Software Developer Nature... Positive or Negative
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Edgar Prieto wrote:
about people coming back early from holiday vacations
You actually got leave??? I didn't... I always expect the worst. The funny thing is my manager probably thinks Im the most optimistic person here. He will ask me about a deadline or if Im capable of a task and I will always be like "Sure! Its fine! Everything is fine! Im fine! Are you fine?" This is of course while Im thinking. Its not gonna make deadline. Never does never will. And there is no such thing as negativity, I like to think of it more as being realistic. I always expect the worst and never get dissapointed as a result :) And when things go really well its a bonus! :-D
pietpap wrote:
You actually got leave??? I didn't...
Yup .. 2 weeks of gloriuos vacations (or permit without a salary in case you dont have enough available vacation days left) Its a local (country) policy to do not have any holiday during the year and put them all together in a year end vacation. :)
Edgar Prieto Software Engineer
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pietpap wrote:
You actually got leave??? I didn't...
Yup .. 2 weeks of gloriuos vacations (or permit without a salary in case you dont have enough available vacation days left) Its a local (country) policy to do not have any holiday during the year and put them all together in a year end vacation. :)
Edgar Prieto Software Engineer
I'm voluntarily taking 7 days of leave in addition to the 3 paid holidays to have two full weeks off over the holidays, but wouldn't want to be anywhere that doing so was mandatory.
Today's lesson is brought to you by the word "niggardly". Remember kids, don't attribute to racism what can be explained by Scandinavian language roots. -- Robert Royall
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I'm voluntarily taking 7 days of leave in addition to the 3 paid holidays to have two full weeks off over the holidays, but wouldn't want to be anywhere that doing so was mandatory.
Today's lesson is brought to you by the word "niggardly". Remember kids, don't attribute to racism what can be explained by Scandinavian language roots. -- Robert Royall
dan neely wrote:
but wouldn't want to be anywhere that doing so was mandatory.
that said I assume you never worked in Mexico before :laugh:
Edgar Prieto Software Engineer
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Edgar Prieto wrote:
...should have a positive or negative state of mind
Neither - it's up to your boss to make sure your team has both positively- and negatively-minded people. I remember reading (long time ago) a research by some psychologists; they were considering scientific reasearch teams, but I guess it should be applicable to IT Their results were that a productive team should include three types of people: - work horses - idea generators, and - critics A dis-balance (that is, lack of any of the above) makes the team a failure. And it does not matter, in which group you belong :)
Now that is very interesting. I'd love to read that. Maybe I'll get lucky googling and find it. To answer the original question, I'm an optimist and I think that most people who stick with software engineering are. Because with all the things we've seen go wrong in all the varied ways, we'd never even embark on a new project if we didn't think that this time it will be better. Hmm, I think I just described myself as an idiot :)
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dan neely wrote:
but wouldn't want to be anywhere that doing so was mandatory.
that said I assume you never worked in Mexico before :laugh:
Edgar Prieto Software Engineer
nope, the closest I got was an hour or so in the tourist fleecing zone of Tijuana.
Today's lesson is brought to you by the word "niggardly". Remember kids, don't attribute to racism what can be explained by Scandinavian language roots. -- Robert Royall
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Today in one of the last production meetings in the company I work for someone raised the question about people coming back early from holiday vacations It was requested to the employees to comeback 2 days earlier because of some special needs. Everybody had their opinion, but I choose to be pessimistic about the early return. As everybody left the room I make a deep though about it , and wonder if a SW Developer (or programer or whatever you call what you do , thats more ego based ) should have a positive or negative state of mind. to me a positive mind is the one that thinks that everything can be done and the negative mind is the one that always expects the worst case (especially when users /people are involved ) What is your opinion? :confused:
Edgar Prieto Software Engineer
1. Everything can be done... 2. ...if the people involved can make themselves do the necessary things. Now I'll go read what everyone else wrote :laugh:
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dan neely wrote:
but wouldn't want to be anywhere that doing so was mandatory.
that said I assume you never worked in Mexico before :laugh:
Edgar Prieto Software Engineer
In the US, financial services firms often forbid their employees to take any vacation at the end of the year without special approval from management well in advance. You never know who you might need to talk to when year-end processes turn into chaotic messes.
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Edgar Prieto wrote:
to me a positive mind is the one that thinks that everything can be done
to me a positive mind means that when something cannot be done as expected, you have a good attitude about it and it does not cause negative actions.
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I think of it as the "Optimistic Pessimist": Half of the glasses are full.
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Today in one of the last production meetings in the company I work for someone raised the question about people coming back early from holiday vacations It was requested to the employees to comeback 2 days earlier because of some special needs. Everybody had their opinion, but I choose to be pessimistic about the early return. As everybody left the room I make a deep though about it , and wonder if a SW Developer (or programer or whatever you call what you do , thats more ego based ) should have a positive or negative state of mind. to me a positive mind is the one that thinks that everything can be done and the negative mind is the one that always expects the worst case (especially when users /people are involved ) What is your opinion? :confused:
Edgar Prieto Software Engineer
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Now that is very interesting. I'd love to read that. Maybe I'll get lucky googling and find it. To answer the original question, I'm an optimist and I think that most people who stick with software engineering are. Because with all the things we've seen go wrong in all the varied ways, we'd never even embark on a new project if we didn't think that this time it will be better. Hmm, I think I just described myself as an idiot :)
Carlosian wrote:
Maybe I'll get lucky googling
Not so sure - I was reading about that research in Russian (though the research itself was conducted in USA, I think) in about 1988, so I'm not sure :sigh: about exact English terms used there, and things were not reported on Internet in those days...