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C# rots your C++ brain part 2

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  • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

    class MyException : std::exception {
    ...
    }

    try {
    throw MyException();
    } catch(std::exception& ex) {
    }

    The exception is not going to be caught. Can you figure out why?

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    Nougat H
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    This works:

    class MyException : public std::exception {

    I had to write it down to see it. :D

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    • L Luc Pattyn

      Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote:

      throw MyException();

      does this compile at all? I would expect new in there. :)

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      Jim Crafton
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      sure. you can technically use either heap or stack based allocation, the difference being that the heap based approach requires you to clean up manually, and is a big potential for mem leaks. pretty much everyone uses the stack based approach.

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        sure. you can technically use either heap or stack based allocation, the difference being that the heap based approach requires you to clean up manually, and is a big potential for mem leaks. pretty much everyone uses the stack based approach.

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        Luc Pattyn
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        I see. C# would not allow that. :)

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        • N Nougat H

          This works:

          class MyException : public std::exception {

          I had to write it down to see it. :D

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          Jorgen Sigvardsson
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          That's the trick. In hindsight, the compiler is absolutely right. I would like C++ compiler writers to issue a warning whenever private inheritance is used and the class itself is used for exceptions.

          -- Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit

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          • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

            class MyException : std::exception {
            ...
            }

            try {
            throw MyException();
            } catch(std::exception& ex) {
            }

            The exception is not going to be caught. Can you figure out why?

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            James_Zhang
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            #8

            no idea. c# rotted my c++ brain too. not that i was really good at c++ though. i think that you can't do this in c++, but you can in c#?

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            • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

              class MyException : std::exception {
              ...
              }

              try {
              throw MyException();
              } catch(std::exception& ex) {
              }

              The exception is not going to be caught. Can you figure out why?

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              Chris Maunder
              wrote on last edited by
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              :sigh: I think I need to take 2 weeks off and go back to straight C++.

              cheers, Chris Maunder

              CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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                no idea. c# rotted my c++ brain too. not that i was really good at c++ though. i think that you can't do this in c++, but you can in c#?

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                Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                No, you can't make this mistake in C#, because you cannot specify whether the inheritance should be private or not. Inheritance is always public in C#.

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                • C Chris Maunder

                  :sigh: I think I need to take 2 weeks off and go back to straight C++.

                  cheers, Chris Maunder

                  CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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                  Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                  If parsing C++ wasn't so damn hard, I'd write a tool to find these things for me. During the build process at 2 am, the build server would send me an SMS for each find. Do you know if Lint can find these kinds of things? :~

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                  • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

                    If parsing C++ wasn't so damn hard, I'd write a tool to find these things for me. During the build process at 2 am, the build server would send me an SMS for each find. Do you know if Lint can find these kinds of things? :~

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                    led mike
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                    C# rots your C++ brain

                    C# rots your C++ brain

                    imagine what it does to non c++ brains (example: "The other day I saw the tooth fairy sodomizing easter bunny using a Dispose Pattern, SIDEWAYS!" :omg: ) ;)

                    led mike

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                    • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

                      class MyException : std::exception {
                      ...
                      }

                      try {
                      throw MyException();
                      } catch(std::exception& ex) {
                      }

                      The exception is not going to be caught. Can you figure out why?

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                      Anthony Mushrow
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                      #13

                      C# hasn't rotted my brain, I saw that straight away. Maybe it's just you. :confused:

                      My current favourite word is: Nipple!

                      -SK Genius

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                      • L led mike

                        C# rots your C++ brain

                        C# rots your C++ brain

                        imagine what it does to non c++ brains (example: "The other day I saw the tooth fairy sodomizing easter bunny using a Dispose Pattern, SIDEWAYS!" :omg: ) ;)

                        led mike

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                        Shog9 0
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                        Yes. You definitely need less C#. :)

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                        You're right. These facts that you've laid out totally contradict the wild ramblings that I pulled off the back of cornflakes packets.

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                          Yes. You definitely need less C#. :)

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                          You're right. These facts that you've laid out totally contradict the wild ramblings that I pulled off the back of cornflakes packets.

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                          led mike
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                          Shog9 wrote:

                          You definitely need less C#

                          I'm trying. I have started working with our C code base last year. It's a nightmare of course, unstructured, retarded spaghetti code. Unfortunately I still double duty in the wonderful new .NET world of our shop as well. I can't help but laughcry whenever I think about the dispose pattern. Here, we give you ( developers that can't deal with memory management "pointers" ) this magical world of garbage collection to eliminate the burden of understanding how computers work. This new magical world provides more native access than Java and so make sure to take a look at the, *gulp* simple eh yeah eh simple Dispose Pattern to ensure you are allocating and releasing native resources correctly. LMAO! Sure, they can't deal with pointers but they'll get this Dispose Pattern no problem! ROTF! :laugh::laugh::laugh:

                          led mike

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                          • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

                            That's the trick. In hindsight, the compiler is absolutely right. I would like C++ compiler writers to issue a warning whenever private inheritance is used and the class itself is used for exceptions.

                            -- Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit

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                            Le centriste
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                            Frankly, I don't see the point of private inheritance. I see it more like a <<uses>> than an <<is>>.

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                            • L Le centriste

                              Frankly, I don't see the point of private inheritance. I see it more like a <<uses>> than an <<is>>.

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                              Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                              That is exactly the purpose it is intended to serve. It's there to save some extra typing for programmers. Instead of aggregating another object as a member variable, it's merged together with the "this" object. I think the language should've required the use of a visibility modifier. That way it wouldn't have been such a potential source of errors.

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                                This works:

                                class MyException : public std::exception {

                                I had to write it down to see it. :D

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                                Kevin McFarlane
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                                Ah yes, I didn't spot that! It's the kind of nasty trick they would pull on you at interview. :) I haven't done any C++ for about 4 years now.

                                Kevin

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                                • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

                                  class MyException : std::exception {
                                  ...
                                  }

                                  try {
                                  throw MyException();
                                  } catch(std::exception& ex) {
                                  }

                                  The exception is not going to be caught. Can you figure out why?

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                                  edu net
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                                  it's not functionally useful to adorn c++ inheritance with the

                                  private

                                  modifier (or no modifier at all). just keep all inheritance

                                  public

                                  (and don't forget it). i couldn't spot the error as it would never have happened to me coz of the above rule.


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                                  • L Le centriste

                                    Frankly, I don't see the point of private inheritance. I see it more like a <<uses>> than an <<is>>.

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                                    Steve_
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                                    But if it <<is>> it can access protected members.

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                                    • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

                                      class MyException : std::exception {
                                      ...
                                      }

                                      try {
                                      throw MyException();
                                      } catch(std::exception& ex) {
                                      }

                                      The exception is not going to be caught. Can you figure out why?

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                                      Al Beback
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                                      I admit I didn't spot the missing public modifier, but I noticed something else that I wasn't sure of: throw MyException**()**; In C++, you don't use parenthesis when instanciating an object with the default constructor (ie, throw MyException;). I'm trying to remember if using parenthesis in this case would trigger an unintended call to the copy constructor. Do you know?

                                      ShamWow

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                                        I admit I didn't spot the missing public modifier, but I noticed something else that I wasn't sure of: throw MyException**()**; In C++, you don't use parenthesis when instanciating an object with the default constructor (ie, throw MyException;). I'm trying to remember if using parenthesis in this case would trigger an unintended call to the copy constructor. Do you know?

                                        ShamWow

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                                        Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                                        It does not matter if you use the parenthesis or not, the default constructor is called anyway. I tend to use parenthesis (how the hell do you pluralize that word? :)), because it makes the syntax more uniform. There are some odd scenarios though, where the parenthesis can fool the compiler into believing that you're declaring a function prototype. Can't remember exactly how to provoke it though...

                                        -- Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit

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