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    Andy_L_J
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    I have had to lay off five blokes in the last two weeks. Four more to get the bullet before the end of the week. :sigh: I am already drained. Roll on the holidays,...if only for my short-term sanity. :(

    I don't speak Idiot - please talk slowly and clearly

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      I have had to lay off five blokes in the last two weeks. Four more to get the bullet before the end of the week. :sigh: I am already drained. Roll on the holidays,...if only for my short-term sanity. :(

      I don't speak Idiot - please talk slowly and clearly

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      Could be worse... you could be next...

      -------------------------------------------------------- Knowledge is knowing that the tomato is a fruit. Wisdom is not putting it in fruit salad!!

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        I have had to lay off five blokes in the last two weeks. Four more to get the bullet before the end of the week. :sigh: I am already drained. Roll on the holidays,...if only for my short-term sanity. :(

        I don't speak Idiot - please talk slowly and clearly

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        Christian Graus
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        That really blows, for you as well as them. 9 sacked out of how many ?

        Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista.

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          Could be worse... you could be next...

          -------------------------------------------------------- Knowledge is knowing that the tomato is a fruit. Wisdom is not putting it in fruit salad!!

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          Andy_L_J
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          _Damian S_ wrote:

          you could be next...

          Made my skin crawl. :sigh:

          I don't speak Idiot - please talk slowly and clearly

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            That really blows, for you as well as them. 9 sacked out of how many ?

            Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista.

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            Four from a team of twelve (skilled labourers -- min 12 months training) The next four are from the production teams (1 from each). There are a total of 60 guys there, but I hear rumours that there will be some not required to return after the break. The company has about 140 permanent employees around the country, and twenty to thirty casuals. We are fast running out of casuals. While no-one is indispensible, I feel relatively secure after 13 years at the same place. I can do almost any job in the organisation. Last on, first off and all that. (By the way, we have a large core of very experienced people in our primary field who have been with the company for many years (+30 with more than ten years here, and 9 with more than twenty). The current situation is not ideal, but while we are saving costs in some, areas we are spending major dollars in order to take swift advantage when conditions change.

            I don't speak Idiot - please talk slowly and clearly

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              I have had to lay off five blokes in the last two weeks. Four more to get the bullet before the end of the week. :sigh: I am already drained. Roll on the holidays,...if only for my short-term sanity. :(

              I don't speak Idiot - please talk slowly and clearly

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              Dalek Dave
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              I have had to lay off two site managers, a site foreman and a Quantity Surveyor. Overheads according to my MD. Yesterday and today we are drafting plans to buy £28 Million pouunds worth of Land! Where's the sense? If we buy the land we will need site managers. Madness!

              ------------------------------------ Always acknowledge a fault. This will throw those in authority off their guard and give you an opportunity to commit more. Mark Twain

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                Four from a team of twelve (skilled labourers -- min 12 months training) The next four are from the production teams (1 from each). There are a total of 60 guys there, but I hear rumours that there will be some not required to return after the break. The company has about 140 permanent employees around the country, and twenty to thirty casuals. We are fast running out of casuals. While no-one is indispensible, I feel relatively secure after 13 years at the same place. I can do almost any job in the organisation. Last on, first off and all that. (By the way, we have a large core of very experienced people in our primary field who have been with the company for many years (+30 with more than ten years here, and 9 with more than twenty). The current situation is not ideal, but while we are saving costs in some, areas we are spending major dollars in order to take swift advantage when conditions change.

                I don't speak Idiot - please talk slowly and clearly

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                There there. Cheer up. At least you know you aren't a heartless person and that you actually care. Not like the many companies that just let people go without even a blink. Without any compensation even. I have read in the papers on my side that a bank here let a bunch of their people go by calling them into the head office early in the morning and told to leave their door passes with HR on the spot and to not come back to work the next day then told to clear their desk within the next 10 minutes. Hope you did good by the guys you are laying off. Maybe help them look for a job opening somewhere with a business contact (if any opening exists in this economic climate... *sigh*). Treat them to a good dinner? It's not easy to be jobless at this time. We feel for you to have to do it to them, and all of us hope these tiems will end soon. Cheer up..

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                  There there. Cheer up. At least you know you aren't a heartless person and that you actually care. Not like the many companies that just let people go without even a blink. Without any compensation even. I have read in the papers on my side that a bank here let a bunch of their people go by calling them into the head office early in the morning and told to leave their door passes with HR on the spot and to not come back to work the next day then told to clear their desk within the next 10 minutes. Hope you did good by the guys you are laying off. Maybe help them look for a job opening somewhere with a business contact (if any opening exists in this economic climate... *sigh*). Treat them to a good dinner? It's not easy to be jobless at this time. We feel for you to have to do it to them, and all of us hope these tiems will end soon. Cheer up..

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                  Andy_L_J
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                  I give a good reference when due but we are a pretty closed industry and there is only so much work to go around. Our biggest competitor has laid off 100 staff already. I get over this stuff pretty quick and have a thick skin, but you're right, I do care about my guys and actually know what it feels like to be on the end of retrenchments so there's my empathy. Who knows, in six months I may be re-hiring them, and their mates...I ceratinly hope so.

                  I don't speak Idiot - please talk slowly and clearly

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                    I have had to lay off two site managers, a site foreman and a Quantity Surveyor. Overheads according to my MD. Yesterday and today we are drafting plans to buy £28 Million pouunds worth of Land! Where's the sense? If we buy the land we will need site managers. Madness!

                    ------------------------------------ Always acknowledge a fault. This will throw those in authority off their guard and give you an opportunity to commit more. Mark Twain

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                    Dalek Dave wrote:

                    Overheads according to my MD

                    This is the crux of the situation (building industries anyway). There is no cash flow, everyone is paying as late as they can because the banks are reluctant to extend tradional overdrafts etc... Cutting out wages is an easy way to bring in quick cash flow. (However, when you need +AUD500K per week just for raw material costs, I cant see saving 10K in wages as making a significant dent somehow.)

                    I don't speak Idiot - please talk slowly and clearly

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                    • A Andy_L_J

                      I have had to lay off five blokes in the last two weeks. Four more to get the bullet before the end of the week. :sigh: I am already drained. Roll on the holidays,...if only for my short-term sanity. :(

                      I don't speak Idiot - please talk slowly and clearly

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                      That sucks. I hope it's your own company because often the person made to do all the nasty lay offs is the last person in the chain laid off.


                      "It's so simple to be wise. Just think of something stupid to say and then don't say it." -Sam Levenson

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