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    Aaron VanWieren
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    Did anybody else see the two occasions that CNN pulled out their new hologram technology. Not sure if it was a gimmick, but it was deffinately really cool! I have a clip of it here[^].

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      Did anybody else see the two occasions that CNN pulled out their new hologram technology. Not sure if it was a gimmick, but it was deffinately really cool! I have a clip of it here[^].

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      Chris Maunder
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      It looks to me that it's not an actual hologram, but rather just an image inserted into the video stream from inside the CNN studio. I don't think Wolf can actually see her (at least not in front of him, but probably on a monitor he can see). She mentioned that the camera in Chicago react to the cameras in the studio so as the NY camera pans and zooms, so too would the ones in Chicago. That keeps perspective and direction correct. Meh. I still reckon those blue and green lines they draw on the football field are better.

      cheers, Chris Maunder

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        Did anybody else see the two occasions that CNN pulled out their new hologram technology. Not sure if it was a gimmick, but it was deffinately really cool! I have a clip of it here[^].

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        Cheesy gimmick - not really a hologram. Blue halo looked really stupid.

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          Did anybody else see the two occasions that CNN pulled out their new hologram technology. Not sure if it was a gimmick, but it was deffinately really cool! I have a clip of it here[^].

          _____________________________________________________________________ Our developers never release code. Rather, it tends to escape, pillaging the countryside all around. The Enlightenment Project (paraphrased comment) Visit Me at GISDevCafe

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          QuiJohn
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          I thought it was quite silly and looked bad. It would be cool if Wolf could see the person really standing there, but he couldn't... it was only on tv that we could see her. What was the point? They used 35 HD cameras (or something) to encircle the "hologram" and they had to be timed with the movement of the camera in the CNN studio. And the end result was she looked like a Quake 1 skin.


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            Did anybody else see the two occasions that CNN pulled out their new hologram technology. Not sure if it was a gimmick, but it was deffinately really cool! I have a clip of it here[^].

            _____________________________________________________________________ Our developers never release code. Rather, it tends to escape, pillaging the countryside all around. The Enlightenment Project (paraphrased comment) Visit Me at GISDevCafe

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            It's a simple trick that can be achieved with free software (e.g. Blender) - she's been filmed against a blue background, then the image is composited with the studio footage to provide the effect (the giveaway is the blue line around her - which also indicates that it's been done very poorly - modern blue / green screen techniques deal with this problem) Oh - btw - ignore the guff in the link about 360 degree blah blah blah...it's a single camera job.

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              It looks to me that it's not an actual hologram, but rather just an image inserted into the video stream from inside the CNN studio. I don't think Wolf can actually see her (at least not in front of him, but probably on a monitor he can see). She mentioned that the camera in Chicago react to the cameras in the studio so as the NY camera pans and zooms, so too would the ones in Chicago. That keeps perspective and direction correct. Meh. I still reckon those blue and green lines they draw on the football field are better.

              cheers, Chris Maunder

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              Paul Watson
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              You watch football? *Australians everywhere morn*

              cheers, Paul M. Watson.

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                Did anybody else see the two occasions that CNN pulled out their new hologram technology. Not sure if it was a gimmick, but it was deffinately really cool! I have a clip of it here[^].

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                Paul Watson
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                That is very, very creepy. Do you think Wolf tried to make out with her after they went off air?

                cheers, Paul M. Watson.

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                  You watch football? *Australians everywhere morn*

                  cheers, Paul M. Watson.

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                  Chris Maunder
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                  No, I peer curiously at "football" on North American TVs occasionally and wonder why they spend so much time standing still, wear so much armour, and why only some of them can run, some of them can throw, some of them can block, and some of them can do strange little dances. I still do not understand the sport. Aren't there something like 114 people per team? Now Rugby and Aussie Rules Footy - those I don't mind watching.

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                    No, I peer curiously at "football" on North American TVs occasionally and wonder why they spend so much time standing still, wear so much armour, and why only some of them can run, some of them can throw, some of them can block, and some of them can do strange little dances. I still do not understand the sport. Aren't there something like 114 people per team? Now Rugby and Aussie Rules Footy - those I don't mind watching.

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                    Paul Watson
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                    If rugby had as many interruptions there'd be a bloody riot.

                    cheers, Paul M. Watson.

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                      Did anybody else see the two occasions that CNN pulled out their new hologram technology. Not sure if it was a gimmick, but it was deffinately really cool! I have a clip of it here[^].

                      _____________________________________________________________________ Our developers never release code. Rather, it tends to escape, pillaging the countryside all around. The Enlightenment Project (paraphrased comment) Visit Me at GISDevCafe

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                      If it was a real hologram it would have been full of static and all jumpy. Doesn't anyone watch sci-fi shows? Broadcasting a stable image has an apparent difficulty slightly higher than warp travel.

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                        If it was a real hologram it would have been full of static and all jumpy. Doesn't anyone watch sci-fi shows? Broadcasting a stable image has an apparent difficulty slightly higher than warp travel.

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                        Paul Watson
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                        I never got why in Star Wars they use grainy, jumpy, static-filled holograms as if they were progress over even today's HD, wall-sized televisions. Is there something I'm missing in the Star Wars holograms that make them better than quality 2D? Princess Leia ain't hotter in 3D I tell you.

                        cheers, Paul M. Watson.

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                          Did anybody else see the two occasions that CNN pulled out their new hologram technology. Not sure if it was a gimmick, but it was deffinately really cool! I have a clip of it here[^].

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                          Shog9 0
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                          My wife and i were eating at a rib joint in Denver when one of 'em came on. Not only was the visual painfully cheesy, but they spent most of the segment patting themselves on the back for being so clever. I prefer that thing Conan O'brian did with static pictures and real lips... :rolleyes:

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                            It looks to me that it's not an actual hologram, but rather just an image inserted into the video stream from inside the CNN studio. I don't think Wolf can actually see her (at least not in front of him, but probably on a monitor he can see). She mentioned that the camera in Chicago react to the cameras in the studio so as the NY camera pans and zooms, so too would the ones in Chicago. That keeps perspective and direction correct. Meh. I still reckon those blue and green lines they draw on the football field are better.

                            cheers, Chris Maunder

                            CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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                            cjlambre
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                            My thoughts exactly, when I saw the image appear, I wondered if Wolf Blitzer could actually see her or if it was really just studio magic. Amazing what you can do with a little smoke and mirrors... Cheers, Carl

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                              Did anybody else see the two occasions that CNN pulled out their new hologram technology. Not sure if it was a gimmick, but it was deffinately really cool! I have a clip of it here[^].

                              _____________________________________________________________________ Our developers never release code. Rather, it tends to escape, pillaging the countryside all around. The Enlightenment Project (paraphrased comment) Visit Me at GISDevCafe

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                              :) Now that is more than a little silly looking. To me CNN's graphics have always been equivalent to the flaming logo web designers of the early days, throw everything you possibly can at the screen without any sense of style or taste. I'm guessing they're in the initial stages of trying out what's been on BBC World for at least a couple of years now; they've had what seems to be an entire virtual studio for a few years now. They don't insert virtual people into reality so much as insert a real person into a virtual environment. We were watching the election results last night and flipping through the "dial" and the BBC graphics made the CNN ones look decades out of date. The newscaster can walk around it, virtual screens appear in front of him which looks similar to that touch screen CNN still thinks is cutting edge, he can point down at the floor to a 3d pie graph that rises out of it and walk around it. I honestly don't think it brings anything to the news that's needed but maybe they feel like it will bring in the youth who are apparently too stupid to watch anything without funky graphics.


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                                Did anybody else see the two occasions that CNN pulled out their new hologram technology. Not sure if it was a gimmick, but it was deffinately really cool! I have a clip of it here[^].

                                _____________________________________________________________________ Our developers never release code. Rather, it tends to escape, pillaging the countryside all around. The Enlightenment Project (paraphrased comment) Visit Me at GISDevCafe

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                                VentsyV
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                                How about CBS's touch screens ?? Do you think those were Surface machines ?

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                                  I never got why in Star Wars they use grainy, jumpy, static-filled holograms as if they were progress over even today's HD, wall-sized televisions. Is there something I'm missing in the Star Wars holograms that make them better than quality 2D? Princess Leia ain't hotter in 3D I tell you.

                                  cheers, Paul M. Watson.

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                                  Mark_Wallace
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                                  Paul Watson wrote:

                                  I never got why in Star Wars they use grainy, jumpy, static-filled holograms

                                  It's because the holography's based on the same technology that's used in the targeting computers in their ships' guns.

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                                    I never got why in Star Wars they use grainy, jumpy, static-filled holograms as if they were progress over even today's HD, wall-sized televisions. Is there something I'm missing in the Star Wars holograms that make them better than quality 2D? Princess Leia ain't hotter in 3D I tell you.

                                    cheers, Paul M. Watson.

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                                    Robert Royall
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                                    Because in the Star Wars universe nobody developed image transmissions beyond NTSC. Hell, there isn't even any paper![^]

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                                      It's a simple trick that can be achieved with free software (e.g. Blender) - she's been filmed against a blue background, then the image is composited with the studio footage to provide the effect (the giveaway is the blue line around her - which also indicates that it's been done very poorly - modern blue / green screen techniques deal with this problem) Oh - btw - ignore the guff in the link about 360 degree blah blah blah...it's a single camera job.

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                                      Lost User
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                                      RichardGrimmer wrote:

                                      giveaway is the blue line around her

                                      I beg to differ - I think that was their attempt at making it look like a SF hologram

                                      RichardGrimmer wrote:

                                      ignore the guff in the link about 360 degree blah blah blah...it's a single camera job.

                                      NO it's not. There are 35 cameras surrounding her, using bluescreen and compositing software in real time (to remove images from the other cameras as well as the blue screen background). This is also linked in real time to the cameras in the live studio, s that camera movements in the live studio generate the 'holo' image at the right perspective. See Here[^]

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