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    Jamie Nordmeyer
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    What is it with people and their apparent inability to be considerate of others once they get behind the wheel. At least in the Portland Metro area, people seem to have forgotten that using your blinker is not just a good idea, it's the law. Seriously, half the people here don't even bother any more. How much work is it, honestly, to flick that little lever on the side of your steering wheel? A hundredth of a calorie, maybe? I can understand forgetting from time to time. Even I do that. I'm talking about the drivers that change lanes 3 times, turn twice, then get mad at me when I'm honking at them because they cut me off, having not once used their blinker. I also had someone flick their cigarette out the window, cherry still hot, and strike my hood. I immediately took down his plate number in case there was damage, but fortunately, there was none. However, it can happen, as my fiance's car has a small cigarette burn on it from the same thing. Seriously, why's it so hard to use an ash tray? At least use it to put the damn thing out before flicking it in to the wind to who knows where. If people actually used a few of their brain cells when driving, there'd be a lot less road rage. But that requires energy that people just don't seem to have any more.

    Kyosa Jamie Nordmeyer - Taekwondo Yi (2nd) Dan Portland, Oregon, USA

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      What is it with people and their apparent inability to be considerate of others once they get behind the wheel. At least in the Portland Metro area, people seem to have forgotten that using your blinker is not just a good idea, it's the law. Seriously, half the people here don't even bother any more. How much work is it, honestly, to flick that little lever on the side of your steering wheel? A hundredth of a calorie, maybe? I can understand forgetting from time to time. Even I do that. I'm talking about the drivers that change lanes 3 times, turn twice, then get mad at me when I'm honking at them because they cut me off, having not once used their blinker. I also had someone flick their cigarette out the window, cherry still hot, and strike my hood. I immediately took down his plate number in case there was damage, but fortunately, there was none. However, it can happen, as my fiance's car has a small cigarette burn on it from the same thing. Seriously, why's it so hard to use an ash tray? At least use it to put the damn thing out before flicking it in to the wind to who knows where. If people actually used a few of their brain cells when driving, there'd be a lot less road rage. But that requires energy that people just don't seem to have any more.

      Kyosa Jamie Nordmeyer - Taekwondo Yi (2nd) Dan Portland, Oregon, USA

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      Dalek Dave
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      In UK Indicators are not Legal. That is to say it is good driving sense to use them, but not legally forced. That is becasue of their name, Indicators. They indicate that you may be turning right or left, but do not force you to do so. My presonal bugbear is wankers who leave Fog Lights on after the fog has gone. They should be stabbed in the rectum until they learn to turn them off!

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        What is it with people and their apparent inability to be considerate of others once they get behind the wheel. At least in the Portland Metro area, people seem to have forgotten that using your blinker is not just a good idea, it's the law. Seriously, half the people here don't even bother any more. How much work is it, honestly, to flick that little lever on the side of your steering wheel? A hundredth of a calorie, maybe? I can understand forgetting from time to time. Even I do that. I'm talking about the drivers that change lanes 3 times, turn twice, then get mad at me when I'm honking at them because they cut me off, having not once used their blinker. I also had someone flick their cigarette out the window, cherry still hot, and strike my hood. I immediately took down his plate number in case there was damage, but fortunately, there was none. However, it can happen, as my fiance's car has a small cigarette burn on it from the same thing. Seriously, why's it so hard to use an ash tray? At least use it to put the damn thing out before flicking it in to the wind to who knows where. If people actually used a few of their brain cells when driving, there'd be a lot less road rage. But that requires energy that people just don't seem to have any more.

        Kyosa Jamie Nordmeyer - Taekwondo Yi (2nd) Dan Portland, Oregon, USA

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        Oakman
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        Jamie Nordmeyer wrote:

        people seem to have forgotten that using your blinker is not just a good idea, it's the law.

        How can you possibly expect them to flick their blinker when they are holding a cell phone in their left hand and a cup of coffee in their right? Do you expect them to take their knees off the wheel? :confused:

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          What is it with people and their apparent inability to be considerate of others once they get behind the wheel. At least in the Portland Metro area, people seem to have forgotten that using your blinker is not just a good idea, it's the law. Seriously, half the people here don't even bother any more. How much work is it, honestly, to flick that little lever on the side of your steering wheel? A hundredth of a calorie, maybe? I can understand forgetting from time to time. Even I do that. I'm talking about the drivers that change lanes 3 times, turn twice, then get mad at me when I'm honking at them because they cut me off, having not once used their blinker. I also had someone flick their cigarette out the window, cherry still hot, and strike my hood. I immediately took down his plate number in case there was damage, but fortunately, there was none. However, it can happen, as my fiance's car has a small cigarette burn on it from the same thing. Seriously, why's it so hard to use an ash tray? At least use it to put the damn thing out before flicking it in to the wind to who knows where. If people actually used a few of their brain cells when driving, there'd be a lot less road rage. But that requires energy that people just don't seem to have any more.

          Kyosa Jamie Nordmeyer - Taekwondo Yi (2nd) Dan Portland, Oregon, USA

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          J4amieC
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          Cigarette butt causes damage to car? really? Thats got to be some pretty shitty american paintwork to not be able to withstand the temperature of a ciggy for the nanosecond its in contact with the paintwork (That is assuming the car is in motion - if its parked up and a butt lands on it I can see how that may damage the paintwork).

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            Jamie Nordmeyer wrote:

            people seem to have forgotten that using your blinker is not just a good idea, it's the law.

            How can you possibly expect them to flick their blinker when they are holding a cell phone in their left hand and a cup of coffee in their right? Do you expect them to take their knees off the wheel? :confused:

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            Jamie Nordmeyer
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            They can use their nose. ;)

            Kyosa Jamie Nordmeyer - Taekwondo Yi (2nd) Dan Portland, Oregon, USA

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              Cigarette butt causes damage to car? really? Thats got to be some pretty shitty american paintwork to not be able to withstand the temperature of a ciggy for the nanosecond its in contact with the paintwork (That is assuming the car is in motion - if its parked up and a butt lands on it I can see how that may damage the paintwork).

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              Jamie Nordmeyer
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              Actually, it's German. :) She drives a Mini Cooper. It's barely visible, but it's there. I was surprised to. Cars aside, cigarettes have still caused fires along the road.

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                In UK Indicators are not Legal. That is to say it is good driving sense to use them, but not legally forced. That is becasue of their name, Indicators. They indicate that you may be turning right or left, but do not force you to do so. My presonal bugbear is wankers who leave Fog Lights on after the fog has gone. They should be stabbed in the rectum until they learn to turn them off!

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                NormDroid
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                Dalek Dave wrote:

                My presonal bugbear is wankers who leave Fog Lights on after the fog has gone.

                People who sit in the 2nd and 3rd lanewith , not a car for over 1/2 mile and yet wont move over, and you wonder why I undertake the bastards. Lane discipline, it's not hard.

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                  Cigarette butt causes damage to car? really? Thats got to be some pretty shitty american paintwork to not be able to withstand the temperature of a ciggy for the nanosecond its in contact with the paintwork (That is assuming the car is in motion - if its parked up and a butt lands on it I can see how that may damage the paintwork).

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                  NormDroid
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                  Cigarette butt maybe not, but I once saw a white van hurl a Stella can out of the drivers window and hit the car in front of me:omg: on the M62, needless to say after a quick call to the police and he was met when he pulled on to the M60 ring road.

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                    Cigarette butt maybe not, but I once saw a white van hurl a Stella can out of the drivers window and hit the car in front of me:omg: on the M62, needless to say after a quick call to the police and he was met when he pulled on to the M60 ring road.

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                    Matthew Faithfull
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                    I find that remarkable and somewhat cheering, who did you call. I tried to report a flatbed truck driver for crashing into a stationary bus while driving like an insane chimp on a main road in London a few years ago and was told I was not allowed to report it as I was not a victim of the incident, despite the fact that he had come close enough to me for me to feel it, doing at least 60, and I was on a bicycle. The bus drive had personally requested that I report the incident because his employer would sack him if he got off his bus during his shift or used his radio to try and report it. :wtf: Similar happened when I tried to report an empty car parked illegally right under a major motorway bridge, not burned out and abandonned but neatly parked, end on to the road, not as if it had just pulled up, undamaged and conveniently out of sight to almost anyone who didn't happen to be passing slowly or on foot. The idea that this might just pose a terrorist threat totally confused the idiots at Crime Stoppers who seemed unable to concieve how that could be. :doh:

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                      In UK Indicators are not Legal. That is to say it is good driving sense to use them, but not legally forced. That is becasue of their name, Indicators. They indicate that you may be turning right or left, but do not force you to do so. My presonal bugbear is wankers who leave Fog Lights on after the fog has gone. They should be stabbed in the rectum until they learn to turn them off!

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                      Dalek Dave wrote:

                      My presonal bugbear is wankers who leave Fog Lights on after the fog has gone.

                      Isn't that why cars are equipped with full beam? :evilgrin:

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                        What is it with people and their apparent inability to be considerate of others once they get behind the wheel. At least in the Portland Metro area, people seem to have forgotten that using your blinker is not just a good idea, it's the law. Seriously, half the people here don't even bother any more. How much work is it, honestly, to flick that little lever on the side of your steering wheel? A hundredth of a calorie, maybe? I can understand forgetting from time to time. Even I do that. I'm talking about the drivers that change lanes 3 times, turn twice, then get mad at me when I'm honking at them because they cut me off, having not once used their blinker. I also had someone flick their cigarette out the window, cherry still hot, and strike my hood. I immediately took down his plate number in case there was damage, but fortunately, there was none. However, it can happen, as my fiance's car has a small cigarette burn on it from the same thing. Seriously, why's it so hard to use an ash tray? At least use it to put the damn thing out before flicking it in to the wind to who knows where. If people actually used a few of their brain cells when driving, there'd be a lot less road rage. But that requires energy that people just don't seem to have any more.

                        Kyosa Jamie Nordmeyer - Taekwondo Yi (2nd) Dan Portland, Oregon, USA

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                        KaRl
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                        Jamie Nordmeyer wrote:

                        At least in the Portland Metro area, people seem to have forgotten that using your blinker is not just a good idea,

                        Just a half? You're lucky then! :sigh: Being a biker, if I was not careful for the car drivers, I would be killed at least twice a day :mad:

                        If you kill a whale, you get Greenpeace and Jacques Cousteau on your back, but wipe out sardines and you get a canning subsidy!

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                          Jamie Nordmeyer wrote:

                          At least in the Portland Metro area, people seem to have forgotten that using your blinker is not just a good idea,

                          Just a half? You're lucky then! :sigh: Being a biker, if I was not careful for the car drivers, I would be killed at least twice a day :mad:

                          If you kill a whale, you get Greenpeace and Jacques Cousteau on your back, but wipe out sardines and you get a canning subsidy!

                          Fold with us! ¤ flickr

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                          Jamie Nordmeyer
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                          Yeah, I've seen a few bikers almost wiped out here. Even Harley's, which are really loud, and not that easy to miss.

                          Kyosa Jamie Nordmeyer - Taekwondo Yi (2nd) Dan Portland, Oregon, USA

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                            Yeah, I've seen a few bikers almost wiped out here. Even Harley's, which are really loud, and not that easy to miss.

                            Kyosa Jamie Nordmeyer - Taekwondo Yi (2nd) Dan Portland, Oregon, USA

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                            KaRl
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                            Jamie Nordmeyer wrote:

                            Even Harley's

                            I was thinking about real bikes, not about tillers-like machine with one wheel front and one behind. :)

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                              What is it with people and their apparent inability to be considerate of others once they get behind the wheel. At least in the Portland Metro area, people seem to have forgotten that using your blinker is not just a good idea, it's the law. Seriously, half the people here don't even bother any more. How much work is it, honestly, to flick that little lever on the side of your steering wheel? A hundredth of a calorie, maybe? I can understand forgetting from time to time. Even I do that. I'm talking about the drivers that change lanes 3 times, turn twice, then get mad at me when I'm honking at them because they cut me off, having not once used their blinker. I also had someone flick their cigarette out the window, cherry still hot, and strike my hood. I immediately took down his plate number in case there was damage, but fortunately, there was none. However, it can happen, as my fiance's car has a small cigarette burn on it from the same thing. Seriously, why's it so hard to use an ash tray? At least use it to put the damn thing out before flicking it in to the wind to who knows where. If people actually used a few of their brain cells when driving, there'd be a lot less road rage. But that requires energy that people just don't seem to have any more.

                              Kyosa Jamie Nordmeyer - Taekwondo Yi (2nd) Dan Portland, Oregon, USA

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                              I was intently reading your post paying attention to every syllable till I got to this part.

                              Jamie Nordmeyer wrote:

                              Portland Metro area

                              Then a most famous quote from the bank examiner in it's A Wonderful Life came to mind... "Well they do that sort of thing don't they..." Isn't Portland a neighborhood in Brooklyn? :)

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                                Jamie Nordmeyer wrote:

                                people seem to have forgotten that using your blinker is not just a good idea, it's the law.

                                How can you possibly expect them to flick their blinker when they are holding a cell phone in their left hand and a cup of coffee in their right? Do you expect them to take their knees off the wheel? :confused:

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                                In my daily commute, I'd swear I've seen it all, and am still continually surprised. I've seen people reading books spayed across the steering wheel, shaving, doing their makeup, yapping on the phone, eating, and just about every possible combination. I saw a girl doing her makeup in the drop down mirror while yapping on the phone, and I swear she had a third hand doing something else I can't remember. But the best display of retardation was a van that was straddling the line, and once I caught a break to pass looked over to see that she was steering with her elbow while eating something out of a bowl. I think most people have come to the conclusion that driving is wasted time. For some strange reason, the vast majority decided to abandon driving (while driving) to do everything else they can think of. On a tiny percentage of us pragmatically decided to speed the hell up and get it over with. But overall, I think people in general have become more self centered inconsiderate bastards. Which is most evident in the car where they feel retribution is unlikely.


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                                  In my daily commute, I'd swear I've seen it all, and am still continually surprised. I've seen people reading books spayed across the steering wheel, shaving, doing their makeup, yapping on the phone, eating, and just about every possible combination. I saw a girl doing her makeup in the drop down mirror while yapping on the phone, and I swear she had a third hand doing something else I can't remember. But the best display of retardation was a van that was straddling the line, and once I caught a break to pass looked over to see that she was steering with her elbow while eating something out of a bowl. I think most people have come to the conclusion that driving is wasted time. For some strange reason, the vast majority decided to abandon driving (while driving) to do everything else they can think of. On a tiny percentage of us pragmatically decided to speed the hell up and get it over with. But overall, I think people in general have become more self centered inconsiderate bastards. Which is most evident in the car where they feel retribution is unlikely.


                                  Visit BoneSoft.com for code generation tools (XML & XSD -> C#, VB, etc...) and some free developer tools as well.

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                                  I've got a couple of examples to add - I once pulled up to a traffic light next to a pickup truck that had bumper sticker saying 'Hang up and drive!'. The driver was on the phone and was typing on his open laptop on the passenger seat. But the weirdest one I saw was when I pulled up next to a driver playing guitar. Scott

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                                    I've got a couple of examples to add - I once pulled up to a traffic light next to a pickup truck that had bumper sticker saying 'Hang up and drive!'. The driver was on the phone and was typing on his open laptop on the passenger seat. But the weirdest one I saw was when I pulled up next to a driver playing guitar. Scott

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                                    BoneSoft
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                                    scottgp wrote:

                                    I pulled up next to a driver playing guitar

                                    :laugh: That beats driving with one foot out the window. I thought that lady was just about as nutty as you could get. I know that in Japan talking on the phone while driving is illegal (though it's not well enforced), I'm sure it is in other places. I wish it was at least legal to run them off the road, or if they would exempt you from taking responsibility for any damage you might cause to their car (rocks, golf club, dynamite, etc).


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                                      I was intently reading your post paying attention to every syllable till I got to this part.

                                      Jamie Nordmeyer wrote:

                                      Portland Metro area

                                      Then a most famous quote from the bank examiner in it's A Wonderful Life came to mind... "Well they do that sort of thing don't they..." Isn't Portland a neighborhood in Brooklyn? :)

                                      MrPlankton

                                      Multicultural Diversity Training, the new Socialist Reeducation Camp-light.

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                                      Jamie Nordmeyer
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                                      Portland, Oregon, actually. We like to blame it on the Californians that move here, but as much as some Oregonians don't like to admit it, they're just as bad.

                                      Kyosa Jamie Nordmeyer - Taekwondo Yi (2nd) Dan Portland, Oregon, USA

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                                        What is it with people and their apparent inability to be considerate of others once they get behind the wheel. At least in the Portland Metro area, people seem to have forgotten that using your blinker is not just a good idea, it's the law. Seriously, half the people here don't even bother any more. How much work is it, honestly, to flick that little lever on the side of your steering wheel? A hundredth of a calorie, maybe? I can understand forgetting from time to time. Even I do that. I'm talking about the drivers that change lanes 3 times, turn twice, then get mad at me when I'm honking at them because they cut me off, having not once used their blinker. I also had someone flick their cigarette out the window, cherry still hot, and strike my hood. I immediately took down his plate number in case there was damage, but fortunately, there was none. However, it can happen, as my fiance's car has a small cigarette burn on it from the same thing. Seriously, why's it so hard to use an ash tray? At least use it to put the damn thing out before flicking it in to the wind to who knows where. If people actually used a few of their brain cells when driving, there'd be a lot less road rage. But that requires energy that people just don't seem to have any more.

                                        Kyosa Jamie Nordmeyer - Taekwondo Yi (2nd) Dan Portland, Oregon, USA

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                                        Not going to lie Ive thrown a lit cigarette or two out the window before...

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                                          Portland, Oregon, actually. We like to blame it on the Californians that move here, but as much as some Oregonians don't like to admit it, they're just as bad.

                                          Kyosa Jamie Nordmeyer - Taekwondo Yi (2nd) Dan Portland, Oregon, USA

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                                          I have a cousin that lives in Portland. She rides her bike to work, she likes to tell me what a 'refined' city Portland is.

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