find that less offensive than placards with ( what I hope are reproductions of ) aborted babies tied to them being waved in the faces of people walking past a clinic, which I have seen.
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Christian Graus wrote:
I get the impression that a lot of abortion protesters, like a lot of anti gay protesters ( like the Phelps church ) are just looking to create outrage so they can feel self righteous about it all.
I have to agree. If not why do you promote multi-billion p*n industry and hope the citizen will not be active. Best regards, Paul.
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I don't know if you consider me reasonable or not, but here's my take. There are over 1 million abortions each year in the United States. If you compare the time span of the Holocaust, roughly 1935 to 1945, when six million Jews were slaughtered, to a 10 year total of abortions, one could make the argument that the statement is correct. However, when you consider that each abortion was an indivual decision by an individual mother while the Holocaust was a systematic state-sponsored slaughter of a group based upon their religious heritage, there is simply no comparison and it is a false and bigoted analogy.
Ed Gadziemski wrote:
There are over 1 million abortions each year in the United States.
The p*n industry is very profitable then.
Ed Gadziemski wrote:
If you compare the time span of the Holocaust, roughly 1935 to 1945, when six million Jews were slaughtered
There is a difference. They did not buy, but were forced to pay a price. Best regards, Paul.
Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.
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Ed Gadziemski wrote:
There are over 1 million abortions each year in the United States.
The p*n industry is very profitable then.
Ed Gadziemski wrote:
If you compare the time span of the Holocaust, roughly 1935 to 1945, when six million Jews were slaughtered
There is a difference. They did not buy, but were forced to pay a price. Best regards, Paul.
Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.
I'm sorry, Paul, but I don't understand either of your points. Would you mind explaining?
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DRHuff wrote:
You mean like this?[^]
I guess that will lead to a dead metaphor sooner or later.
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Ed Gadziemski wrote:
There are over 1 million abortions each year in the United States.
The p*n industry is very profitable then.
Ed Gadziemski wrote:
If you compare the time span of the Holocaust, roughly 1935 to 1945, when six million Jews were slaughtered
There is a difference. They did not buy, but were forced to pay a price. Best regards, Paul.
Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.
Paul Selormey wrote:
They did not buy, but were forced to pay a price.
Bad argument - you are comparing the victims of the Holocaust to the women who had abortions. Not the babies/foetuses/minimillay specialized cell groupings (pick one that your comfortable with). So in response to you quote: Who were forced to pay a price - the jews or the babies? As an aside - why does anyone get involved in this argument? Have you ever seen anybody change sides on this issue?
I'm pretty sure I would not like to live in a world in which I would never be offended. I am absolutely certain I don't want to live in a world in which you would never be offended. Dave
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_Damian S_ wrote:
allows me to punch someone in the face.
Flipping you the bird is freedom of speech. Punching you in the nose is battery.
So waving a flag is freedom of speech. Burning a flag is wilful destruction of property?
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I'm sorry, Paul, but I don't understand either of your points. Would you mind explaining?
1. Just pointing how the US got there. 2. The difference has nothing to do with "religious heritage". Best regards, Paul.
Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.
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Ed Gadziemski wrote:
There are over 1 million abortions each year in the United States.
The p*n industry is very profitable then.
Ed Gadziemski wrote:
If you compare the time span of the Holocaust, roughly 1935 to 1945, when six million Jews were slaughtered
There is a difference. They did not buy, but were forced to pay a price. Best regards, Paul.
Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.
Paul Selormey wrote:
The p*n industry
Is this meant to be the porn industry? If not, which industry are you referring to?
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Paul Selormey wrote:
They did not buy, but were forced to pay a price.
Bad argument - you are comparing the victims of the Holocaust to the women who had abortions. Not the babies/foetuses/minimillay specialized cell groupings (pick one that your comfortable with). So in response to you quote: Who were forced to pay a price - the jews or the babies? As an aside - why does anyone get involved in this argument? Have you ever seen anybody change sides on this issue?
I'm pretty sure I would not like to live in a world in which I would never be offended. I am absolutely certain I don't want to live in a world in which you would never be offended. Dave
DRHuff wrote:
Bad argument - you are comparing the victims of the Holocaust to the women who had abortions.
No, that was what leckey saw.
DRHuff wrote:
Who were forced to pay a price - the jews or the babies?
Both, the Jews for doing nothing wrong. The US babies for the multi-billion p*n industry being promoted worldwide.
DRHuff wrote:
As an aside - why does anyone get involved in this argument? Have you ever seen anybody change sides on this issue?
No, there is no argument. It is just politics, using Christianity as the target. Best regards, Paul.
Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.
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1. Just pointing how the US got there. 2. The difference has nothing to do with "religious heritage". Best regards, Paul.
Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.
What do porn and abortions have to do with each other ?
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What do porn and abortions have to do with each other ?
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. "Iam doing the browsing center project in vb.net using c# coding" - this is why I don't answer questions much anymore. Oh, and Microsoft doesn't want me to.
Oh good, so it's not just me who thought that was what he was getting at...
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What do porn and abortions have to do with each other ?
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. "Iam doing the browsing center project in vb.net using c# coding" - this is why I don't answer questions much anymore. Oh, and Microsoft doesn't want me to.
I do not know if I have to say it again, the porn does nothing more than promoting sex, right? Do we need to find the relation between sex and abortion? Best regards, Paul.
Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.
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So waving a flag is freedom of speech. Burning a flag is wilful destruction of property?
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_Damian S_ wrote:
So waving a flag is freedom of speech.
You are never forced to wave it. :)
_Damian S_ wrote:
Burning a flag is wilful destruction of property?
It is someone's property, and you should be programming if you have time :) Best regards, Paul.
Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.
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I do not know if I have to say it again, the porn does nothing more than promoting sex, right? Do we need to find the relation between sex and abortion? Best regards, Paul.
Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.
I would have thought that the people watching porn are more likely to be using their hand than another person, therefore less likely to cause an unwanted pregnancy...
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I would have thought that the people watching porn are more likely to be using their hand than another person, therefore less likely to cause an unwanted pregnancy...
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_Damian S_ wrote:
I would have thought that the people watching...
That limits the scope of its influence. When it is rooted, it affects many things, and comes in many different bits including commercials, dressing, talking etc. I have turned off my TV and very happy with the decision. A Japanese pastor told me he/wife do not watch it, and I now thank God for him. I wonder how a kid will grow here in Japan without seeing a porn, the magazines are all around they do not need to buy it. The result is a drive for sex; prepared or unprepared, willingly or forcefully. Best regards, Paul.
Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.
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In my little town there is a house on the main drag with tons of anti-abortion stuff like signs saying "ABORTION IS MURDER." Never really cared about it before, however, today I drove by and there is a new sign. It says, "ABORTION IS TODAY'S HOLOCAUST" WTF? I understand that abortion gets a lot of people riled up, but I find this so totally offensive. I understand free speech but I find this incendiary. Am I just overreacting because of my religion or would those of you WHO ARE REASONABLE (which excludes a number from SB) feel the same way?
Blog link to be reinstated at a later date.
Even the bible says that Abortion is not murder! It defines the killing of an unborn child as crime against property, not against the individual. So all the Bible-Bashing Cretins are hypocritical tossers who can f#'& off telling others how to live by their self imposed biblical rules when even they can't!
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In my little town there is a house on the main drag with tons of anti-abortion stuff like signs saying "ABORTION IS MURDER." Never really cared about it before, however, today I drove by and there is a new sign. It says, "ABORTION IS TODAY'S HOLOCAUST" WTF? I understand that abortion gets a lot of people riled up, but I find this so totally offensive. I understand free speech but I find this incendiary. Am I just overreacting because of my religion or would those of you WHO ARE REASONABLE (which excludes a number from SB) feel the same way?
Blog link to be reinstated at a later date.
You're not overreacting... Those putting up signs never have been in any trouble I reckon. I'm not saying every abortion is OK, but IMO that's a case to case bases ...
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I do not know if I have to say it again, the porn does nothing more than promoting sex, right? Do we need to find the relation between sex and abortion? Best regards, Paul.
Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.
Please do, because IMO it's just a matter of education...
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In my little town there is a house on the main drag with tons of anti-abortion stuff like signs saying "ABORTION IS MURDER." Never really cared about it before, however, today I drove by and there is a new sign. It says, "ABORTION IS TODAY'S HOLOCAUST" WTF? I understand that abortion gets a lot of people riled up, but I find this so totally offensive. I understand free speech but I find this incendiary. Am I just overreacting because of my religion or would those of you WHO ARE REASONABLE (which excludes a number from SB) feel the same way?
Blog link to be reinstated at a later date.
No, you're just reacting inconsistently. If 'abortion is murder' doesn't engender this reaction from you, and you know their are hundreds of thousands of abortions every year, then why would you not already realize the logical extension that 'abortion constitutues a modern genocide'. If it is ammounting to hundreds of thousands of deaths every year, sponsored and legalised by the state all directed at one one vulnerable sector of the population (in this case the < 0 days old ) then what would you call this but a 'modern holocaust'? The fact that it takes these words specifically to make you react implies either that you never understood the message of the previous posters, don't think logically about what you read, or don't understand what the holocaust was. I suspect the middle option which would place you in the same bracket as most people who read, emote, subconciously absorb and then consiously forget. This may seem like a simple criticism but it's far more than that. It's why advertising works, why you almost certainly don't know about the work of the Rand Coporation, why so many people will vote for Obama, for Camaron, for Cheese if it's dressed right and not understand why they don't get what they mistakenly think they've been promised.
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