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Linux will ship on more PCs next year than Microsoft Windows

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  • G Graham Bradshaw

    Graham Shanks wrote:

    Because you need to have enough disk space to store the memory image and when you're short of disk space...

    True, but the hibernation file goes in the root of the system drive (and its location can't be changed). If you are that short of space on the system drive, you're asking for trouble anyway.

    Graham Shanks wrote:

    Because if a laptop connected to the company network is hibernated you resume when no longer connected to the network

    Again, true, but I'm thinking more of the "go home for the evening... ... come back in the morning" scenario, when the network would still be there.

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    Graham Shanks
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    Free disk space: 444 MB Disk space requried to hibernate: 2,048 MB And yes, it requires careful management :(

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    • W whatUrunning com

      Its quite a bold statement but not quite what it seems, full article here[^]

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      Dan Neely
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      If they'd just stop loading the @#)($ bloatware they could get sub 30s boots from their windows images as well.

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      • W whatUrunning com

        Its quite a bold statement but not quite what it seems, full article here[^]

        www.whatUrunning.com www.whatUrunning.com blog

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        Tom Deketelaere
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        I'v found that linux actually boots slower than windows (ofcourse the laptop where I have linux on is over 7years old), could ofcourse be because I don't know much about linux and it's set up is probably wrong but still. I installed it because I wanted to test linux and because windows didn't work to well anymore on the laptop but it always booted faster. Linux takes about 2-3min before it's booted (like I said very old laptop) and windows XP (on the same laptop) took about 1 min but then took ages to open an application where linux works very nice once booted. Anyway like I said it's an very old laptop and I probably have linux set up completly wrong

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          I'v found that linux actually boots slower than windows (ofcourse the laptop where I have linux on is over 7years old), could ofcourse be because I don't know much about linux and it's set up is probably wrong but still. I installed it because I wanted to test linux and because windows didn't work to well anymore on the laptop but it always booted faster. Linux takes about 2-3min before it's booted (like I said very old laptop) and windows XP (on the same laptop) took about 1 min but then took ages to open an application where linux works very nice once booted. Anyway like I said it's an very old laptop and I probably have linux set up completly wrong

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          whatUrunning com
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          There are several light linux distributions suited to older hardware which you could try. Checkout TinyMe[^]

          www.whatUrunning.com www.whatUrunning.com blog

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            There are several light linux distributions suited to older hardware which you could try. Checkout TinyMe[^]

            www.whatUrunning.com www.whatUrunning.com blog

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            Tom Deketelaere
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            I'll check it out thanks I only use the laptop for msn and skype anyway (and some surfing) so doesn't have to be much :)

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            • W whatUrunning com

              Its quite a bold statement but not quite what it seems, full article here[^]

              www.whatUrunning.com www.whatUrunning.com blog

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              Pete OHanlon
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              Well woo-hoo - so Linux will be installed on machines that also have Windows installed. I can't see MS being too worried about this - they'll still get paid, and consumers will still run application written for Windows.

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              • T Tom Deketelaere

                I'v found that linux actually boots slower than windows (ofcourse the laptop where I have linux on is over 7years old), could ofcourse be because I don't know much about linux and it's set up is probably wrong but still. I installed it because I wanted to test linux and because windows didn't work to well anymore on the laptop but it always booted faster. Linux takes about 2-3min before it's booted (like I said very old laptop) and windows XP (on the same laptop) took about 1 min but then took ages to open an application where linux works very nice once booted. Anyway like I said it's an very old laptop and I probably have linux set up completly wrong

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                benjymous
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                The reason for this is quite simple - XP cheats - it lets you get to the desktop before it's actually finished booting (it continues loading services in the background) This is quite a simple thing to demonstrate. Assuming your PC has a login screen, boot the PC and log in as soon as it will let you, and try running stuff. Next reboot, and leave it sat on the login screen for a few minutes, and try the same stuff again. It should be much more responsive this time around, since you've given it a chance to load all the background stuff.

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                  The funny thing is that the article says that a stripped-down Linux will be available in 30 seconds. Microsoft claims Windows 7 to boot in 22 seconds.

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                  Dave Parker
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                  Boot or log-in and become usable? I can reach the log-in dialog in next to no time (prob <30 secs anyway), but then there's about 6 or 7 minutes of constant hard disk thrashing and unresponsiveness after logging in for 10 minutes before anything becomes usable. On my work PC, one you factor in loading visual studio 2005, excel (for timesheet), outlook and an instance of explorer this goes up to around 20 minutes after logging in before those programs are loaded and respond to mouse clicks.

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                  • B benjymous

                    The reason for this is quite simple - XP cheats - it lets you get to the desktop before it's actually finished booting (it continues loading services in the background) This is quite a simple thing to demonstrate. Assuming your PC has a login screen, boot the PC and log in as soon as it will let you, and try running stuff. Next reboot, and leave it sat on the login screen for a few minutes, and try the same stuff again. It should be much more responsive this time around, since you've given it a chance to load all the background stuff.

                    Help me! I'm turning into a grapefruit! Buzzwords!

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                    Tom Deketelaere
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                    Yeah probably true But even after half an hour the laptop was still very slow (just not enough power). Besides the only thing I do on that thing is msn/skype and surfing so not going to install xp for that.

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                    • W whatUrunning com

                      Its quite a bold statement but not quite what it seems, full article here[^]

                      www.whatUrunning.com www.whatUrunning.com blog

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                      Russell Jones
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                      no more ludicrous than ms selling PCs with downgrade rights and claiming a Vista sale.

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                      • G Graham Bradshaw

                        But most Windows PCs resume from hibernate in less than 30 seconds anyway. Does anyone actually shut down (as opposed to hibernating) a computer these days?

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                        PIEBALDconsult
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                        Absolutely. I don't need my computer to remind me what I was doing before I stopped. I want to get a fresh start in the morning. Would you start your day with a half-cup of the previous day's cold coffee? I think not. Hibernation is for pot-heads.

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                          Absolutely. I don't need my computer to remind me what I was doing before I stopped. I want to get a fresh start in the morning. Would you start your day with a half-cup of the previous day's cold coffee? I think not. Hibernation is for pot-heads.

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                          Graham Bradshaw
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                          And shutting down and restarting is quicker than logging off and back on?

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                          • G Graham Bradshaw

                            And shutting down and restarting is quicker than logging off and back on?

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                            PIEBALDconsult
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                            My office computer I log off and leave running when I'm not using it. I have to remote into it from home and I have it running a service I like to have running all the time. My home computer I shut down over night. In the morning I turn it on, go grind beans for coffee, check to be sure the kid is getting ready for school, etc. By the time I get back to the computer it's booted and ready to go. If I don't expect to use it for an hour or so, I might log off, and yes that gives me the "clean slate" when I do get back on later.

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