WindowsXP Omissions
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I recently set up a WinXP Peer-to-Peer network; it takes some getting used to, but it's really a lot nicer OS than I expected. One thing I've discovered, though, that I find quite puzzling, is that there is no obvious way to set up internal email. Searches of Google, MSDN, Technet, and Windows Help return only instructions for Internet email, or steps for integrating with Exchange. No business I know of here (except my previous employer) is large enough to afford a server, or Exchange, but they all want to be able to email coworkers in the office. It seems bizarre to me that MS would leave this basic a function out of the product. I know that, without the promise of interoffice email, my former employer would never have allowed me to spend the $300 necessary to connect their first network, so it certainly is an inducement. Once they discovered the convenience of interoffice mail, they quickly expanded to 20 PCs (and 20 OS sales for MS). I'm still certain it's in there somewhere, and I'm just too dumb to find it, yet in the MS Technet newsgroups, even a MS Expert has been unable to suggest a way to provide this capability. One helpful soul suggested installing MS Mail from an old Win98 CD, but that's the best response I've heard so far:-) My question - Are there any other critical functions missing in WinXP that you know of? A New Adjective Is Born!
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I recently set up a WinXP Peer-to-Peer network; it takes some getting used to, but it's really a lot nicer OS than I expected. One thing I've discovered, though, that I find quite puzzling, is that there is no obvious way to set up internal email. Searches of Google, MSDN, Technet, and Windows Help return only instructions for Internet email, or steps for integrating with Exchange. No business I know of here (except my previous employer) is large enough to afford a server, or Exchange, but they all want to be able to email coworkers in the office. It seems bizarre to me that MS would leave this basic a function out of the product. I know that, without the promise of interoffice email, my former employer would never have allowed me to spend the $300 necessary to connect their first network, so it certainly is an inducement. Once they discovered the convenience of interoffice mail, they quickly expanded to 20 PCs (and 20 OS sales for MS). I'm still certain it's in there somewhere, and I'm just too dumb to find it, yet in the MS Technet newsgroups, even a MS Expert has been unable to suggest a way to provide this capability. One helpful soul suggested installing MS Mail from an old Win98 CD, but that's the best response I've heard so far:-) My question - Are there any other critical functions missing in WinXP that you know of? A New Adjective Is Born!
Roger Wright wrote: Are there any other critical functions missing in WinXP that you know of? Speed and ease of use :-D Michael :-) Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana
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Roger Wright wrote: Are there any other critical functions missing in WinXP that you know of? Speed and ease of use :-D Michael :-) Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana
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Roger Wright wrote: Are there any other critical functions missing in WinXP that you know of? Speed and ease of use :-D Michael :-) Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana
Yeah, Win 3.1 rulez :) Tomasz Sowinski -- http://www.shooltz.com
"Yields falsehood when preceded by its quotation" yields falsehood when preceded by its quotation.
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Roger Wright wrote: Are there any other critical functions missing in WinXP that you know of? Speed and ease of use :-D Michael :-) Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana
ROTFLMAO! Really, Michael, it's not that bad, is it? I really like the nearly instantaneous startup... I though Win2K was a big improvement, but XP really impresses me so far. A New Adjective Is Born!
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ROTFLMAO! Really, Michael, it's not that bad, is it? I really like the nearly instantaneous startup... I though Win2K was a big improvement, but XP really impresses me so far. A New Adjective Is Born!
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I recently set up a WinXP Peer-to-Peer network; it takes some getting used to, but it's really a lot nicer OS than I expected. One thing I've discovered, though, that I find quite puzzling, is that there is no obvious way to set up internal email. Searches of Google, MSDN, Technet, and Windows Help return only instructions for Internet email, or steps for integrating with Exchange. No business I know of here (except my previous employer) is large enough to afford a server, or Exchange, but they all want to be able to email coworkers in the office. It seems bizarre to me that MS would leave this basic a function out of the product. I know that, without the promise of interoffice email, my former employer would never have allowed me to spend the $300 necessary to connect their first network, so it certainly is an inducement. Once they discovered the convenience of interoffice mail, they quickly expanded to 20 PCs (and 20 OS sales for MS). I'm still certain it's in there somewhere, and I'm just too dumb to find it, yet in the MS Technet newsgroups, even a MS Expert has been unable to suggest a way to provide this capability. One helpful soul suggested installing MS Mail from an old Win98 CD, but that's the best response I've heard so far:-) My question - Are there any other critical functions missing in WinXP that you know of? A New Adjective Is Born!
Roger Wright wrote: Are there any other critical functions missing in WinXP that you know of ??? 1_ Windows messenger problem: Only accounts with administrator rights can use Windows messenger. :( 2_ SQL server 2000: I can't install SQL server 2000. I am getting error that server components not installed. 3_ TCP Port 5000: My socket based applications can't use TCP port 5000. The exception is raised that this port is already in use. When i run netstat command, it shows that no port is use. Only netstat command with some unusual parameters inform that "something" is using port 5000 4_ Socket APIs: Some microsoft specific winsock extension functions and APIs are not behaving in a manner that microsoft promised before release of WinXP. I observed no boost in performance while accepting connections using
AcceptExor the traditional Accept loop Imran Farooqui World first Urdu Instant Messenger[^] -
I recently set up a WinXP Peer-to-Peer network; it takes some getting used to, but it's really a lot nicer OS than I expected. One thing I've discovered, though, that I find quite puzzling, is that there is no obvious way to set up internal email. Searches of Google, MSDN, Technet, and Windows Help return only instructions for Internet email, or steps for integrating with Exchange. No business I know of here (except my previous employer) is large enough to afford a server, or Exchange, but they all want to be able to email coworkers in the office. It seems bizarre to me that MS would leave this basic a function out of the product. I know that, without the promise of interoffice email, my former employer would never have allowed me to spend the $300 necessary to connect their first network, so it certainly is an inducement. Once they discovered the convenience of interoffice mail, they quickly expanded to 20 PCs (and 20 OS sales for MS). I'm still certain it's in there somewhere, and I'm just too dumb to find it, yet in the MS Technet newsgroups, even a MS Expert has been unable to suggest a way to provide this capability. One helpful soul suggested installing MS Mail from an old Win98 CD, but that's the best response I've heard so far:-) My question - Are there any other critical functions missing in WinXP that you know of? A New Adjective Is Born!
The Java Virtual Machine is missing, its not included in the installation disks however you used to be able to download it from Windows update but Microsoft have now withdrawn it :mad: although they have said they will include in in the CD/DVD version of SP1 :mad: You won't have problems unless you want to install something like Visual Studio V6 which requires it - in which case you are probably stuffed :mad: VS6 tries to install its own version & screws up Windows XP. :mad: You can download & install the Sun version of Virtual Machine - won't work with VS6 though :confused: JohnJ X| Life is hard and then you die! X| http://www.rainbow-innov.co.uk[^]
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Roger Wright wrote: Are there any other critical functions missing in WinXP that you know of ??? 1_ Windows messenger problem: Only accounts with administrator rights can use Windows messenger. :( 2_ SQL server 2000: I can't install SQL server 2000. I am getting error that server components not installed. 3_ TCP Port 5000: My socket based applications can't use TCP port 5000. The exception is raised that this port is already in use. When i run netstat command, it shows that no port is use. Only netstat command with some unusual parameters inform that "something" is using port 5000 4_ Socket APIs: Some microsoft specific winsock extension functions and APIs are not behaving in a manner that microsoft promised before release of WinXP. I observed no boost in performance while accepting connections using
AcceptExor the traditional Accept loop Imran Farooqui World first Urdu Instant Messenger[^]Imran Farooqui wrote: 2_ SQL server 2000: I can't install SQL server 2000. I am getting error that server components not installed. Unless you're running the personal edition (or whatever it's called), you have to be running a server version of the OS. Jon Sagara Red Swingline Staplers
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The Java Virtual Machine is missing, its not included in the installation disks however you used to be able to download it from Windows update but Microsoft have now withdrawn it :mad: although they have said they will include in in the CD/DVD version of SP1 :mad: You won't have problems unless you want to install something like Visual Studio V6 which requires it - in which case you are probably stuffed :mad: VS6 tries to install its own version & screws up Windows XP. :mad: You can download & install the Sun version of Virtual Machine - won't work with VS6 though :confused: JohnJ X| Life is hard and then you die! X| http://www.rainbow-innov.co.uk[^]
I have VS6 installed on my XP box and both work fine. Did you install VJ++? Later, Nathan --------------------------- Shoe stores and Electronics Stores are similar in a couple of ways: 1. Their main customers can spend hours and hours looking at everything in them. 2. Their main customers' spouses can spend hours and hours trying not to look bored witless.
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I have VS6 installed on my XP box and both work fine. Did you install VJ++? Later, Nathan --------------------------- Shoe stores and Electronics Stores are similar in a couple of ways: 1. Their main customers can spend hours and hours looking at everything in them. 2. Their main customers' spouses can spend hours and hours trying not to look bored witless.
VJ++ :wtf: No definitely not - only VC & VB. Its happened to me a few times since XP's release - the first couple of times because I didn't download VM from Windows update by choice & then let VS6 install its own copy. Last time was when I realized they had withdrawn it & it was worth another try before I downgraded to W2K. Have you tried reinstalling XP recently (ie in the last month) :suss: JohnJ X| Life is hard and then you die! X| http://www.rainbow-innov.co.uk[^]
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Imran Farooqui wrote: 2_ SQL server 2000: I can't install SQL server 2000. I am getting error that server components not installed. Unless you're running the personal edition (or whatever it's called), you have to be running a server version of the OS. Jon Sagara Red Swingline Staplers
SQL Server 2k works on winxp home edition without a problem. You can also install apache without a problem. The problem might be with services you have disabled. If you haven't messed with the services manager then maybe your registry is corrupt or certain windows files have been overwritten with corrupted versions.
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Imran Farooqui wrote: 2_ SQL server 2000: I can't install SQL server 2000. I am getting error that server components not installed. Unless you're running the personal edition (or whatever it's called), you have to be running a server version of the OS. Jon Sagara Red Swingline Staplers
You have to install either the Personal Edition or the Developer Edition. I have SQL 2K Devloper running on XP pro. It's the same as the Enterprise Edition except for the licensing and doesn't allow as many connections I think. Jason Gerard
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SQL Server 2k works on winxp home edition without a problem. You can also install apache without a problem. The problem might be with services you have disabled. If you haven't messed with the services manager then maybe your registry is corrupt or certain windows files have been overwritten with corrupted versions.
I'll take your word for it. I tried to install it on Win2k Pro and got the same error message, so I assumed it was the same for XP Pro. Jon Sagara Red Swingline Staplers
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ROTFLMAO! Really, Michael, it's not that bad, is it? I really like the nearly instantaneous startup... I though Win2K was a big improvement, but XP really impresses me so far. A New Adjective Is Born!
Roger Wright wrote: I really like the nearly instantaneous startup... I was joking, XP is pretty sweet. I have no real gripes with XP as long as you run it on a state of the art machine. Anything less and the graphical improvements start to slow the system down. Michael :-) Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana
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VJ++ :wtf: No definitely not - only VC & VB. Its happened to me a few times since XP's release - the first couple of times because I didn't download VM from Windows update by choice & then let VS6 install its own copy. Last time was when I realized they had withdrawn it & it was worth another try before I downgraded to W2K. Have you tried reinstalling XP recently (ie in the last month) :suss: JohnJ X| Life is hard and then you die! X| http://www.rainbow-innov.co.uk[^]
I just recently reinstalled XP. I think it was at the beginning of July. When did they pull the VM? Perhaps, I am not using the same features of VC & VB that you are using? Cause both of those work fine. I have VS6 and VS.NET both running smoothly over WinXP. Later, Nathan --------------------------- Hmmm... what's a signature?
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I just recently reinstalled XP. I think it was at the beginning of July. When did they pull the VM? Perhaps, I am not using the same features of VC & VB that you are using? Cause both of those work fine. I have VS6 and VS.NET both running smoothly over WinXP. Later, Nathan --------------------------- Hmmm... what's a signature?
Well I reinstalled on 20th July - Microsoft withdrew VM about 10th July, although they now promise to re-release it real soon now for those who need it. I've just found this [^] on the Microsoft site which does give some info on availability :suss: It doesn't seem to mention the VS6 problems, but I would have expected that :rolleyes: If you don't need to reinstall XP then you have no worries, but if you do then maybe you should think about going down to W2K for development purposes and just use XP for testing until Microsoft get their act together and release a replacement. :(( Don't get me wrong, I'm not anti-XP - I was most frustrated having to go backwards but the damn thing wouldn't work with VS6 any more after almost a year of Beta/release versions :mad: Roll on SP1 or some sort of downloadable VM please.. :|:|:| JohnJ X| Life is hard and then you die! X| http://www.rainbow-innov.co.uk[^]