Obama = Hitler
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Josh Gray wrote:
Yeah, somehow Im still not convinced he's correct, the Penthouse reference really did add a level of credibility though
You shouldn't need to be told the detailed specifics, its something you have to research and understand yourself. Probably way out of your league. Probably too lazy to look it up. :|
CaptainSeeSarp wrote:
You shouldn't need to be told the detailed specifics, its something you have to research and understand yourself. Probably way out of your league. Probably too lazy to look it up. :|
Fair enough, how were you introduced to this topic? It's not something you've spoken of before
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Christian Graus wrote:
WEll, that worked out well then....
Yeah, somehow Im still not convinced he's correct, the Penthouse reference really did add a level of credibility though
Funny, it left me feeling that Penthouse will obviously publish anything.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista.
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So, you know a secret, and you're keeping it to yourself, apart from a broad overview ? It's not REALLY that you can't repeat what the Klan master said in a way that makes sense to people in the outside world ? Give me a break.
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Christian Graus wrote:
So, you know a secret, and you're keeping it to yourself, apart from a broad overview ? It's not REALLY that you can't repeat what the Klan master said in a way that makes sense to people in the outside world ? Give me a break.
Your tactics are really disappointing coming from a supposed computer programmer. You should be able to see the bigger picture and how it works. Looks like Christian Graus is offended because he can't handle the truth.
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CaptainSeeSarp wrote:
You shouldn't need to be told the detailed specifics, its something you have to research and understand yourself. Probably way out of your league. Probably too lazy to look it up. :|
Fair enough, how were you introduced to this topic? It's not something you've spoken of before
Josh Gray wrote:
Fair enough, how were you introduced to this topic? It's not something you've spoken of before
After all the news about the economy I looked up the federal reserve and did a lot of research about how it worked.
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Funny, it left me feeling that Penthouse will obviously publish anything.
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Christian Graus wrote:
Funny, it left me feeling that Penthouse will obviously publish anything.
Why is it that any web site related to conspiracy theories has such bad layout and graphics?
It's like the mark of authenticity. They are too busy pursuing truth to waste time on things like aesthetics.
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Christian Graus wrote:
So, you know a secret, and you're keeping it to yourself, apart from a broad overview ? It's not REALLY that you can't repeat what the Klan master said in a way that makes sense to people in the outside world ? Give me a break.
Your tactics are really disappointing coming from a supposed computer programmer. You should be able to see the bigger picture and how it works. Looks like Christian Graus is offended because he can't handle the truth.
CaptainSeeSarp wrote:
You should be able to see the bigger picture and how it works.
As I have tried to explain to you, I do know what the bigger picture is, and I know how conspiracy theories fit into that. I know this, not because I program computers, or am successful, but because I am old enough to have experienced them first hand and seen from experience that conspiracy theorists jump from one conspiracy to the next, not even pausing as each prediction fails to come true.
CaptainSeeSarp wrote:
Looks like Christian Graus is offended because he can't handle the truth.
No, I'm amused by your inability to discuss this truth, or to address any of the points I have raised. And, I work from home. I'm sufficiently bored to play this game for as long as you're willing to keep plugging away. But, I've given up on you saying anything rational, or defending your viewpoint at all. You found all this out by 'looking into it'. Does this mean you stumbled across some right wing nutter websites and decided they must be true ? I assume so. What test do you use to work out which of the things you read is true and which is BS ?
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CaptainSeeSarp wrote:
You should be able to see the bigger picture and how it works.
As I have tried to explain to you, I do know what the bigger picture is, and I know how conspiracy theories fit into that. I know this, not because I program computers, or am successful, but because I am old enough to have experienced them first hand and seen from experience that conspiracy theorists jump from one conspiracy to the next, not even pausing as each prediction fails to come true.
CaptainSeeSarp wrote:
Looks like Christian Graus is offended because he can't handle the truth.
No, I'm amused by your inability to discuss this truth, or to address any of the points I have raised. And, I work from home. I'm sufficiently bored to play this game for as long as you're willing to keep plugging away. But, I've given up on you saying anything rational, or defending your viewpoint at all. You found all this out by 'looking into it'. Does this mean you stumbled across some right wing nutter websites and decided they must be true ? I assume so. What test do you use to work out which of the things you read is true and which is BS ?
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista.
I have explained everything perfectly clear and provided well documented facts about it all. You found it so offensive because you know its true, but you don't want to become anything more than a shovel.
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You think you are superior, you are scum. Remember when you were back in Vietnam? :~ You are a lost soul trying to fill his void with green paper, selling his soul to dealers.
CaptainSeeSarp wrote:
You think you are superior
Not at all. I know I am superior. So much so that you, with your pathetic education and second-rate, drug-addled, brain cannot even conceive how superior to you, I am. Think of an ant looking at an elephant. . .Now imagine the elephant, stepping on the ant. :laugh:
CaptainSeeSarp wrote:
Remember when you were back in Vietnam
Very well. I keep wondering if you have the stones to join up and act like a man. The army would be the perfect career for you - unless, of course, you are the sniveling little coward I think you are.
CaptainSeeSarp wrote:
You are a lost soul trying to fill his void with green paper, selling his soul to dealers.
Dropping out of highschool means your pathetic knowledge of what went down in VN is all fucked up, dimmie. When I was there in 65-66, there was no big drug problem. That happened (except for the bullshit part that existed only in the press) in 67+ when they started sending lots of draftees over. Instead of selling our souls to anybody for anything, we drank beer, got laid, and shot Mr. Charlie's ass off while he tried to do the same to us.
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface
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I have explained everything perfectly clear and provided well documented facts about it all. You found it so offensive because you know its true, but you don't want to become anything more than a shovel.
You've provided one link to a Penthouse article. Where did you provide anything else ? I'm not offended, I am amused. I am also waiting for your explanation to whom it is I am a slave, or in what way I am a 'shovel' ( not even sure this makes sense ). So long as I can own the things I own, keep my job, and keep my money, why would I care what the Illuminati do, assuming they even exist ?
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Craig S. Karpel wrote in a November 1977 Penthouse magazine article "Cartergate: The Death of Democracy": "The presidency of the United States and the key cabinet departments of the federal government have been taken over by a private organization dedicated to the subordination of the domestic interests of the United States to the international interests of the multi-national banks and corporations. It would be unfair to say that the Trilateral Commission dominates the Carter Administration; the Trilateral Commission is the Carter Administration."
CaptainSeeSarp wrote:
Craig S. Karpel wrote in a November 1977 Penthouse magazine article "Cartergate: The Death of Democracy": "The presidency of the United States and the key cabinet departments of the federal government have been taken over by a private organization dedicated to the subordination of the domestic interests of the United States to the international interests of the multi-national banks and corporations. It would be unfair to say that the Trilateral Commission dominates the Carter Administration; the Trilateral Commission is the Carter Administration."
Y'know, if you're going to plagiarize wholesale from Wikipedia[^], some one's going to figure it out. Just the fact that you spelled all those polysyllabic words correctly was a clue.
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface
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CaptainSeeSarp wrote:
You think you are superior
Not at all. I know I am superior. So much so that you, with your pathetic education and second-rate, drug-addled, brain cannot even conceive how superior to you, I am. Think of an ant looking at an elephant. . .Now imagine the elephant, stepping on the ant. :laugh:
CaptainSeeSarp wrote:
Remember when you were back in Vietnam
Very well. I keep wondering if you have the stones to join up and act like a man. The army would be the perfect career for you - unless, of course, you are the sniveling little coward I think you are.
CaptainSeeSarp wrote:
You are a lost soul trying to fill his void with green paper, selling his soul to dealers.
Dropping out of highschool means your pathetic knowledge of what went down in VN is all fucked up, dimmie. When I was there in 65-66, there was no big drug problem. That happened (except for the bullshit part that existed only in the press) in 67+ when they started sending lots of draftees over. Instead of selling our souls to anybody for anything, we drank beer, got laid, and shot Mr. Charlie's ass off while he tried to do the same to us.
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface
Oakman wrote:
Instead of selling our souls to anybody for anything, we drank beer, got laid, and shot Mr. Charlie's ass off while he tried to do the same to us.
What a nice way to put it. It sounds to me that you pillaged and raped the locals while shooting at their government. Your service to this country is a disgrace. How dare you call yourself superior to me! You have no idea how superior I am to you. Get it through your head...YOU ARE SCUM! Now get out of my way and stay out of my way.
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Obama isn't Hitler. But the social excitement surrounding him is in fact an example of precisely the same kind of social phenomenon. It is the closest thing we have ever seen to it in the US.
Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.
Stan Shannon wrote:
But the social excitement surrounding him is in fact an example of precisely the same kind of social phenomenon
Also surrounding Bobby Kennedy, George Washington, and Sarah Palin.
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface
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You've provided one link to a Penthouse article. Where did you provide anything else ? I'm not offended, I am amused. I am also waiting for your explanation to whom it is I am a slave, or in what way I am a 'shovel' ( not even sure this makes sense ). So long as I can own the things I own, keep my job, and keep my money, why would I care what the Illuminati do, assuming they even exist ?
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Christian Graus wrote:
why would I care what the Illuminati do, assuming they even exist ?
They have absolute power over the economy, and that is the ONLY thing that really matters to you. Like an addiction to a drug, all you want is your green fix.
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CaptainSeeSarp wrote:
Craig S. Karpel wrote in a November 1977 Penthouse magazine article "Cartergate: The Death of Democracy": "The presidency of the United States and the key cabinet departments of the federal government have been taken over by a private organization dedicated to the subordination of the domestic interests of the United States to the international interests of the multi-national banks and corporations. It would be unfair to say that the Trilateral Commission dominates the Carter Administration; the Trilateral Commission is the Carter Administration."
Y'know, if you're going to plagiarize wholesale from Wikipedia[^], some one's going to figure it out. Just the fact that you spelled all those polysyllabic words correctly was a clue.
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface
ROTFL - now THAT is funny.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista.
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Josh Gray wrote:
Yeah, somehow Im still not convinced he's correct, the Penthouse reference really did add a level of credibility though
You shouldn't need to be told the detailed specifics, its something you have to research and understand yourself. Probably way out of your league. Probably too lazy to look it up. :|
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Christian Graus wrote:
why would I care what the Illuminati do, assuming they even exist ?
They have absolute power over the economy, and that is the ONLY thing that really matters to you. Like an addiction to a drug, all you want is your green fix.
CaptainSeeSarp wrote:
They have absolute power over the economy
Prove it. Start backing up your claims. Notice how you said you had provided proof, I asked you what proof and you ignored me ? That's why you're not credible.
CaptainSeeSarp wrote:
Like an addiction to a drug, all you want is your green fix.
No, not at all. I've spoken about money, because I believe that my financial standing gives me a freedom that belies your claims that I am some sort of slave to a conspiracy. I don't see how that's possible, when I live life entirely on my terms and am financially independent. However, what matters to me most is not my money, but the freedom that I have, because of my hard work and success, to spend time with my family and to nurture my kids to have good values so they grow up to be useful members of society. Notice I managed to say that without having a dig at you. It was hard, but I am actually trying to discuss this with you, to make you realise that what you're buying into is ignorant crap, which mostly exists for the benefit of people who, having no hope, seek someone to blame. You've done nothing to indicate that you've done any meaningful research, used any intelligent method to examine these claims before accepting them, or even have any real references to the stuff you're talking to, beyond knowing how to copy and paste Wikipedia. This whole thread has not gained a shred of credibility on your part since your pathetic link to a moronic video.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista.
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Obama isn't Hitler. But the social excitement surrounding him is in fact an example of precisely the same kind of social phenomenon. It is the closest thing we have ever seen to it in the US.
Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.
The social environment is the same, too - economic upheaval, fear of the future, distrust of the status quo... People need a hero, and a sense of change in the offing, and Obama offers them that, coupled with a charisma similar to that of JFK. It's going to be an interesting 4 years, to say the least. The man has been handed an opportunity that comes once in a generation and, having cast my vote and lost, I'm willing to give him a chance and see what he makes of it. A Hitler he isn't, but he has the chance to become one, if that's the way he's inclined. My sense, though, is that whether I agree with his policies or not (and I mostly don't), he is not bent on evil, but genuinely intent on doing what he considers good. I just don't agree that what he considers good is the best course for a free people to follow. I could be wrong... We'll know soon enough.:suss:
"A Journey of a Thousand Rest Stops Begins with a Single Movement"
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Josh Gray wrote:
Fair enough, how were you introduced to this topic? It's not something you've spoken of before
After all the news about the economy I looked up the federal reserve and did a lot of research about how it worked.
CaptainSeeSarp wrote:
After all the news about the economy I looked up the federal reserve and did a lot of research about how it worked.
Have you done any research into fluoride? I *know* a lot of the groups you mentioned above have been accused of using it to dumb down and confuse the masses. I hope you have a good water filter.
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Christian Graus wrote:
why would I care what the Illuminati do, assuming they even exist ?
They have absolute power over the economy, and that is the ONLY thing that really matters to you. Like an addiction to a drug, all you want is your green fix.
No, I didn't think so. You have nothing. Just because it sounds convincing when you watch the youtube video, doesn't meant it's convincing when you repeat it to rational people. If you have proof, post it. If you don't, then consider what that means for you. either way, look back at this thread and look at all the times you were asked to back your claims, or people tried to discuss why your claims are unlikely, and how you NEVER responded in a meaningful way.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista.