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    CaptainSeeSarp
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaAxmrAzeNI[^] Now that is obvious proof right there. There is your evidence you need Christan Grass. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cv1EKBsPedo&feature=related[^]

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      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaAxmrAzeNI[^] Now that is obvious proof right there. There is your evidence you need Christan Grass. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cv1EKBsPedo&feature=related[^]

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      Christian Graus
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      I've seen it. And yes, it's a bit sad. Some points that seem lost on you 1 - do you know for sure that this was filmed by people who were serious ? 2 - do you have any evidence that obama created/encouraged this to happen ? 3 - what the hell does this prove ? It proves that some adults were motivated to make their kids do this, it doesn't even prove why they were doing it.

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        I've seen it. And yes, it's a bit sad. Some points that seem lost on you 1 - do you know for sure that this was filmed by people who were serious ? 2 - do you have any evidence that obama created/encouraged this to happen ? 3 - what the hell does this prove ? It proves that some adults were motivated to make their kids do this, it doesn't even prove why they were doing it.

        Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista.

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        CaptainSeeSarp
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        Can you not think for yourself? I have giving you a ton of evidence and you just won't think. You can't draw your own conclusions, they are predefined.

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          Can you not think for yourself? I have giving you a ton of evidence and you just won't think. You can't draw your own conclusions, they are predefined.

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          Christian Graus
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          CaptainSeeSarp wrote:

          Can you not think for yourself

          Every time you post something, I think about it, and respond. You can never answer me. Instead, you tell me I 'won't think', when what you mean is that I won't take stuff that proves nothing and jam it into the agenda you've decided to believe. As far as I can see, you still have no proof, nothing to defend your view, except jealousy.

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            CaptainSeeSarp wrote:

            Can you not think for yourself

            Every time you post something, I think about it, and respond. You can never answer me. Instead, you tell me I 'won't think', when what you mean is that I won't take stuff that proves nothing and jam it into the agenda you've decided to believe. As far as I can see, you still have no proof, nothing to defend your view, except jealousy.

            Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista.

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            CaptainSeeSarp
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            Christian Graus wrote:

            As far as I can see, you still have no proof, nothing to defend your view

            You wont even look at the proof. You can't see the big picture, its just too complex for your pathetic little mind.

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              CaptainSeeSarp wrote:

              Can you not think for yourself

              Every time you post something, I think about it, and respond. You can never answer me. Instead, you tell me I 'won't think', when what you mean is that I won't take stuff that proves nothing and jam it into the agenda you've decided to believe. As far as I can see, you still have no proof, nothing to defend your view, except jealousy.

              Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista.

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              CaptainSeeSarp
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              Maybe you can see the serious potential of Obama the Great with this one.[^]

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                Christian Graus wrote:

                As far as I can see, you still have no proof, nothing to defend your view

                You wont even look at the proof. You can't see the big picture, its just too complex for your pathetic little mind.

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                Christian Graus
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                See, saying that about people outside when you're giving a pep talk at the Klan meeting, works, because everyone there agrees with you, and won't pick holes in your logic. However, the fact is, I have examined every opinion piece you've paraded as proof, responded, and you can never answer. Which means that all you know for sure is that the Grand Wizard told you this and you believe him. That doesn't cut it in the real world.

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                  See, saying that about people outside when you're giving a pep talk at the Klan meeting, works, because everyone there agrees with you, and won't pick holes in your logic. However, the fact is, I have examined every opinion piece you've paraded as proof, responded, and you can never answer. Which means that all you know for sure is that the Grand Wizard told you this and you believe him. That doesn't cut it in the real world.

                  Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista.

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                  CaptainSeeSarp
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                  Christian Graus wrote:

                  Which means that all you know for sure is that the Grand Wizard told you this and you believe him.

                  That is an example of another thing that is crazy about this. Anyone who speaks out against obama is automatically a racist.

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                    Maybe you can see the serious potential of Obama the Great with this one.[^]

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                    Christian Graus
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                    SAme points as last time. Did Obama encourage this womans delusion ? How do you claim he benefits from it ? Do you claim that no Republican supporter is delusional ? However, you have to remember that your Klan buddies of yesteryear dragged people of colour forcibly to your country to do their hard labour and be their sex slaves. So, is it any wonder that such people are excited to see one of their number rising to the highest job in the country and hoping that this could signal the end of the prejudice and unfair treatment they have endured for generations ?

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                      Christian Graus wrote:

                      Which means that all you know for sure is that the Grand Wizard told you this and you believe him.

                      That is an example of another thing that is crazy about this. Anyone who speaks out against obama is automatically a racist.

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                      Christian Graus
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                      Well, to be honest, if you were willing to discuss your point of view, I'd be happy to discuss it with you. So long as you appear to be blinded by irrational beliefs with no shred of evidence, then you insult me, I'll insult you, b/c that seems to be all you're willing to entertain. You have actually admitted to being racist in the past, but I do agree that it's wrong to use the race card to deflect criticism. Obama should be as open to public criticism as any elected official.

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                        Christian Graus wrote:

                        As far as I can see, you still have no proof, nothing to defend your view

                        You wont even look at the proof. You can't see the big picture, its just too complex for your pathetic little mind.

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                        CaptainSeeSarp wrote:

                        its just too complex for your pathetic little mind.

                        Christian is able to make a very good living working from home. You just got fired from your job as a short-order cook and have no prospects of getting another job. This state of affairs is because he has a pathetic little mind while you have such a great mind and such a magnificent understanding of the universe - which of course you came up with while watching burgers sizzling on the grill. Do you also believe the earth is flat?

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                          Christian Graus wrote:

                          Which means that all you know for sure is that the Grand Wizard told you this and you believe him.

                          That is an example of another thing that is crazy about this. Anyone who speaks out against obama is automatically a racist.

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                          Rob Graham
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                          Piglet, you were a racist long before Obama came around. He's just your latest obsession.

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                            Christian Graus wrote:

                            Which means that all you know for sure is that the Grand Wizard told you this and you believe him.

                            That is an example of another thing that is crazy about this. Anyone who speaks out against obama is automatically a racist.

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                            Oakman
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                            CaptainSeeSarp wrote:

                            Anyone who speaks out against obama is automatically a racist.

                            You made racist statements in here before you knew how to spell Obama.

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                              SAme points as last time. Did Obama encourage this womans delusion ? How do you claim he benefits from it ? Do you claim that no Republican supporter is delusional ? However, you have to remember that your Klan buddies of yesteryear dragged people of colour forcibly to your country to do their hard labour and be their sex slaves. So, is it any wonder that such people are excited to see one of their number rising to the highest job in the country and hoping that this could signal the end of the prejudice and unfair treatment they have endured for generations ?

                              Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista.

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                              Pierre Leclercq
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                              Christian Graus wrote:

                              hoping that this could signal the end of the prejudice and unfair treatment they have endured for generations ?

                              I think the US is a country where minorities are treated quite decently compared to other places. How about a bush man elected to the presidency in Australia? Does that sound likely? Also it is true things happened in the past that are not accepted anymore following our standards of ethics for today, but back in those times, slavery was not only the american people's business. People from other countries actually had built profitable businesses for transfering human resources from Africa to America. And most of all, African people themselves were part of the business!! They eagerly captured men and women from nearby villages and sold them to the slavers for a profit! To my knowledge, the US has quite a number of laws, regulations and principles which already are meant to protect minorities and preserve diversity. These things are already built into the system.

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                                SAme points as last time. Did Obama encourage this womans delusion ? How do you claim he benefits from it ? Do you claim that no Republican supporter is delusional ? However, you have to remember that your Klan buddies of yesteryear dragged people of colour forcibly to your country to do their hard labour and be their sex slaves. So, is it any wonder that such people are excited to see one of their number rising to the highest job in the country and hoping that this could signal the end of the prejudice and unfair treatment they have endured for generations ?

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                                Christian Graus wrote:

                                So, is it any wonder that such people are excited to see one of their number rising to the highest job in the country and hoping that this could signal the end of the prejudice and unfair treatment they have endured for generations ?

                                If that is true why has there been no support for any number of highly qualified, competent and far more accomplished conservative black politicians from the African American community?

                                Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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                                  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaAxmrAzeNI[^] Now that is obvious proof right there. There is your evidence you need Christan Grass. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cv1EKBsPedo&feature=related[^]

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                                  those are some interesting auto-urls tax mr azn Cv1ek (probably russian) BS Pedo (related) but I think you're on the wrong board, especially since no one here will give you the time of day when your source is an anonymous 1st hand account, not a peer-reviewed 2nd hand account or journalistic.

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                                    Christian Graus wrote:

                                    hoping that this could signal the end of the prejudice and unfair treatment they have endured for generations ?

                                    I think the US is a country where minorities are treated quite decently compared to other places. How about a bush man elected to the presidency in Australia? Does that sound likely? Also it is true things happened in the past that are not accepted anymore following our standards of ethics for today, but back in those times, slavery was not only the american people's business. People from other countries actually had built profitable businesses for transfering human resources from Africa to America. And most of all, African people themselves were part of the business!! They eagerly captured men and women from nearby villages and sold them to the slavers for a profit! To my knowledge, the US has quite a number of laws, regulations and principles which already are meant to protect minorities and preserve diversity. These things are already built into the system.

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                                    Christian Graus
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                                    Pierre Leclercq wrote:

                                    think the US is a country where minorities are treated quite decently compared to other places.

                                    I would hope so, too. But, still, for this to be visibly true in such a meaningful way, must surely mean a lot ?

                                    Pierre Leclercq wrote:

                                    How about a bush man elected to the presidency in Australia?

                                    A bush man ? We don't have a president, nor do we even get a say in who leads us, directly, which probably contributes to making the system more conservative.

                                    Pierre Leclercq wrote:

                                    People from other countries actually had built profitable businesses for transfering human resources from Africa to America. And most of all, African people themselves were part of the business!! They eagerly captured men and women from nearby villages and sold them to the slavers for a profit!

                                    I know all of this.

                                    Pierre Leclercq wrote:

                                    To my knowledge, the US has quite a number of laws, regulations and principles which already are meant to protect minorities and preserve diversity.

                                    Yeah, but, so what ? That doesn't change that the majority of people in prison, on death row, or generally in poverty, are black. Laws do not create fairness, they don't govern how people act day to day.

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                                      Christian Graus wrote:

                                      So, is it any wonder that such people are excited to see one of their number rising to the highest job in the country and hoping that this could signal the end of the prejudice and unfair treatment they have endured for generations ?

                                      If that is true why has there been no support for any number of highly qualified, competent and far more accomplished conservative black politicians from the African American community?

                                      Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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                                      Because he's going for the top job, and he had better marketing. I'm not saying it's justified, or that there's no level of manipulation here. I'm just saying, people being deluded does not prove a conspiracy, unless you prove he set out to delude people, and if you prove his goal in doing so, was more than just getting to be President.

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                                        Because he's going for the top job, and he had better marketing. I'm not saying it's justified, or that there's no level of manipulation here. I'm just saying, people being deluded does not prove a conspiracy, unless you prove he set out to delude people, and if you prove his goal in doing so, was more than just getting to be President.

                                        Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista.

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                                        CaptainSeeSarp
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                                        You wouldn't know proof if it hit you in the face like a ton of bricks.

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                                          You wouldn't know proof if it hit you in the face like a ton of bricks.

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                                          soap brain
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                                          Shut up, retard.

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