Sunburn:Son't believe everything you hear
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It does happen. A woman from the UK was rushed home from Tenerife recently with second degree burns, having been in the sun just a couple of hours without protection. Anybody who goes out into harsh sun without protection is just asking for it. "Oh, I want a nice healthy tan to show off when I get home". Bah! Tans are not healthy at all, they are the body's defence mechanism against the sun. IMHO, the mother was definately in the wrong, but jail is a bit far.
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SIMON WALTON
SONORK ID 100.10024True - years ago when I was having pyshiotherapy (for arthritis) they pyshiotherapist told me about a guy who went to Sapin every years and fell alsppe in the sun. Being a severe redhead he got burns and was carried back shortly afterward theny pyshio had to sort out the mobility problems caused by the samaged skin. Oh, and he got drunk before falling asleep face down in the spanish sun. Sunds like a Drawin award candidate ! Elaint (pale fluffy tigress emoticon) Would you like to meet my teddy bear ?
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Mad dogs and English men. The English are at heart wimps when it comes to hot weather. Look at all the old movies. they have more yards of cloth wrapped around their head than it takes to hang curtains in Windsor Castle. Not to mention those wimpy looking pith hats that they all wear if they are anywhere near the tropics along with the shorts and sandals and button down shirts with club ties- quite the proper looking jungle outfit.( note that while all around them are suffereing from the heat that they not only DO NOT SWEAT their clothes also remain crisp and pressed ) Sunburn is too good for them. As to sunburn in England itself - one would really have to strive to attain a decent tan - let along a burn - in what they call "Summer weather" :) Richard Between believing a thing and thinking you know is only a small step and quickly taken. Mark Twain- 3,000 Years Among the Microbes
Lol. Well... we do have some hot days, just not as many as the cold wet ones, and as Josh pointed out I have a very fair complexion which means the slightest bit of sun will cause me problems. :)
David Wulff http://www.davidwulff.co.uk
I'm not schizophrenic, are we.
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David Wulff wrote: Oh boy I am gonna get it for this, but this one line sums it up perfectly: Oh, i'll bet. If you can't even manage to compose gramatically correct sentences after being imprisoned and having your children taken away from you, what sort of a mother could you be? David Wulff wrote: I can get very seriously burnt if I go out in the midday sun for as little as a few hours without protection Not to make big a thing out of it, but as you've admitted on several occasions, you have somewhat of a light complexion, and are none too used to sunny days. These kids were camping out on the fairgrounds in Ohio; i think it's safe to say they'd probably be used to a bit of sun.
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Shog9 Actually I use to find learning in bars when drinking really useful. It sort of makes a language liquid. - Colin Davies, Thinking in English?
Shog9 wrote: If you can't even manage to compose gramatically correct sentences after being imprisoned and having your children taken away from you, what sort of a mother could you be? That wasn't quite what I meant, you have to think further back to the bigger discussion on the matter (I think it was about 6 months back, probably started by Paul as all good topics are ;P). As to the rest, yes I do burn easily (though I managed to tan during my week in the sun a month and a bit ago, which is definately a first for me). But as you yourself pointed out, I am talking about me here - I was making no reference to "these kids". I was talking to Richard, not commenting on the topic.
David Wulff http://www.davidwulff.co.uk
I'm not schizophrenic, are we.
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Shog9 wrote: If you can't even manage to compose gramatically correct sentences after being imprisoned and having your children taken away from you, what sort of a mother could you be? That wasn't quite what I meant, you have to think further back to the bigger discussion on the matter (I think it was about 6 months back, probably started by Paul as all good topics are ;P). As to the rest, yes I do burn easily (though I managed to tan during my week in the sun a month and a bit ago, which is definately a first for me). But as you yourself pointed out, I am talking about me here - I was making no reference to "these kids". I was talking to Richard, not commenting on the topic.
David Wulff http://www.davidwulff.co.uk
I'm not schizophrenic, are we.
David Wulff wrote: you have to think further back to the bigger discussion on the matter Hmm, neither memory nor Lounge involvement stretch back that far. But it sounds an ugly can 'o worms, so i'll let it be... David Wulff wrote: I was talking to Richard, not commenting on the topic. Fair 'nuff :)
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Shog9 Actually I use to find learning in bars when drinking really useful. It sort of makes a language liquid. - Colin Davies, Thinking in English?
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Well that may have been an overreaction on the part of the local authorities, however... Dude, I live in Maine. Not the hottest of places and I've had second degree burns from just a few hours out in the July sun. There's not much that sucks as much as having blisters on your forehead, face, neck, shoulders, and upper arms. X| Of course that had nothing to do with the half gallon of Jack my buddy and I were drinking like water... :~ Josh Knox that-guy.net
I'm from next door in "balmy" New Brunswick, and have had many sunburns (from being out in the field with the army) year round, not just summer. Yeah, I'm just THAT stupid I keep forgetting sunscreen when it's +5 :cool: It also appears to me that "child endangerment" now includes bringing your kids to a shopping mall parking lot, evidenced by last week's kidnapping. What's a mother have to do, pack 'em back in the womb while she's shopping? Sheesh:confused:
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Ryan Johnston wrote: She was in jail for 8 days already? I think that is more than sufficient punishment for her neglect (especially since the burns only turned out to be first degree burns). I still think it was stupid for her to have had her kids (at such a young age) without sun screen There is NO law requiring the use of sunscreen. Possibly she could not even afford sunscreen - we don't know the circumstances. I live in Texas and don't use the stuff. The point is, or the point should be, when did it become aginst the law to be stupid. I am sure that the larger part of the population and more than a few from this forum would be incarcerated if this was true. If I were her I would have an attorney sueing the bejabbers out of the country bumkin cop and anyone else involved. Ryan Johnston wrote: I sure did. I grew up in a desert. I got plenty of sun burns growing up. And did your mother go to jail ? I doubt it. I am just fed up to the gills with this Zero Tolerance crapola and wannabe district attorneys and self serving cops that think a gun and a badge make them arbitrators of justice. Hell if they had any sense they would be in another occupation anyway. :) Richard Between believing a thing and thinking you know is only a small step and quickly taken. Mark Twain- 3,000 Years Among the Microbes
Richard Stringer wrote: The point is, or the point should be, when did it become aginst the law to be stupid. SO true. It's not against the law to put a dog in the microwave (or isn't that stupid), hell sue the bastard who produced the microwave becaus he did not warn you :) However... putting her in jail is way out of line. If you think the kids are in danger bring them to a hospital, bringing the mother to jail does not help anyone.
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David Wulff wrote: you have to think further back to the bigger discussion on the matter Hmm, neither memory nor Lounge involvement stretch back that far. But it sounds an ugly can 'o worms, so i'll let it be... David Wulff wrote: I was talking to Richard, not commenting on the topic. Fair 'nuff :)
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Shog9 Actually I use to find learning in bars when drinking really useful. It sort of makes a language liquid. - Colin Davies, Thinking in English?
Shog9 wrote: Hmm, neither memory nor Lounge involvement stretch back that far. But it sounds an ugly can 'o worms, so i'll let it be... It wasn't that bad, it was more along the lines of having all children neutered at birth using a temporary method (i.e. can be reversed if they ever want to have children). Easily the vast majority of babies are not planed, so this would not only help the 'parents' but also cut down on the number of children who should not be here (ones that are not wanted and are never loved completely) who usually end up entering into society from the wrong end and with a twisted perspective. Win-win for everyone. Shog9 wrote: Fair 'nuff !! David is being pathetic pedantic alert !! The ' in 'nuff is indicating a missing character, the 'e', so do you spell enough enuff?
David Wulff http://www.davidwulff.co.uk
I'm not schizophrenic, are we.
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About the mom and the sunburned kids. As I said yesterday - it was a bunch of baloney. Collasped lungs ? Second degree burns ? Some of you people don't live in a area where sunburn is common. It would take a lot of time fully exposed to do that kind of damage even to a child. Click for the real deal Richard Between believing a thing and thinking you know is only a small step and quickly taken. Mark Twain- 3,000 Years Among the Microbes
Richard Stringer wrote: Some of you people don't live in a area where sunburn is common. Come to Australia, the home of the ozone hole and sun that makes your pussy Yankee sun look...well...gay. Richard Stringer wrote: It would take a lot of time fully exposed to do that kind of damage even to a child. No it wouldn't. I'mm 33 and lived in the sun my whole life. Last Saturday I spent a few hours with my son at his soccer gala day. It is winter here and I was sunburnt when I got home. If it's a hot summer day and they were kids 2 hours would be all that is needed to burn them to a crisp. As far as the collapsed lung goes, it sounds like a load of bullshit. While the case sounds strange, the whole US legal system probably would allow for the sherrif to be sued for allowing the abuse to continue. It sounds more feasible than the coffee is too hot, it we all know what happened there. Michael Martin Australia mjm68@tpg.com.au "I personally love it because I can get as down and dirty as I want on the backend, while also being able to dabble with fun scripting and presentation games on the front end." - Chris Maunder 15/07/2002
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Ryan Johnston wrote: She was in jail for 8 days already? I think that is more than sufficient punishment for her neglect (especially since the burns only turned out to be first degree burns). I still think it was stupid for her to have had her kids (at such a young age) without sun screen There is NO law requiring the use of sunscreen. Possibly she could not even afford sunscreen - we don't know the circumstances. I live in Texas and don't use the stuff. The point is, or the point should be, when did it become aginst the law to be stupid. I am sure that the larger part of the population and more than a few from this forum would be incarcerated if this was true. If I were her I would have an attorney sueing the bejabbers out of the country bumkin cop and anyone else involved. Ryan Johnston wrote: I sure did. I grew up in a desert. I got plenty of sun burns growing up. And did your mother go to jail ? I doubt it. I am just fed up to the gills with this Zero Tolerance crapola and wannabe district attorneys and self serving cops that think a gun and a badge make them arbitrators of justice. Hell if they had any sense they would be in another occupation anyway. :) Richard Between believing a thing and thinking you know is only a small step and quickly taken. Mark Twain- 3,000 Years Among the Microbes
Richard Stringer wrote: There is NO law requiring the use of sunscreen. Possibly she could not even afford sunscreen - we don't know the circumstances.....The point is, or the point should be, when did it become aginst the law to be stupid. That's right, and why is it a crime to leave your kids locked up in closed car on a hot day. Richard Stringer wrote: I live in Texas and don't use the stuff. Great point. Your being stupid and hurting yourself. She's being stupid and hurting her kids who don't know better and can't do anything about it. Richard Stringer wrote: If I were her I would have an attorney sueing the bejabbers out of the country bumkin cop and anyone else involved. Yeehaaa. I'm stupid and the constitution gives me the right to be stupid and make you pay for it. Michael Martin Australia mjm68@tpg.com.au "I personally love it because I can get as down and dirty as I want on the backend, while also being able to dabble with fun scripting and presentation games on the front end." - Chris Maunder 15/07/2002
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Shog9 wrote: Hmm, neither memory nor Lounge involvement stretch back that far. But it sounds an ugly can 'o worms, so i'll let it be... It wasn't that bad, it was more along the lines of having all children neutered at birth using a temporary method (i.e. can be reversed if they ever want to have children). Easily the vast majority of babies are not planed, so this would not only help the 'parents' but also cut down on the number of children who should not be here (ones that are not wanted and are never loved completely) who usually end up entering into society from the wrong end and with a twisted perspective. Win-win for everyone. Shog9 wrote: Fair 'nuff !! David is being pathetic pedantic alert !! The ' in 'nuff is indicating a missing character, the 'e', so do you spell enough enuff?
David Wulff http://www.davidwulff.co.uk
I'm not schizophrenic, are we.
David Wulff wrote: The ' in 'nuff is indicating a missing character, the 'e', so do you spell enough enuff? *shog glares at the screen through blood-shot eyes.* No. I spell 'nuff "'nuff", and enough "enough", and wouldn't for the life of me spell "enuff". What were you thinking?
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Shog9 Actually I use to find learning in bars when drinking really useful. It sort of makes a language liquid. - Colin Davies, Thinking in English?