What is the best browser for development?
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And I'm an advocate for testing your web applications in the four major browsers: 1. IE 2. Firefox 3. Safari 4. Chrome I recently had a Javascript error in my page and I used: IE 7 - Did not break the page - This is why I love IE. It hides bad developers' mistakes :) IE 8 - Broke the page but did not report the error Firefox 3.0.3 - Broke the page but did not report the error in the error console Chrome - Broke the page and reported the error! I was not a big fan of Chrome at first. I taught it was a Firefox clone. But because of this I might jump on the Google bandwagon. :)
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And I'm an advocate for testing your web applications in the four major browsers: 1. IE 2. Firefox 3. Safari 4. Chrome I recently had a Javascript error in my page and I used: IE 7 - Did not break the page - This is why I love IE. It hides bad developers' mistakes :) IE 8 - Broke the page but did not report the error Firefox 3.0.3 - Broke the page but did not report the error in the error console Chrome - Broke the page and reported the error! I was not a big fan of Chrome at first. I taught it was a Firefox clone. But because of this I might jump on the Google bandwagon. :)
I've had FF3 , IE6, Opera 9.5 I think a web developer should have some popular internet browser to test its programs on them .
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And I'm an advocate for testing your web applications in the four major browsers: 1. IE 2. Firefox 3. Safari 4. Chrome I recently had a Javascript error in my page and I used: IE 7 - Did not break the page - This is why I love IE. It hides bad developers' mistakes :) IE 8 - Broke the page but did not report the error Firefox 3.0.3 - Broke the page but did not report the error in the error console Chrome - Broke the page and reported the error! I was not a big fan of Chrome at first. I taught it was a Firefox clone. But because of this I might jump on the Google bandwagon. :)
kjmcsd wrote:
This is why I love IE. It hides bad developers' mistakes
Surely just writing good code is better? And at the same time it breaks pretty much every standard that the other, "Mozilla-based" browsers conform to. In my opinion it's a nightmare, and it is a burden that it has the dominant web browser market share. I personally use Opera and Firefox because of their development tools, as well as the fact that they run much faster than IE, although I periodically make sure my code works in IE and several other browsers such as Chrome and Safari just to make sure it's cross-browser compatible. Regards, --Perspx
"I've got my kids brainwashed: You don't use Google, and you don't use an iPod." - Steve Ballmer
"Some people have told me they don't think a fat penguin really embodies the grace of Linux, which just tells me they have never seen an angry penguin charging at them in excess of 100mph." - Linus Torvalds -
And I'm an advocate for testing your web applications in the four major browsers: 1. IE 2. Firefox 3. Safari 4. Chrome I recently had a Javascript error in my page and I used: IE 7 - Did not break the page - This is why I love IE. It hides bad developers' mistakes :) IE 8 - Broke the page but did not report the error Firefox 3.0.3 - Broke the page but did not report the error in the error console Chrome - Broke the page and reported the error! I was not a big fan of Chrome at first. I taught it was a Firefox clone. But because of this I might jump on the Google bandwagon. :)
Firefox 3.x with Firebug + Web Developer toolbar addons works for me. I like the debugging features and the way you can graphically inspect and drilldown into the html. Web Dev. toolbar has some nice stuff too. Be careful when you use addons in FF3! I spent about 2hrs trying to track down a Javascript error yesterday only to find that one of the addons had caused it. Still havent worked out which one yet, but after disabling all 22, the error went away! I also had a problem once where one of the addons was causing a double postback each time the page loaded because it was validating the html.
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And I'm an advocate for testing your web applications in the four major browsers: 1. IE 2. Firefox 3. Safari 4. Chrome I recently had a Javascript error in my page and I used: IE 7 - Did not break the page - This is why I love IE. It hides bad developers' mistakes :) IE 8 - Broke the page but did not report the error Firefox 3.0.3 - Broke the page but did not report the error in the error console Chrome - Broke the page and reported the error! I was not a big fan of Chrome at first. I taught it was a Firefox clone. But because of this I might jump on the Google bandwagon. :)
I have a separate Firefox profile set up, with Firebug and various other development tools. I test there first. Generally*****, once i've fixed any errors or warnings, I do not run into problems on any of the other major browsers - i'm of the opinion that your development and testing environment should be strict for this reason; a browser that lets errors slip past undetected is a browser that encourages you to inflict them on your end-users who use other browsers. Note that by default, Firefox is fairly lax when it comes to errors and hides most warnings. You can turn on JS warnings and strict warnings using about:config or the Console Options menu in Firebug - be aware, strict warnings are very strict... *naturally, this falls apart when i need to use a separate API for IE - selection and text ranges fall into this category.
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You're right. These facts that you've laid out totally contradict the wild ramblings that I pulled off the back of cornflakes packets.
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And I'm an advocate for testing your web applications in the four major browsers: 1. IE 2. Firefox 3. Safari 4. Chrome I recently had a Javascript error in my page and I used: IE 7 - Did not break the page - This is why I love IE. It hides bad developers' mistakes :) IE 8 - Broke the page but did not report the error Firefox 3.0.3 - Broke the page but did not report the error in the error console Chrome - Broke the page and reported the error! I was not a big fan of Chrome at first. I taught it was a Firefox clone. But because of this I might jump on the Google bandwagon. :)
There is no particular one that is better than the other. You should test on all of the major browsers to ensure your app is going to do what it is supposed to.
"The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon "Not only do you continue to babble nonsense, you can't even correctly remember the nonsense you babbled just minutes ago." - Rob Graham
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kjmcsd wrote:
This is why I love IE. It hides bad developers' mistakes
Surely just writing good code is better? And at the same time it breaks pretty much every standard that the other, "Mozilla-based" browsers conform to. In my opinion it's a nightmare, and it is a burden that it has the dominant web browser market share. I personally use Opera and Firefox because of their development tools, as well as the fact that they run much faster than IE, although I periodically make sure my code works in IE and several other browsers such as Chrome and Safari just to make sure it's cross-browser compatible. Regards, --Perspx
"I've got my kids brainwashed: You don't use Google, and you don't use an iPod." - Steve Ballmer
"Some people have told me they don't think a fat penguin really embodies the grace of Linux, which just tells me they have never seen an angry penguin charging at them in excess of 100mph." - Linus TorvaldsHi Perspx. Long time no see :-D
Perspx wrote:
although I periodically make sure my code works in IE
I don't think so because I've seen some website(codes) that work in FF3, Opera but it didn't work in IE6 well. :(
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kjmcsd wrote:
This is why I love IE. It hides bad developers' mistakes
Surely just writing good code is better? And at the same time it breaks pretty much every standard that the other, "Mozilla-based" browsers conform to. In my opinion it's a nightmare, and it is a burden that it has the dominant web browser market share. I personally use Opera and Firefox because of their development tools, as well as the fact that they run much faster than IE, although I periodically make sure my code works in IE and several other browsers such as Chrome and Safari just to make sure it's cross-browser compatible. Regards, --Perspx
"I've got my kids brainwashed: You don't use Google, and you don't use an iPod." - Steve Ballmer
"Some people have told me they don't think a fat penguin really embodies the grace of Linux, which just tells me they have never seen an angry penguin charging at them in excess of 100mph." - Linus TorvaldsHow do you get to test on Safari? Do you own a Apple mac, or is there some way in which I can install it onto Windows? Also, how do I get a copy of IE6 on my PC? I am currently running IE7, it's just for testing purposes. Thanks Brendan
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And I'm an advocate for testing your web applications in the four major browsers: 1. IE 2. Firefox 3. Safari 4. Chrome I recently had a Javascript error in my page and I used: IE 7 - Did not break the page - This is why I love IE. It hides bad developers' mistakes :) IE 8 - Broke the page but did not report the error Firefox 3.0.3 - Broke the page but did not report the error in the error console Chrome - Broke the page and reported the error! I was not a big fan of Chrome at first. I taught it was a Firefox clone. But because of this I might jump on the Google bandwagon. :)
The best browser for web development is the one your customer will use.
I'm waiting for Windows Feng Shui, where you have to re-arrange your icons in a manner which best enables your application to run. Richard Jones
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How do you get to test on Safari? Do you own a Apple mac, or is there some way in which I can install it onto Windows? Also, how do I get a copy of IE6 on my PC? I am currently running IE7, it's just for testing purposes. Thanks Brendan
Apple have a Windows version of Safari available to download. A search for IE6 for testing returns some promising results also. Regards, --Perspx
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