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  • M Mustafa Ismail Mustafa

    This is not revenge, its a punishment that fits the crime. Or as much as possible.

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    Sig history "dad" Ishmail-Samuel Mustafa Unix is a Four Letter Word, and Vi is a Two Letter Abbreviation

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    Paul Watson
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    Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:

    This is not revenge, its a punishment that fits the crime. Or as much as possible.

    Wanting someone to go to prison so that they will be beaten, raped and possibly killed is revenge, not punishment. Punishment must have a constructive goal to be punishment and not revenge.

    cheers, Paul M. Watson.

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    • D Dalek Dave

      It's funny, I too am a father, and if anyone did that to my son, I would kill them, slowly. I would do time for murder, but it would be no bother to me.

      ------------------------------------ We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office. - Aesop

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      Paul Watson
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      Dalek Dave wrote:

      I would do time for murder, but it would be no bother to me.

      Your wife? Your family? Your friends and society? They would suffer again for your revenge.

      cheers, Paul M. Watson.

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        Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:

        This is not revenge, its a punishment that fits the crime. Or as much as possible.

        Wanting someone to go to prison so that they will be beaten, raped and possibly killed is revenge, not punishment. Punishment must have a constructive goal to be punishment and not revenge.

        cheers, Paul M. Watson.

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        Dan Neely
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        It does have a constructive goal. Once dead there's absolutely zero risk of this scum ever murdering another baby. Something that cannot be said as long as they continue to foul the air we breathe.

        Today's lesson is brought to you by the word "niggardly". Remember kids, don't attribute to racism what can be explained by Scandinavian language roots. -- Robert Royall

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        • P Paul Watson

          Well, I'd be imprisoned for a long, long time and hopefully be rehabilitated. I'd want to be set to work though, not just sat in a cell and expect to be miraculously rehabilitated. I should be shown the horror of my crime everyday and given the chance, skills and guidance to help, to grow an awareness of my actions and inactions. I've been thinking about this sort of thing for the past 13 months now (since I learned I was to be a father.) What would I want if someone harmed my child. I don't want revenge, I don't want an eye for an eye, I don't want anyone else to suffer anymore than my child, my partner and I have suffered. I want whomever harmed my child to become fully aware of the pain they caused and then for them to change their life around and contribute to society. That would be the sweetest revenge. "Feel our pain, see what you have done to us." Torturing that man who tortured the child would have only a detrimental affect on him. He would see it as a continuation of the existence in his own head, a world of pain and madness. It would push him further away from society and his own actions would only become worse. It would also debase the torturer and society further.

          cheers, Paul M. Watson.

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          Bassam Abdul Baki
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          Why? Can you guarantee that he won't do it again? Usually, these people don't get rehabilitated. It's happened before and it will happen again. So why risk it? I'm not condoning torture, but the death penalty or life in prison with absolutely no possibility for parole.


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          • D Dalek Dave

            It's funny, I too am a father, and if anyone did that to my son, I would kill them, slowly. I would do time for murder, but it would be no bother to me.

            ------------------------------------ We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office. - Aesop

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            Bassam Abdul Baki
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            Agreed. Why do people worry too much about the crazies well-being when they usually can't be rehabilitated. Like the Austrian pedophile father who's acting as if he's remorseful.


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            • L Lost User

              Dalek Dave wrote:

              I would do time for murder, but it would be no bother to me.

              To quote your words "Actually, a well publicised flogging might make others think before doing it!" But it has been proven time and time again that deterrents generally don't work.

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              Bassam Abdul Baki
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              And rehabilitation works less. I wouldn't want such a person close to where I live, and I wouldn't want them put altogether on an island where they can procreate.


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              • N NormDroid

                Like I keep saying, "Bring back hanging".

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                Bassam Abdul Baki
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                The guillotine was more fun.


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                • L Lost User

                  Dalek Dave wrote:

                  I would do time for murder, but it would be no bother to me.

                  To quote your words "Actually, a well publicised flogging might make others think before doing it!" But it has been proven time and time again that deterrents generally don't work.

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                  Roger Wright
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                  Richard A. Abbott wrote:

                  deterrents generally don't work.

                  Perhaps, but it's 100% certain that dead perps won't commit any more crimes.

                  "A Journey of a Thousand Rest Stops Begins with a Single Movement"

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                  • R Roger Wright

                    Richard A. Abbott wrote:

                    deterrents generally don't work.

                    Perhaps, but it's 100% certain that dead perps won't commit any more crimes.

                    "A Journey of a Thousand Rest Stops Begins with a Single Movement"

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                    Lost User
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                    And it is 100% certain that if you chop both hands from a pick-pocket, he/she won't do pick-pocketing again. Will that be a deterrent ? Probably not, as often demonstrated in Saudi Arabia by their chopping off of one hand.

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                    • P Paul Watson

                      Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:

                      I would hesitate a 1,000,000,000 times before pronouncing that on anyone. Its not an easy choice.

                      But you'd spend 1,000,000,000 less time on knowingly sending someone to prison where they may be raped, beaten and possibly killed?

                      cheers, Paul M. Watson.

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                      Mustafa Ismail Mustafa
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                      Yes, because the object of prison is not so that hardknocks can duke it out in something that ends up being akin to survival of the fittest. Its a flaw, I agree and it does need to be fixed.

                      Don't forget to vote if the response was helpful


                      Sig history "dad" Ishmail-Samuel Mustafa Unix is a Four Letter Word, and Vi is a Two Letter Abbreviation

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