Electricity price
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My electric power company RWE (in Germany) just anounced a new price. They want to have 0,21 Euro (0,27 US$) for the kilowatt hour. What do you have to pay in your country? Regards Sascha
Around $.10 per kwh (give or take a cent or two). I live in western PA. I've read warnings that when the statewide price controls are removed in a few years prices will jump 50%, but it's not clear in anything i read if that's 50% of the total price, or 50% of the generation price (roughly half the total, the remainder being distribution), or how much of the projected change was due to the spike in fuel costs (which've dropped) vs fixed costs (eg building/operating the plants which haven't).
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My electric power company RWE (in Germany) just anounced a new price. They want to have 0,21 Euro (0,27 US$) for the kilowatt hour. What do you have to pay in your country? Regards Sascha
Electric power costs vary widely. At home, 20 miles north of the office, I pay $.113/kWh. The City of Needles, CA, 3 miles south of the office charges about $.18/kWh. My company, an electric utiity, charges $.077/kWh. It's a complex industry, and tossing blame around, while fun, is rarely productive. Unless you're involved in the industry you really can't begin to imagine how complicated it is to optimize costs. :sigh: We charge the least among three states, owing to two factors. One, as a tribal company operating on a reservation, we are entitled to a reserved portion of the power generated by the dam that was built on tribal lands stolen by the US government. That is very low cost power - about $.04/kWh. Two, we have a small customer base in a small geographic area with a fairly predictable climate (always awful), which allows us to estimate reasonably well what our future demand will be. About 1/3 of our total requirement is filled by this cheap power. The rest must be purchased on the open market, and depending on current conditions, that cost can vary widely. We can contract for a long-term purchse at a decent price, but if we fall short on demand, we still have to pay for power not delivered. And if we underestimate the need we have to buy on the spot market at prices that can be as much as 30 times the "normal" cost. Cost of power is essentially a guessing game; any deviation between our guess and reality costs dearly. At this time we are losing money by the bucketfuls because we have several long term contracts that were based on growth projections that were made null and void by the recent market crash. We keep enough reserves to get us through until summer, when the air conditioners switch back on and the cash flow turns positive again, but we may need to actually raise rates if a normal economy does not surface by then. Crazy...
"A Journey of a Thousand Rest Stops Begins with a Single Movement"
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My electric power company RWE (in Germany) just anounced a new price. They want to have 0,21 Euro (0,27 US$) for the kilowatt hour. What do you have to pay in your country? Regards Sascha
Quebec: For the consumers under the Rate D plan, the first 30 kWh of everday will cost 5.4 cents per kW.h, and the rest of the daily balance will cost 7.33 cents per kW.h. This Rate D (residential) plan also includes a $12.36 monthly fixed charge (on average).
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My electric power company RWE (in Germany) just anounced a new price. They want to have 0,21 Euro (0,27 US$) for the kilowatt hour. What do you have to pay in your country? Regards Sascha
0,1911 € (germany, drewag)
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My electric power company RWE (in Germany) just anounced a new price. They want to have 0,21 Euro (0,27 US$) for the kilowatt hour. What do you have to pay in your country? Regards Sascha
I believe $0.12 US. Our bill is divided up in electricity cost + transmission cost + distribution cost + several others (taxes). I believe the actual power cost is around $.04.
John
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0,1911 € (germany, drewag)
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I believe $0.12 US. Our bill is divided up in electricity cost + transmission cost + distribution cost + several others (taxes). I believe the actual power cost is around $.04.
John
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Electric power costs vary widely. At home, 20 miles north of the office, I pay $.113/kWh. The City of Needles, CA, 3 miles south of the office charges about $.18/kWh. My company, an electric utiity, charges $.077/kWh. It's a complex industry, and tossing blame around, while fun, is rarely productive. Unless you're involved in the industry you really can't begin to imagine how complicated it is to optimize costs. :sigh: We charge the least among three states, owing to two factors. One, as a tribal company operating on a reservation, we are entitled to a reserved portion of the power generated by the dam that was built on tribal lands stolen by the US government. That is very low cost power - about $.04/kWh. Two, we have a small customer base in a small geographic area with a fairly predictable climate (always awful), which allows us to estimate reasonably well what our future demand will be. About 1/3 of our total requirement is filled by this cheap power. The rest must be purchased on the open market, and depending on current conditions, that cost can vary widely. We can contract for a long-term purchse at a decent price, but if we fall short on demand, we still have to pay for power not delivered. And if we underestimate the need we have to buy on the spot market at prices that can be as much as 30 times the "normal" cost. Cost of power is essentially a guessing game; any deviation between our guess and reality costs dearly. At this time we are losing money by the bucketfuls because we have several long term contracts that were based on growth projections that were made null and void by the recent market crash. We keep enough reserves to get us through until summer, when the air conditioners switch back on and the cash flow turns positive again, but we may need to actually raise rates if a normal economy does not surface by then. Crazy...
"A Journey of a Thousand Rest Stops Begins with a Single Movement"
>> tossing blame around, while fun, is rarely productive That is why i try to get get an overview. The problem in germany is that the market is divided under 4 or 5 companys. They own the plants and the net. No chance to get into the market for a foreign company to make it a little cheaper (i wouldn't complain abaut $.113/kWh). Thanks.
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Really depends on where you live. The 3 years I spent living in upstate NY (Massena NY[^]) because the town was part of an old deal way back when the Eisenhower Locks[^] were built, the town got power REAL cheap. While I was there we got power at around $.03 per kw\hr. It was crazy cheap.
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>> tossing blame around, while fun, is rarely productive That is why i try to get get an overview. The problem in germany is that the market is divided under 4 or 5 companys. They own the plants and the net. No chance to get into the market for a foreign company to make it a little cheaper (i wouldn't complain abaut $.113/kWh). Thanks.
If I recall correctly Germany has a program that requires the utilities to pay a premium rate to "green energy" producers. That is allowing non-competitive solar power, etc to be developed at the expense of higher rates to users. I will withold comment on the stupidity of governments forcing non-competitive technology onto the public. Remember the US mandated programing language Ada?
