Mentioned in, "Dreams from My Father" - that well known memoir of his nothingness
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Mike Gaskey wrote:
12% (mine, anyway) mortgage rates
Sorry, Mike, your statement is wrong. You are misremembering the Carter years. I bought two houses in the late 70s. The first was in March 1977 at 7.75%. I sold that house and bought another in September 1979 with a 7.25% mortgage. It was during Reagan that mortgages rose to 12% because he started spending like a drunken sailor and paying for it with borrowed money.
according to the timeline i have the US became a debtor nation in 1985~ which was during the Reagan administration 2nd term. I also believe a huge recession occured during the Reagan administration, however, this was in the first two years of his term. The Junk Bond debacle occured during George HW Bush's presidency which followed Reagan's 8 years. During Carters administration New York City almost declared bankruptcy and the energy crisis occured. Carter historically is not regarded as a strong president though. And I am sure there are reasons for it.
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modified on Thursday, October 30, 2008 1:21 PM
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Is it frustrating that even with all of your efforts to focus on some kind of messiah complex that you just aren't getting any traction with this weak ineffectual tactic of smearing the democratic candidate? You've been working hard. Gotta applaud the effort. From racist comments to silly Matrix references you've worked real hard at this, but he still does well. Must be frustrating. I had been planning on writing in Ron Paul. I'm starting to think from this negative approach that you are taking that Obama might indeed deserve my vote. Thanks Mike. You more than anyone has pushed me in this direction.
I've heard more said about less.
shiftedbitmonkey wrote:
Ron Paul
RON PAUL! woot woot!
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Ed Gadziemski wrote:
0.5% is a better way to state that. Using the dash could be taken as 1% to 2% when it's really only one-half of one percent.
My intent was 1% to 2%, not 1/2%.
John Carson
John Carson wrote:
My intent was 1% to 2%, not 1/2%
Then your intent was to lie and your fact is wrong. Earmarks account for 16 billion of the 2.8 trillion spending or 0.57% of the total.
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according to the timeline i have the US became a debtor nation in 1985~ which was during the Reagan administration 2nd term. I also believe a huge recession occured during the Reagan administration, however, this was in the first two years of his term. The Junk Bond debacle occured during George HW Bush's presidency which followed Reagan's 8 years. During Carters administration New York City almost declared bankruptcy and the energy crisis occured. Carter historically is not regarded as a strong president though. And I am sure there are reasons for it.
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modified on Thursday, October 30, 2008 1:21 PM
jgasm wrote:
Carter historically is not regarded as a strong president
This is true. He had many faults. However, Mike is lying and is trying to pin Reagan / Bush Sr. economic issues on Carter.
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jgasm wrote:
Carter historically is not regarded as a strong president
This is true. He had many faults. However, Mike is lying and is trying to pin Reagan / Bush Sr. economic issues on Carter.
That whole 12 years of Reagan/Bush was a disaster.
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John Carson wrote:
My intent was 1% to 2%, not 1/2%
Then your intent was to lie and your fact is wrong. Earmarks account for 16 billion of the 2.8 trillion spending or 0.57% of the total.
Ed Gadziemski wrote:
Then your intent was to lie and your fact is wrong. Earmarks account for 16 billion of the 2.8 trillion spending or 0.57% of the total.
You are being an arsehole. Earmarks as a percentage of expenditure vary from year to year and there are multiple ways to define them. See here, for example. http://www.law.harvard.edu/faculty/hjackson/Earmarks_16.pdf[^]
John Carson
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Ed Gadziemski wrote:
Then your intent was to lie and your fact is wrong. Earmarks account for 16 billion of the 2.8 trillion spending or 0.57% of the total.
You are being an arsehole. Earmarks as a percentage of expenditure vary from year to year and there are multiple ways to define them. See here, for example. http://www.law.harvard.edu/faculty/hjackson/Earmarks_16.pdf[^]
John Carson
For fiscal 2008, the budget watchdog group Taxpayers for Common Sense said there was $18.3 billion earmarked in spending bills. Citizens Against Government Waste came in at $17.2 billion. The Office of Management and Budget tallied earmarks at a mere $16.9 billion.
Stop lying, John. You've been caught out trying to promote your conservative right-wing bullshit agenda. Time to man up.
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For fiscal 2008, the budget watchdog group Taxpayers for Common Sense said there was $18.3 billion earmarked in spending bills. Citizens Against Government Waste came in at $17.2 billion. The Office of Management and Budget tallied earmarks at a mere $16.9 billion.
Stop lying, John. You've been caught out trying to promote your conservative right-wing bullshit agenda. Time to man up.
Ed Gadziemski wrote:
You've been caught out trying to promote your conservative right-wing bullsh*t agenda
:laugh: Holy shiite muslim! You think Carson's right-wing?!? :wtf: I knew you were insanely partisan, I didn't know it was THIS bad. Or do you just think that "right-wing" means "doesn't agree with me"? :laugh: Thanks, I needed a good laugh before the election
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Mike Gaskey wrote:
Secondly a president can issue executive orders, as in, "this entire swath of the country is now a national park and by the way, you can't look for oil there".
Wow, I hope he doesn't do something awful like that, or worse, just decide that he wants to declare a war. Can you imagine what it would be like if that happened?
I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours. ~Stephen Roberts
Only congress can start a war. It's a policing action otherwise.
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Only congress can start a war. It's a policing action otherwise.
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MidwestLimey wrote:
Only congress can start a war. It's a policing action otherwise.
Oh good! Does 'policing action' mean that innocent civilians don't get bombed, shot or otherwise killed?
You never ever could win a war / That's what you have to learn / Here everybody is a loser / You will get nothing in return - "Fortunes of War", Funker Vogt
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Ed Gadziemski wrote:
You've been caught out trying to promote your conservative right-wing bullsh*t agenda
:laugh: Holy shiite muslim! You think Carson's right-wing?!? :wtf: I knew you were insanely partisan, I didn't know it was THIS bad. Or do you just think that "right-wing" means "doesn't agree with me"? :laugh: Thanks, I needed a good laugh before the election
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Any person who takes the actual figure of one-half of one percent and inflates it by a factor of four is not exactly on the same side of factuality as I am.
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Any person who takes the actual figure of one-half of one percent and inflates it by a factor of four is not exactly on the same side of factuality as I am.
Right, uh huh, yeah, yeah, I hear ya... And in your twisted little mind "not exactly on the same side of factuality as I am" = "right-wing BS *froth at the mouth here* " Hmm... I think the majority of the English speaking world has a better, standard definitions for "right-wing", you should look into it. But now I see where all this unexplained partisanship comes from. Now that I know you image "doesn't agree with me" is the same as "right wing" a lot of things fall into place. Great! This is progress. The first step is identifying it. Next is to wash it off. :rolleyes:
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