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  • A alghawks

    Drew Stainton wrote:

    DevExpress' XtraReports[^] works for me.

    Speaking of abominations! ;) The problem with these frameworks is NOT in creating the reports. That's typically easy enough to do and one seems as good as another. It's if you have to go in and maintain or change them. They do SO much for you that fighting your way through the generated code to find what you need is a nightmare. It's easier to start over from scratch. I've spent many an hour in communication with DevExpress trying to resolve these issues.

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    Lost User
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    I tend to stay away from designers, wizards and such and just stick to writing code - forces you to learn their API and works better in the long run. Cheers, Drew.

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    • D Dave Thomson

      I've just started using this having tried MS and Crystal. So far so good! The help and suppoprt these guys offer is also outstanding.

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      Lost User
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      Yes, I quite like it (and their other stuff as well). Their support has been good for me as well. Cheers, Drew.

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      • L Lost User

        I tend to stay away from designers, wizards and such and just stick to writing code - forces you to learn their API and works better in the long run. Cheers, Drew.

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        alghawks
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        Hear, hear. Unfortunately, these days I'm making changes to existing systems. They're simple changes that would be MUCH easier on a people-coded report. :)

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        • M moon_stick

          I've been tasked with researching some alternatives to SQL Server Reporting Services and was wondering what experiences and recommendations anyone out there has? I've also seen a couple of add-ons for reporting services, some of which look quite promising - has anyone got any experience of these? PS Ideally not Crystal Reports - I had to use this in an old job and *hated* it!! Cheers

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          PIEBALDconsult
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          Most users just need a tabular list of data; for that, all the Reporting Frameworks are inappropriate, just not the right tool. If the goal is to have PDF: I used to have a Perl script that someone had written that would turn a text file into PDF.

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          • L Lost User

            DevExpress' XtraReports[^] works for me. Cheers, Drew.

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            Jordon4Kraftd
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            I can vouch for this reporting tool. It is completely customizable, actually built a TIFF reader from their printing system that comes with it. Just so i could take advantage of their PDF conversion and Emailing capabilities. It can go simple as dragging a table on and binding it to drawing everything through code. There help is great and fast, cost is negligent considering how many hours they have saved me because i was able to ask a question and get response next day. You can also purchase their source code as a option if you want to. Oh and creating a custom report (like a mailing letter) for the end user to do took me half a day to implement, customers love it when you give them power to re-size text and add logos, etc... Jordon Kraft

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            • J Jordon4Kraftd

              I can vouch for this reporting tool. It is completely customizable, actually built a TIFF reader from their printing system that comes with it. Just so i could take advantage of their PDF conversion and Emailing capabilities. It can go simple as dragging a table on and binding it to drawing everything through code. There help is great and fast, cost is negligent considering how many hours they have saved me because i was able to ask a question and get response next day. You can also purchase their source code as a option if you want to. Oh and creating a custom report (like a mailing letter) for the end user to do took me half a day to implement, customers love it when you give them power to re-size text and add logos, etc... Jordon Kraft

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              Lost User
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              I agree with everything you've said. The end-user stuff is great and the cost savings vs. building your own are huge. I license they're entire line of .NET products with source code (have for 3 years now) and love using it. Cheers, Drew.

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              • S spencepk

                I've used ActiveReports on previous contracts and found it much simpler to use than Crystal. It does just about everything that Crystal does, with a lot less bloat. The last time I priced the 2 products, ActiveReports cost a fraction of what Crystal is going for.

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                MAX_BG
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                You can try Telerik Reporting. It is fast, easy and developer oriented. And it comes in bundle with all the control suites for WPF, Silverligt, WinForms and asp.net those guys make. Aaaa and they now have quite impressive O/R mapper which spared me a lot of DAL plumbing.

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                • K KungFuCoder

                  What happened that nearly got you fired for using SQL Server Reporting Services ? I'm looking at using it for a current project as dropping a reportviewer out of visual studio takes care of the pdf export. If it's likely to do something that gets me fired then it'd be useful to know about it in advance. Thanks

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                  Bassam Abdul Baki
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                  I wasn't almost fired for using SQL SRS. I was almost fired for what I used SQL SRS for. Let's just say I got people in trouble. I was a wascally wabbit fow a weason. Let's just leave it at that.

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                    I've using SSRS for some time and find it largely adequate for most analysis based reporting. I agree with another reply about "dumbing down" some of the adhoc reporting tools. Our biggest problem with adhoc reporting in general is not the software to produce the reports but the retards producing them who have (apparently) no understanding of data quality or what they are doing from the larger sense. We constanly get back reports from our clients that such and such a report is "total crap". If it were up to me I ban adhoc reporting!

                    Go Shockers! -WuShock

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                    Bassam Abdul Baki
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                    There's your problem then. Retained retards who return no value.

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                    • M moon_stick

                      I've been tasked with researching some alternatives to SQL Server Reporting Services and was wondering what experiences and recommendations anyone out there has? I've also seen a couple of add-ons for reporting services, some of which look quite promising - has anyone got any experience of these? PS Ideally not Crystal Reports - I had to use this in an old job and *hated* it!! Cheers

                      It definitely isn't definatley

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                      MattPenner
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                      I've used Crystal Reports, Active Reports and SSRS on various projects in the past 7 years. I started to give my thoughts but it got really long! :) Each one really has their own pros and cons. So, if you're interested here's my blog post about it: http://mattpenner.info/2008/12/03/commercial-reporting-framework-comparisons/[^] Feel free to comment or state any corrections. Matt Penner

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                      • M moon_stick

                        I've been tasked with researching some alternatives to SQL Server Reporting Services and was wondering what experiences and recommendations anyone out there has? I've also seen a couple of add-ons for reporting services, some of which look quite promising - has anyone got any experience of these? PS Ideally not Crystal Reports - I had to use this in an old job and *hated* it!! Cheers

                        It definitely isn't definatley

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                        datacop
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                        I've used Active Reports from DataDynamics for years with GREAT success.. http://www.datadynamics.com Also of interest, Telerik has created a new reporting suite as well... Though it is still quite young and not as easy to work with as Active Reports IMHO.. http://www.telerik.com/products/reporting.aspx

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                        • M moon_stick

                          I've been tasked with researching some alternatives to SQL Server Reporting Services and was wondering what experiences and recommendations anyone out there has? I've also seen a couple of add-ons for reporting services, some of which look quite promising - has anyone got any experience of these? PS Ideally not Crystal Reports - I had to use this in an old job and *hated* it!! Cheers

                          It definitely isn't definatley

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                          Ray451ad
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                          Most reporting tools have similar functionality as far as report look and feel is concered. The big differences between the various tools are in who is authoring the reports and how they are hosted and managed. I don't think there is a reporting tool out there which is great for everything. Why are you looking for another tool? What kind of reports are you writing? (Enterprise, Embedded Application, etc.)

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                          • M moon_stick

                            I've been tasked with researching some alternatives to SQL Server Reporting Services and was wondering what experiences and recommendations anyone out there has? I've also seen a couple of add-ons for reporting services, some of which look quite promising - has anyone got any experience of these? PS Ideally not Crystal Reports - I had to use this in an old job and *hated* it!! Cheers

                            It definitely isn't definatley

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                            thrakazog
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                            I've built and rebuilt my companies reporting software a few times. The heart of it right now is based on the Siberix Report Writer[^]. This is the best report software I've come across. It will let you output directly to printers, PDF, and XPS. The source code license is pretty cheap too so you can hack away at it yourself if you feel ambitious. I've even received prompt responses from their tech support on the weekend. You use the API kinda like you would use GDI to draw on a bitmap. Minor drawback is that there is no user interface for report layout etc. I had to build my own. So that's my 2 cents. And no, I don't work for them.

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