Drivers
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In UK Indicators are not Legal. That is to say it is good driving sense to use them, but not legally forced. That is becasue of their name, Indicators. They indicate that you may be turning right or left, but do not force you to do so. My presonal bugbear is wankers who leave Fog Lights on after the fog has gone. They should be stabbed in the rectum until they learn to turn them off!
------------------------------------ "The greatest tragedy in mankind's entire history may be the hijacking of morality by religion" Arthur C Clarke
Dalek Dave wrote:
My presonal bugbear is wankers who leave Fog Lights on after the fog has gone.
Isn't that why cars are equipped with full beam? :evilgrin:
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What is it with people and their apparent inability to be considerate of others once they get behind the wheel. At least in the Portland Metro area, people seem to have forgotten that using your blinker is not just a good idea, it's the law. Seriously, half the people here don't even bother any more. How much work is it, honestly, to flick that little lever on the side of your steering wheel? A hundredth of a calorie, maybe? I can understand forgetting from time to time. Even I do that. I'm talking about the drivers that change lanes 3 times, turn twice, then get mad at me when I'm honking at them because they cut me off, having not once used their blinker. I also had someone flick their cigarette out the window, cherry still hot, and strike my hood. I immediately took down his plate number in case there was damage, but fortunately, there was none. However, it can happen, as my fiance's car has a small cigarette burn on it from the same thing. Seriously, why's it so hard to use an ash tray? At least use it to put the damn thing out before flicking it in to the wind to who knows where. If people actually used a few of their brain cells when driving, there'd be a lot less road rage. But that requires energy that people just don't seem to have any more.
Kyosa Jamie Nordmeyer - Taekwondo Yi (2nd) Dan Portland, Oregon, USA
Jamie Nordmeyer wrote:
At least in the Portland Metro area, people seem to have forgotten that using your blinker is not just a good idea,
Just a half? You're lucky then! :sigh: Being a biker, if I was not careful for the car drivers, I would be killed at least twice a day :mad:
If you kill a whale, you get Greenpeace and Jacques Cousteau on your back, but wipe out sardines and you get a canning subsidy!
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Jamie Nordmeyer wrote:
At least in the Portland Metro area, people seem to have forgotten that using your blinker is not just a good idea,
Just a half? You're lucky then! :sigh: Being a biker, if I was not careful for the car drivers, I would be killed at least twice a day :mad:
If you kill a whale, you get Greenpeace and Jacques Cousteau on your back, but wipe out sardines and you get a canning subsidy!
Yeah, I've seen a few bikers almost wiped out here. Even Harley's, which are really loud, and not that easy to miss.
Kyosa Jamie Nordmeyer - Taekwondo Yi (2nd) Dan Portland, Oregon, USA
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Yeah, I've seen a few bikers almost wiped out here. Even Harley's, which are really loud, and not that easy to miss.
Kyosa Jamie Nordmeyer - Taekwondo Yi (2nd) Dan Portland, Oregon, USA
Jamie Nordmeyer wrote:
Even Harley's
I was thinking about real bikes, not about tillers-like machine with one wheel front and one behind. :)
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What is it with people and their apparent inability to be considerate of others once they get behind the wheel. At least in the Portland Metro area, people seem to have forgotten that using your blinker is not just a good idea, it's the law. Seriously, half the people here don't even bother any more. How much work is it, honestly, to flick that little lever on the side of your steering wheel? A hundredth of a calorie, maybe? I can understand forgetting from time to time. Even I do that. I'm talking about the drivers that change lanes 3 times, turn twice, then get mad at me when I'm honking at them because they cut me off, having not once used their blinker. I also had someone flick their cigarette out the window, cherry still hot, and strike my hood. I immediately took down his plate number in case there was damage, but fortunately, there was none. However, it can happen, as my fiance's car has a small cigarette burn on it from the same thing. Seriously, why's it so hard to use an ash tray? At least use it to put the damn thing out before flicking it in to the wind to who knows where. If people actually used a few of their brain cells when driving, there'd be a lot less road rage. But that requires energy that people just don't seem to have any more.
Kyosa Jamie Nordmeyer - Taekwondo Yi (2nd) Dan Portland, Oregon, USA
I was intently reading your post paying attention to every syllable till I got to this part.
Jamie Nordmeyer wrote:
Portland Metro area
Then a most famous quote from the bank examiner in it's A Wonderful Life came to mind... "Well they do that sort of thing don't they..." Isn't Portland a neighborhood in Brooklyn? :)
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Multicultural Diversity Training, the new Socialist Reeducation Camp-light.
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Jamie Nordmeyer wrote:
people seem to have forgotten that using your blinker is not just a good idea, it's the law.
How can you possibly expect them to flick their blinker when they are holding a cell phone in their left hand and a cup of coffee in their right? Do you expect them to take their knees off the wheel? :confused:
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In my daily commute, I'd swear I've seen it all, and am still continually surprised. I've seen people reading books spayed across the steering wheel, shaving, doing their makeup, yapping on the phone, eating, and just about every possible combination. I saw a girl doing her makeup in the drop down mirror while yapping on the phone, and I swear she had a third hand doing something else I can't remember. But the best display of retardation was a van that was straddling the line, and once I caught a break to pass looked over to see that she was steering with her elbow while eating something out of a bowl. I think most people have come to the conclusion that driving is wasted time. For some strange reason, the vast majority decided to abandon driving (while driving) to do everything else they can think of. On a tiny percentage of us pragmatically decided to speed the hell up and get it over with. But overall, I think people in general have become more self centered inconsiderate bastards. Which is most evident in the car where they feel retribution is unlikely.
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In my daily commute, I'd swear I've seen it all, and am still continually surprised. I've seen people reading books spayed across the steering wheel, shaving, doing their makeup, yapping on the phone, eating, and just about every possible combination. I saw a girl doing her makeup in the drop down mirror while yapping on the phone, and I swear she had a third hand doing something else I can't remember. But the best display of retardation was a van that was straddling the line, and once I caught a break to pass looked over to see that she was steering with her elbow while eating something out of a bowl. I think most people have come to the conclusion that driving is wasted time. For some strange reason, the vast majority decided to abandon driving (while driving) to do everything else they can think of. On a tiny percentage of us pragmatically decided to speed the hell up and get it over with. But overall, I think people in general have become more self centered inconsiderate bastards. Which is most evident in the car where they feel retribution is unlikely.
Visit BoneSoft.com for code generation tools (XML & XSD -> C#, VB, etc...) and some free developer tools as well.
I've got a couple of examples to add - I once pulled up to a traffic light next to a pickup truck that had bumper sticker saying 'Hang up and drive!'. The driver was on the phone and was typing on his open laptop on the passenger seat. But the weirdest one I saw was when I pulled up next to a driver playing guitar. Scott
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I've got a couple of examples to add - I once pulled up to a traffic light next to a pickup truck that had bumper sticker saying 'Hang up and drive!'. The driver was on the phone and was typing on his open laptop on the passenger seat. But the weirdest one I saw was when I pulled up next to a driver playing guitar. Scott
scottgp wrote:
I pulled up next to a driver playing guitar
:laugh: That beats driving with one foot out the window. I thought that lady was just about as nutty as you could get. I know that in Japan talking on the phone while driving is illegal (though it's not well enforced), I'm sure it is in other places. I wish it was at least legal to run them off the road, or if they would exempt you from taking responsibility for any damage you might cause to their car (rocks, golf club, dynamite, etc).
Visit BoneSoft.com for code generation tools (XML & XSD -> C#, VB, etc...) and some free developer tools as well.
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I was intently reading your post paying attention to every syllable till I got to this part.
Jamie Nordmeyer wrote:
Portland Metro area
Then a most famous quote from the bank examiner in it's A Wonderful Life came to mind... "Well they do that sort of thing don't they..." Isn't Portland a neighborhood in Brooklyn? :)
MrPlankton
Multicultural Diversity Training, the new Socialist Reeducation Camp-light.
Portland, Oregon, actually. We like to blame it on the Californians that move here, but as much as some Oregonians don't like to admit it, they're just as bad.
Kyosa Jamie Nordmeyer - Taekwondo Yi (2nd) Dan Portland, Oregon, USA
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What is it with people and their apparent inability to be considerate of others once they get behind the wheel. At least in the Portland Metro area, people seem to have forgotten that using your blinker is not just a good idea, it's the law. Seriously, half the people here don't even bother any more. How much work is it, honestly, to flick that little lever on the side of your steering wheel? A hundredth of a calorie, maybe? I can understand forgetting from time to time. Even I do that. I'm talking about the drivers that change lanes 3 times, turn twice, then get mad at me when I'm honking at them because they cut me off, having not once used their blinker. I also had someone flick their cigarette out the window, cherry still hot, and strike my hood. I immediately took down his plate number in case there was damage, but fortunately, there was none. However, it can happen, as my fiance's car has a small cigarette burn on it from the same thing. Seriously, why's it so hard to use an ash tray? At least use it to put the damn thing out before flicking it in to the wind to who knows where. If people actually used a few of their brain cells when driving, there'd be a lot less road rage. But that requires energy that people just don't seem to have any more.
Kyosa Jamie Nordmeyer - Taekwondo Yi (2nd) Dan Portland, Oregon, USA
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Portland, Oregon, actually. We like to blame it on the Californians that move here, but as much as some Oregonians don't like to admit it, they're just as bad.
Kyosa Jamie Nordmeyer - Taekwondo Yi (2nd) Dan Portland, Oregon, USA
I have a cousin that lives in Portland. She rides her bike to work, she likes to tell me what a 'refined' city Portland is.
MrPlankton
Multicultural Diversity Training, the new Socialist Reeducation Camp-light.
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I have a cousin that lives in Portland. She rides her bike to work, she likes to tell me what a 'refined' city Portland is.
MrPlankton
Multicultural Diversity Training, the new Socialist Reeducation Camp-light.
I don't know if I'd call it "refined" per say, but it's certainly different. :rolleyes:
Kyosa Jamie Nordmeyer - Taekwondo Yi (2nd) Dan Portland, Oregon, USA
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In UK Indicators are not Legal. That is to say it is good driving sense to use them, but not legally forced. That is becasue of their name, Indicators. They indicate that you may be turning right or left, but do not force you to do so. My presonal bugbear is wankers who leave Fog Lights on after the fog has gone. They should be stabbed in the rectum until they learn to turn them off!
------------------------------------ "The greatest tragedy in mankind's entire history may be the hijacking of morality by religion" Arthur C Clarke
Dalek Dave wrote:
In UK Indicators are not Legal.
But do you still have separate lanes for turning left and right to let other drivers know that you are going to turn left or right?
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Yeah, I've seen a few bikers almost wiped out here. Even Harley's, which are really loud, and not that easy to miss.
Kyosa Jamie Nordmeyer - Taekwondo Yi (2nd) Dan Portland, Oregon, USA
I used to ride a 600cc and drivers were constantly pulling out in front of me. I read up a bit on it and discovered that most drivers who pulled out on bikers, and caused an accident, did not see the biker. My theory is that drivers are trained to see cars and not bikes, so somehow they will pull out in front of you even when you have your headlight on.
Continuous effort - not strength or intelligence - is the key to unlocking our potential.(Winston Churchill)
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I used to ride a 600cc and drivers were constantly pulling out in front of me. I read up a bit on it and discovered that most drivers who pulled out on bikers, and caused an accident, did not see the biker. My theory is that drivers are trained to see cars and not bikes, so somehow they will pull out in front of you even when you have your headlight on.
Continuous effort - not strength or intelligence - is the key to unlocking our potential.(Winston Churchill)
You obviously have more faith left in humanity than I do. My theory is that people are mostly inconsiderate monkeys who are only concerned with their own little world. Even when their own little world is barreling down the road at 60mph. Not everybody of course, but it seems ever increasing. But you're probably right that most drivers just aren't familiar enough with bikes to know how to interact with them.
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You obviously have more faith left in humanity than I do. My theory is that people are mostly inconsiderate monkeys who are only concerned with their own little world. Even when their own little world is barreling down the road at 60mph. Not everybody of course, but it seems ever increasing. But you're probably right that most drivers just aren't familiar enough with bikes to know how to interact with them.
Visit BoneSoft.com for code generation tools (XML & XSD -> C#, VB, etc...) and some free developer tools as well.
One of the reasons I stopped riding was when drivers would pull out in front of me I would sometimes chase them to the next set of lights and scream at them (flip top Schuberth helmet - only the best will do), and being a big lad this tended to scare the shit out of them - which I was not too proud of :sigh:
Continuous effort - not strength or intelligence - is the key to unlocking our potential.(Winston Churchill)
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One of the reasons I stopped riding was when drivers would pull out in front of me I would sometimes chase them to the next set of lights and scream at them (flip top Schuberth helmet - only the best will do), and being a big lad this tended to scare the shit out of them - which I was not too proud of :sigh:
Continuous effort - not strength or intelligence - is the key to unlocking our potential.(Winston Churchill)
Some people need a constant reminder that there are 6.7 billion others on the planet too. Somehow seeing them walk around all over the place just isn't enough for some people.
Visit BoneSoft.com for code generation tools (XML & XSD -> C#, VB, etc...) and some free developer tools as well.
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Dalek Dave wrote:
My presonal bugbear is wankers who leave Fog Lights on after the fog has gone.
People who sit in the 2nd and 3rd lanewith , not a car for over 1/2 mile and yet wont move over, and you wonder why I undertake the bastards. Lane discipline, it's not hard.
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What is it with people and their apparent inability to be considerate of others once they get behind the wheel. At least in the Portland Metro area, people seem to have forgotten that using your blinker is not just a good idea, it's the law. Seriously, half the people here don't even bother any more. How much work is it, honestly, to flick that little lever on the side of your steering wheel? A hundredth of a calorie, maybe? I can understand forgetting from time to time. Even I do that. I'm talking about the drivers that change lanes 3 times, turn twice, then get mad at me when I'm honking at them because they cut me off, having not once used their blinker. I also had someone flick their cigarette out the window, cherry still hot, and strike my hood. I immediately took down his plate number in case there was damage, but fortunately, there was none. However, it can happen, as my fiance's car has a small cigarette burn on it from the same thing. Seriously, why's it so hard to use an ash tray? At least use it to put the damn thing out before flicking it in to the wind to who knows where. If people actually used a few of their brain cells when driving, there'd be a lot less road rage. But that requires energy that people just don't seem to have any more.
Kyosa Jamie Nordmeyer - Taekwondo Yi (2nd) Dan Portland, Oregon, USA
Jamie Nordmeyer wrote:
Seriously, half the people here don't even bother any more
It's probably a conditioned response to other rude drives who close up the gap when you signal your intention to switch lanes.
Gary Kirkham Forever Forgiven and Alive in the Spirit "Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life. Me blog, You read
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Jamie Nordmeyer wrote:
Seriously, half the people here don't even bother any more
It's probably a conditioned response to other rude drives who close up the gap when you signal your intention to switch lanes.
Gary Kirkham Forever Forgiven and Alive in the Spirit "Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life. Me blog, You read
Possibly. I know that people definitely tend to speed up when you want to get over, rather than be 3 seconds later getting to their destination.
Kyosa Jamie Nordmeyer - Taekwondo Yi (2nd) Dan Portland, Oregon, USA