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  • I Ilion

    Why can you not "think" outside your stupid little box? Why do you imagine I care about your brain-dead "liberal" hypocritical talking points? What ever gave you the impression that I will ever be on the defensive when you "liberals" start spewing their hypocrisy and/or non-sense?

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    soap brain
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    Sorry, what's the 'mind' again? I forgot what your definition was.

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      Why does the thought of same sex relationships bother you? Hatred is bred from fear, and fear from self realisation of weakness. Should not we all become tolerant and accepting of people, working in peace and harmony regardless of their orientation/sexuality/sex/gender/colour/beliefs/politics etc. Or should we continue to be divisive and obedient to book thumping, intolerant, biased, politico/religious bigots?

      ------------------------------------ We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office. - Aesop

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      soap brain
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      Dalek Dave wrote:

      Why does the thought of same sex relationships bother you?

      Because although he fancies himself a powerful mind, a genius of geniuses, he basically regurgitates other people's opinions and bristles whenever someone has the audacity to express a differing thought. He believes himself to be complex and tragically misunderstood, but he's actually very simple - he's a textbook narcissist.

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        Dalek Dave wrote:

        Why does the thought of same sex relationships bother you?

        Because although he fancies himself a powerful mind, a genius of geniuses, he basically regurgitates other people's opinions and bristles whenever someone has the audacity to express a differing thought. He believes himself to be complex and tragically misunderstood, but he's actually very simple - he's a textbook narcissist.

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        Dalek Dave
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        I thought it may be something like that. My personal view is that he is a closet homosexual who has yet to come to terms with his sexuality and rails at the thought. Either that or he is a twat.

        ------------------------------------ We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office. - Aesop

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        • D Dalek Dave

          I thought it may be something like that. My personal view is that he is a closet homosexual who has yet to come to terms with his sexuality and rails at the thought. Either that or he is a twat.

          ------------------------------------ We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office. - Aesop

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          soap brain
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          He's just another idiot possessed with delusional grandiosity. He's of the same ilk as those who target black people, Jews, women, etc. He just likes to hate.

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            He's just another idiot possessed with delusional grandiosity. He's of the same ilk as those who target black people, Jews, women, etc. He just likes to hate.

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            Ravel H. Joyce wrote:

            He's just another idiot possessed with delusional grandiosity

            I have delusions of adequacy!

            Ravel H. Joyce wrote:

            He's of the same ilk as those who target black people, Jews, women, etc

            As I said above, Fascist. He just takes his hate fantasy out on people who aren't him!

            ------------------------------------ We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office. - Aesop

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            • D Dalek Dave

              I thought it may be something like that. My personal view is that he is a closet homosexual who has yet to come to terms with his sexuality and rails at the thought. Either that or he is a twat.

              ------------------------------------ We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office. - Aesop

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              pseudonym67
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              Dalek Dave wrote:

              My personal view is that he is a closet homosexual who has yet to come to terms with his sexuality and rails at the thought. Either that or he is a twat.

              :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: My only regret is that I can only give you one five.

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              • D Dalek Dave

                Ravel H. Joyce wrote:

                He's just another idiot possessed with delusional grandiosity

                I have delusions of adequacy!

                Ravel H. Joyce wrote:

                He's of the same ilk as those who target black people, Jews, women, etc

                As I said above, Fascist. He just takes his hate fantasy out on people who aren't him!

                ------------------------------------ We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office. - Aesop

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                soap brain
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                There cannot possibly be a God - it would never allow one such as Troy to live while others who are a positive influence in the world suffer and die arbitrarily and irrelevantly.

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                • D Dalek Dave

                  I thought it may be something like that. My personal view is that he is a closet homosexual who has yet to come to terms with his sexuality and rails at the thought. Either that or he is a twat.

                  ------------------------------------ We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office. - Aesop

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                  Original message vanished but ... the link was Ilion Search[^]


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                  • D Dalek Dave

                    I assumed from you Constant harping on about this subject it was close to your heart. You are obsessed with commenting on other's lifestyles, and my views are as real and pertinent as yours. More so in fact as I don't preach division and disharmony, unlike the fascist views you expound.

                    ------------------------------------ We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office. - Aesop

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                    Oakman
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                    Dalek Dave wrote:

                    I assumed from you Constant harping on about this subject it was close to your heart.

                    Ilion likes a wide stance, that's all. You shouldn't read too much into it.

                    Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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                    • D Dalek Dave

                      Why does the thought of same sex relationships bother you? Hatred is bred from fear, and fear from self realisation of weakness. Should not we all become tolerant and accepting of people, working in peace and harmony regardless of their orientation/sexuality/sex/gender/colour/beliefs/politics etc. Or should we continue to be divisive and obedient to book thumping, intolerant, biased, politico/religious bigots?

                      ------------------------------------ We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office. - Aesop

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                      Stan Shannon
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                      Dalek Dave wrote:

                      Why does the thought of same sex relationships bother you?

                      Because it is being promoted as moral imperative which we must all be tolerant of. Why does it bother you that some people are bothered by same sex relationships? Is there some kind of new age orthodoxy that we are now all required to acknowledge?

                      Dalek Dave wrote:

                      Hatred is bred from fear, and fear from self realisation of weakness.

                      You do realize that statement is logically indefensible don't you? Did you actually go to school to learn that or did you read it on a blog somewhere?

                      Dalek Dave wrote:

                      Should not we all become tolerant and accepting of people, working in peace and harmony regardless of their orientation/sexuality/sex/gender/colour/beliefs/politics etc.

                      We have always done that. That is, until someone came along with a new moral imperative that they claimed the moral authority to force upon everyone else.

                      Dalek Dave wrote:

                      Or should we continue to be divisive and obedient to book thumping, intolerant, biased, politico/religious bigots?

                      Thats up to you, Dave. You are the bullying moral bigot in this scenario insisting that your views are better than everyone else's. Marriage has always been pretty much a male-female kind of a deal. Why does that bother you so much?

                      Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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                      • O Oakman

                        Dalek Dave wrote:

                        I assumed from you Constant harping on about this subject it was close to your heart.

                        Ilion likes a wide stance, that's all. You shouldn't read too much into it.

                        Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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                        Dalek Dave
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                        :laugh: I voted a 5 but in my heart it's a 20!

                        ------------------------------------ We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office. - Aesop

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                          And here's where you can see what a super web designer he is: http://home.sprintmail.com/~tdhailey/index.htm

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                            Dalek Dave wrote:

                            Why does the thought of same sex relationships bother you?

                            Because it is being promoted as moral imperative which we must all be tolerant of. Why does it bother you that some people are bothered by same sex relationships? Is there some kind of new age orthodoxy that we are now all required to acknowledge?

                            Dalek Dave wrote:

                            Hatred is bred from fear, and fear from self realisation of weakness.

                            You do realize that statement is logically indefensible don't you? Did you actually go to school to learn that or did you read it on a blog somewhere?

                            Dalek Dave wrote:

                            Should not we all become tolerant and accepting of people, working in peace and harmony regardless of their orientation/sexuality/sex/gender/colour/beliefs/politics etc.

                            We have always done that. That is, until someone came along with a new moral imperative that they claimed the moral authority to force upon everyone else.

                            Dalek Dave wrote:

                            Or should we continue to be divisive and obedient to book thumping, intolerant, biased, politico/religious bigots?

                            Thats up to you, Dave. You are the bullying moral bigot in this scenario insisting that your views are better than everyone else's. Marriage has always been pretty much a male-female kind of a deal. Why does that bother you so much?

                            Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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                            1. Tolerance is important, without it we become a judgemental, corrupt society, layered by how much of mainstream dogma we approve. 2) It is mine alone, and not logically indefensible. Where do you think hatred comes from? 3)

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                            We have always done that

                            Er, where were you during the History Lesson? Slavery, has been with us for 1000s's of years. It is even approved of in that bible thing. Antisemitism has been in Europe for 1000's of years too. The first use of the word Holocaust was when the Jews were banished from Britain in the 1300's. South Africa's Apartheid System? yes very tolerant, or do you agree with all these? 4) I did not state my views were more important, merely that I had them and a right to them. I can argue my views logically without resorting to 'Moral Argument' or dogmatic obedience.

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                              And here's where you can see what a super web designer he is: http://home.sprintmail.com/~tdhailey/index.htm

                              Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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                              Site needs plug-ins - nope, I'm not installing additional plug-ins just to see *his* website. But from what I can see, its awful. OT CP is so damned slow at the moment. I tried to edit my post before your response but CP just kept me waiting and waiting and I finally gave up. Don't know what Maunder and his team are doing but this site is getting almost unusable. Might be a bloody lot quicker to use pigeon post. :mad: Not only that but my post has vanished. I'm sure I didn't hit the delete key...

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                              • S Stan Shannon

                                Dalek Dave wrote:

                                Why does the thought of same sex relationships bother you?

                                Because it is being promoted as moral imperative which we must all be tolerant of. Why does it bother you that some people are bothered by same sex relationships? Is there some kind of new age orthodoxy that we are now all required to acknowledge?

                                Dalek Dave wrote:

                                Hatred is bred from fear, and fear from self realisation of weakness.

                                You do realize that statement is logically indefensible don't you? Did you actually go to school to learn that or did you read it on a blog somewhere?

                                Dalek Dave wrote:

                                Should not we all become tolerant and accepting of people, working in peace and harmony regardless of their orientation/sexuality/sex/gender/colour/beliefs/politics etc.

                                We have always done that. That is, until someone came along with a new moral imperative that they claimed the moral authority to force upon everyone else.

                                Dalek Dave wrote:

                                Or should we continue to be divisive and obedient to book thumping, intolerant, biased, politico/religious bigots?

                                Thats up to you, Dave. You are the bullying moral bigot in this scenario insisting that your views are better than everyone else's. Marriage has always been pretty much a male-female kind of a deal. Why does that bother you so much?

                                Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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                                What would a racist or a homophobe gain by being a conservative?

                                Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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                                  1. Tolerance is important, without it we become a judgemental, corrupt society, layered by how much of mainstream dogma we approve. 2) It is mine alone, and not logically indefensible. Where do you think hatred comes from? 3)

                                  Stan Shannon wrote:

                                  We have always done that

                                  Er, where were you during the History Lesson? Slavery, has been with us for 1000s's of years. It is even approved of in that bible thing. Antisemitism has been in Europe for 1000's of years too. The first use of the word Holocaust was when the Jews were banished from Britain in the 1300's. South Africa's Apartheid System? yes very tolerant, or do you agree with all these? 4) I did not state my views were more important, merely that I had them and a right to them. I can argue my views logically without resorting to 'Moral Argument' or dogmatic obedience.

                                  ------------------------------------ We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office. - Aesop

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                                  Stan Shannon
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                                  Dalek Dave wrote:

                                  1. Tolerance is important, without it we become a judgemental, corrupt society, layered by how much of mainstream dogma we approve. 2) It is mine alone, and not logically indefensible. Where do you think hatred comes from?

                                  Sorry, Dave, but all you are doing is creating a new moral imperative called 'tolerance' which encompasses exclusively a pre-determined set of behaviors which you think we should be tolerant of. It is no different than any form of judgementatlism baseed upon any other kind of moral imperative. You have achieved nothing. It is simply a new bunch of people telling another bunch of people that they suck. You simply through throw about emotionally charged accusations such as 'hatred' and 'weakness' to make your own moral imperative sound somehow superior to others. Oh, and btw, I think it is laughable for you to claim that the statement is 'yours alone'. Is it a bizarre conincidence that that same statmeent is repeated by every liberal on the planet? Come on, fess up, where did you get it from?

                                  Dalek Dave wrote:

                                  Er, where were you during the History Lesson? Slavery, has been with us for 1000s's of years. It is even approved of in that bible thing. Antisemitism has been in Europe for 1000's of years too. The first use of the word Holocaust was when the Jews were banished from Britain in the 1300's. South Africa's Apartheid System? yes very tolerant, or do you agree with all these?

                                  As long as you have civilization, you are going to have one group of people telling some other group of people how they are going to behave, otherwise your civilization will degrade into anarchy. We have always been tolerant of those things we are told we are supposed to be tolerant of.

                                  Dalek Dave wrote:

                                  1. I can argue my views logically without resorting to 'Moral Argument' or dogmatic obedience.

                                  As a matter of fact, you can't. No more so than any other moral absolutist.

                                  Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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                                    What would a racist or a homophobe gain by being a conservative?

                                    Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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                                    Stan Shannon
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                                    The question stands, Jon.

                                    Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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                                      Site needs plug-ins - nope, I'm not installing additional plug-ins just to see *his* website. But from what I can see, its awful. OT CP is so damned slow at the moment. I tried to edit my post before your response but CP just kept me waiting and waiting and I finally gave up. Don't know what Maunder and his team are doing but this site is getting almost unusable. Might be a bloody lot quicker to use pigeon post. :mad: Not only that but my post has vanished. I'm sure I didn't hit the delete key...

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                                      Richard A. Abbott wrote:

                                      But from what I can see, its awful

                                      It is a site any six year-old would be proud of.

                                      Richard A. Abbott wrote:

                                      Don't know what Maunder and his team are doing but this site is getting almost unusable

                                      It went totally off-line last night (my time) although I guess it came back up in time for Ileitis to spew forth some more trash. I was thinking that maybe Mumbai University handed out take-home midterms yesterday; that would explain the slowness, n'est-ce pas?

                                      Richard A. Abbott wrote:

                                      Not only that but my post has vanished

                                      You probably know you can edit a message deleted post if you wish

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                                      • O Oakman

                                        Dalek Dave wrote:

                                        I assumed from you Constant harping on about this subject it was close to your heart.

                                        Ilion likes a wide stance, that's all. You shouldn't read too much into it.

                                        Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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                                        R Giskard Reventlov
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                                        Oakman wrote:

                                        Ilion likes a wide stance

                                        Is that so he can more easily fit his head up his arse?

                                        me, me, me

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                                          And here's where you can see what a super web designer he is: http://home.sprintmail.com/~tdhailey/index.htm

                                          Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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                                          I saw a documentary once on a guy that designed gas chambers and electric chairs for the government to execute people with where he went to Germany to prove that the gas chambers never existed. He did this at the request of some skin head organization to prove the Holocaust never happened. Needless to say he wasn't very popular back in the states afterward. I think he moved to Canada. I've met people like that before. I guess you can act logical, but not make it part of your being.

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