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  • L Lost User

    digital man wrote:

    There is no utopia. Whatever the people want they are overruled and cowed by, in the case of Gaza, Hamas. These were the same poeple that, when they took control, threw Fatah policemen off of roofs or executed anyone they didn't like and now rule with an iron fist. It's pretty hard to stand up to that in a climate of fear and is the same reason why the Iraqi people didn't stand up to Saddam Hussein and why the general populace in Zimababwe are powerless to overcome Mugabe.

    And why the French and British, and Americans revolted? It can be done. Not to do so is to suffer.

    Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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    R Giskard Reventlov
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    fat_boy wrote:

    And why the French and British, and Americans revolted?

    Different mind set, circumstances and context. Also, perhaps, the population under the control of Hamas is happy with Hamas and agrees with them therefore what is there to revolt about?

    fat_boy wrote:

    Not to do so is to suffer.

    Suffering is contextual.

    me, me, me

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      fat_boy wrote:

      And why the French and British, and Americans revolted?

      Different mind set, circumstances and context. Also, perhaps, the population under the control of Hamas is happy with Hamas and agrees with them therefore what is there to revolt about?

      fat_boy wrote:

      Not to do so is to suffer.

      Suffering is contextual.

      me, me, me

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      Lost User
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      digital man wrote:

      perhaps, the population under the control of Hamas is happy with Hamas and agrees with them therefore what is there to revolt about?

      Exactafuckingmundo. As are the Israeils happy with the doings of the IDF. So you have stalemenat and bloodshed. So stop complaining and accept that the world is full of assholes trying to kill other assholes for some ideology or land or whatever.

      Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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      • L Lost User

        digital man wrote:

        perhaps, the population under the control of Hamas is happy with Hamas and agrees with them therefore what is there to revolt about?

        Exactafuckingmundo. As are the Israeils happy with the doings of the IDF. So you have stalemenat and bloodshed. So stop complaining and accept that the world is full of assholes trying to kill other assholes for some ideology or land or whatever.

        Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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        R Giskard Reventlov
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        fat_boy wrote:

        As are the Israeils happy with the doings of the IDF.

        Again, you are not applying context.

        fat_boy wrote:

        So stop complaining and accept that the world is full of assholes trying to kill other assholes for some ideology or land or whatever

        I agree the world is full of arseholes but they don't all want to kill me and, if they do, then I believe I have the right to make sure they can't.

        me, me, me

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        • M Mustafa Ismail Mustafa

          Adnan Siddiqi wrote:

          don't use words unless you are not sure when then should be used.

          Oh, I know very well when they should be used.

          Adnan Siddiqi wrote:

          I didn;t know that condemning Israelis is considered Fitnah "IN" Islam.

          It is. Any spread of any rumor is fitnah. Islam never sanctioned any underhanded form of warfare. Look to the Prophet Mohammed's teachings and look to the Qur'an for proof and then come back and to talk to me like you know something.

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          Sig history "dad" Ishmail-Samuel Mustafa "There is no wealth like knowledge, no poverty like ignorance" Ali Ibn Abi Talib

          Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote: Keep it up. Fool.

          I now think of you as Mr. T! - Trollslayer

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          Adnan Siddiqi
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          where do you find RUMOR in it?

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          • M Mustafa Ismail Mustafa

            Adnan Siddiqi wrote:

            don't use words unless you are not sure when then should be used.

            Oh, I know very well when they should be used.

            Adnan Siddiqi wrote:

            I didn;t know that condemning Israelis is considered Fitnah "IN" Islam.

            It is. Any spread of any rumor is fitnah. Islam never sanctioned any underhanded form of warfare. Look to the Prophet Mohammed's teachings and look to the Qur'an for proof and then come back and to talk to me like you know something.

            Don't forget to vote if the response was helpful


            Sig history "dad" Ishmail-Samuel Mustafa "There is no wealth like knowledge, no poverty like ignorance" Ali Ibn Abi Talib

            Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote: Keep it up. Fool.

            I now think of you as Mr. T! - Trollslayer

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            Christian Graus
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            *cheers* about time for someone who knows the teachings of Islam to put this clown in his place.

            Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista.

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            • A Adnan Siddiqi

              where do you find RUMOR in it?

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              Sahir Shah
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              Adnan Siddiqi wrote:

              where do you find RUMOR in it?

              He is referring to your general attitude. Look up the meaning of Fitnah[^]. It means spreading hatred and division. That's what you do most of the time isn't it ? In view of your confirmation as a Fitnifier, I hereby bestow on you the highest civilian award in Pakistan Jahil-e-Fitnah.

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              • A Adnan Siddiqi

                where do you find RUMOR in it?

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                Sahir Shah
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                Since it's a weekend I am feeling particularly generous with titles, so, I bestow on you the second highest civilian award in Pakistan : Guzang-e-Latang

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                • C Christian Graus

                  *cheers* about time for someone who knows the teachings of Islam to put this clown in his place.

                  Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista.

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                  Oakman
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                  Christian Graus wrote:

                  *cheers* about time for someone who knows the teachings of Islam to put this clown in his place.

                  Ditto! It may even shut the kid up for a day.

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                  • M Mustafa Ismail Mustafa

                    Adnan Siddiqi wrote:

                    don't use words unless you are not sure when then should be used.

                    Oh, I know very well when they should be used.

                    Adnan Siddiqi wrote:

                    I didn;t know that condemning Israelis is considered Fitnah "IN" Islam.

                    It is. Any spread of any rumor is fitnah. Islam never sanctioned any underhanded form of warfare. Look to the Prophet Mohammed's teachings and look to the Qur'an for proof and then come back and to talk to me like you know something.

                    Don't forget to vote if the response was helpful


                    Sig history "dad" Ishmail-Samuel Mustafa "There is no wealth like knowledge, no poverty like ignorance" Ali Ibn Abi Talib

                    Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote: Keep it up. Fool.

                    I now think of you as Mr. T! - Trollslayer

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                    Mike Gaskey
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                    Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:

                    Don't forget to vote if the response was helpful

                    More than helpful. I just wanted to say that you are really having a positive effect on my opinion of Islam and Muslims in general. I've had an extraordinarily low opinion of both ever since 9-11, and you're changing that.

                    Mike - typical white guy. The USA does have universal healthcare, but you have to pay for it. D'oh. Thomas Mann - "Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil." The NYT - my leftist brochure. Calling an illegal alien an “undocumented immigrant” is like calling a drug dealer an “unlicensed pharmacist”. God doesn't believe in atheists, therefore they don't exist.

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                    • A Adnan Siddiqi

                      from Lebanon[^]

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                      KaRl
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                      I don't believe it. Hezbollah has no interest to do so, on the contrary. I would rather bet on people from the Hamas.

                      If you kill a whale, you get Greenpeace and Jacques Cousteau on your back, but wipe out sardines and you get a canning subsidy!

                      Fold with us! ¤ flickr

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                      • K KaRl

                        I don't believe it. Hezbollah has no interest to do so, on the contrary. I would rather bet on people from the Hamas.

                        If you kill a whale, you get Greenpeace and Jacques Cousteau on your back, but wipe out sardines and you get a canning subsidy!

                        Fold with us! ¤ flickr

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                        BoneSoft
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                        Ka?l wrote:

                        I don't believe it. Hezbollah has no interest to do so

                        Yeah, why would any non-Hamas Arab shoot stuff at Israel? They all love Israel, right? :rolleyes: I guess you'll REALLY be shocked with what Iran does when they get their nuclear program together.


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                        • C Christian Graus

                          *cheers* about time for someone who knows the teachings of Islam to put this clown in his place.

                          Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista.

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                          Adnan Siddiqi
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                          lol I am happy someone brought happiness in your lonely life. :-) p.s: offcourse you have no idea about Islam at all.

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                          • A Adnan Siddiqi

                            where do you find RUMOR in it?

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                            Mustafa Ismail Mustafa
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                            Your claims that Hizbullah has joined in when even they haven't even mentioned that they launched such an attack. Anything that is not truth and can spread between the people is certainly a rumor in my book and in any book. It gets compounded when the intent behind it is certainly not noble. Get your facts straight.

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                            Sig history "dad" Ishmail-Samuel Mustafa "There is no wealth like knowledge, no poverty like ignorance" Ali Ibn Abi Talib

                            Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote: Keep it up. Fool.

                            I now think of you as Mr. T! - Trollslayer

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                            • A Adnan Siddiqi

                              lol I am happy someone brought happiness in your lonely life. :-) p.s: offcourse you have no idea about Islam at all.

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                              Mustafa Ismail Mustafa
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                              From what I'm reading off of your posts, neither do you.

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                              Sig history "dad" Ishmail-Samuel Mustafa "There is no wealth like knowledge, no poverty like ignorance" Ali Ibn Abi Talib

                              Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote: Keep it up. Fool.

                              I now think of you as Mr. T! - Trollslayer

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                              • M Mike Gaskey

                                Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:

                                Don't forget to vote if the response was helpful

                                More than helpful. I just wanted to say that you are really having a positive effect on my opinion of Islam and Muslims in general. I've had an extraordinarily low opinion of both ever since 9-11, and you're changing that.

                                Mike - typical white guy. The USA does have universal healthcare, but you have to pay for it. D'oh. Thomas Mann - "Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil." The NYT - my leftist brochure. Calling an illegal alien an “undocumented immigrant” is like calling a drug dealer an “unlicensed pharmacist”. God doesn't believe in atheists, therefore they don't exist.

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                                Mustafa Ismail Mustafa
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                                Good to know :) Its not that I'm actually trying to change people's opinions. I am who I am and I'm the type that doesn't carry with mass stereotypes and I certainly can't stand people who spoil it for the rest. There's more than a billion Muslims and a pathetic fraction of them are making it hell for the rest. I can't stand that.

                                Don't forget to vote if the response was helpful


                                Sig history "dad" Ishmail-Samuel Mustafa "There is no wealth like knowledge, no poverty like ignorance" Ali Ibn Abi Talib

                                Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote: Keep it up. Fool.

                                I now think of you as Mr. T! - Trollslayer

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                                • C Christian Graus

                                  *cheers* about time for someone who knows the teachings of Islam to put this clown in his place.

                                  Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista.

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                                  Mustafa Ismail Mustafa
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                                  The pleasure is all mine :)

                                  Don't forget to vote if the response was helpful


                                  Sig history "dad" Ishmail-Samuel Mustafa "There is no wealth like knowledge, no poverty like ignorance" Ali Ibn Abi Talib

                                  Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote: Keep it up. Fool.

                                  I now think of you as Mr. T! - Trollslayer

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                                  • B BoneSoft

                                    Ka?l wrote:

                                    I don't believe it. Hezbollah has no interest to do so

                                    Yeah, why would any non-Hamas Arab shoot stuff at Israel? They all love Israel, right? :rolleyes: I guess you'll REALLY be shocked with what Iran does when they get their nuclear program together.


                                    Visit BoneSoft.com for code generation tools (XML & XSD -> C#, VB, etc...) and some free developer tools as well.

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                                    KaRl
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                                    Hezbollah's legimity is about being a resistance movement, a movement able to defend Lebanon against Israeli aggression. They have no interest to become aggressors. Hezbollah is also part of the Lebanese governement. If they violate UN1701, they would loose all the political gains they got from the last Israeli invasion

                                    When they kick at your front door How you gonna come? With your hands on your head Or on the trigger of your gun?

                                    Fold with us! ¤ flickr

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