Drivers
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Portland, Oregon, actually. We like to blame it on the Californians that move here, but as much as some Oregonians don't like to admit it, they're just as bad.
Kyosa Jamie Nordmeyer - Taekwondo Yi (2nd) Dan Portland, Oregon, USA
I have a cousin that lives in Portland. She rides her bike to work, she likes to tell me what a 'refined' city Portland is.
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I have a cousin that lives in Portland. She rides her bike to work, she likes to tell me what a 'refined' city Portland is.
MrPlankton
Multicultural Diversity Training, the new Socialist Reeducation Camp-light.
I don't know if I'd call it "refined" per say, but it's certainly different. :rolleyes:
Kyosa Jamie Nordmeyer - Taekwondo Yi (2nd) Dan Portland, Oregon, USA
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In UK Indicators are not Legal. That is to say it is good driving sense to use them, but not legally forced. That is becasue of their name, Indicators. They indicate that you may be turning right or left, but do not force you to do so. My presonal bugbear is wankers who leave Fog Lights on after the fog has gone. They should be stabbed in the rectum until they learn to turn them off!
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Dalek Dave wrote:
In UK Indicators are not Legal.
But do you still have separate lanes for turning left and right to let other drivers know that you are going to turn left or right?
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Yeah, I've seen a few bikers almost wiped out here. Even Harley's, which are really loud, and not that easy to miss.
Kyosa Jamie Nordmeyer - Taekwondo Yi (2nd) Dan Portland, Oregon, USA
I used to ride a 600cc and drivers were constantly pulling out in front of me. I read up a bit on it and discovered that most drivers who pulled out on bikers, and caused an accident, did not see the biker. My theory is that drivers are trained to see cars and not bikes, so somehow they will pull out in front of you even when you have your headlight on.
Continuous effort - not strength or intelligence - is the key to unlocking our potential.(Winston Churchill)
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I used to ride a 600cc and drivers were constantly pulling out in front of me. I read up a bit on it and discovered that most drivers who pulled out on bikers, and caused an accident, did not see the biker. My theory is that drivers are trained to see cars and not bikes, so somehow they will pull out in front of you even when you have your headlight on.
Continuous effort - not strength or intelligence - is the key to unlocking our potential.(Winston Churchill)
You obviously have more faith left in humanity than I do. My theory is that people are mostly inconsiderate monkeys who are only concerned with their own little world. Even when their own little world is barreling down the road at 60mph. Not everybody of course, but it seems ever increasing. But you're probably right that most drivers just aren't familiar enough with bikes to know how to interact with them.
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You obviously have more faith left in humanity than I do. My theory is that people are mostly inconsiderate monkeys who are only concerned with their own little world. Even when their own little world is barreling down the road at 60mph. Not everybody of course, but it seems ever increasing. But you're probably right that most drivers just aren't familiar enough with bikes to know how to interact with them.
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One of the reasons I stopped riding was when drivers would pull out in front of me I would sometimes chase them to the next set of lights and scream at them (flip top Schuberth helmet - only the best will do), and being a big lad this tended to scare the shit out of them - which I was not too proud of :sigh:
Continuous effort - not strength or intelligence - is the key to unlocking our potential.(Winston Churchill)
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One of the reasons I stopped riding was when drivers would pull out in front of me I would sometimes chase them to the next set of lights and scream at them (flip top Schuberth helmet - only the best will do), and being a big lad this tended to scare the shit out of them - which I was not too proud of :sigh:
Continuous effort - not strength or intelligence - is the key to unlocking our potential.(Winston Churchill)
Some people need a constant reminder that there are 6.7 billion others on the planet too. Somehow seeing them walk around all over the place just isn't enough for some people.
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Dalek Dave wrote:
My presonal bugbear is wankers who leave Fog Lights on after the fog has gone.
People who sit in the 2nd and 3rd lanewith , not a car for over 1/2 mile and yet wont move over, and you wonder why I undertake the bastards. Lane discipline, it's not hard.
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What is it with people and their apparent inability to be considerate of others once they get behind the wheel. At least in the Portland Metro area, people seem to have forgotten that using your blinker is not just a good idea, it's the law. Seriously, half the people here don't even bother any more. How much work is it, honestly, to flick that little lever on the side of your steering wheel? A hundredth of a calorie, maybe? I can understand forgetting from time to time. Even I do that. I'm talking about the drivers that change lanes 3 times, turn twice, then get mad at me when I'm honking at them because they cut me off, having not once used their blinker. I also had someone flick their cigarette out the window, cherry still hot, and strike my hood. I immediately took down his plate number in case there was damage, but fortunately, there was none. However, it can happen, as my fiance's car has a small cigarette burn on it from the same thing. Seriously, why's it so hard to use an ash tray? At least use it to put the damn thing out before flicking it in to the wind to who knows where. If people actually used a few of their brain cells when driving, there'd be a lot less road rage. But that requires energy that people just don't seem to have any more.
Kyosa Jamie Nordmeyer - Taekwondo Yi (2nd) Dan Portland, Oregon, USA
Jamie Nordmeyer wrote:
Seriously, half the people here don't even bother any more
It's probably a conditioned response to other rude drives who close up the gap when you signal your intention to switch lanes.
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Jamie Nordmeyer wrote:
Seriously, half the people here don't even bother any more
It's probably a conditioned response to other rude drives who close up the gap when you signal your intention to switch lanes.
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Possibly. I know that people definitely tend to speed up when you want to get over, rather than be 3 seconds later getting to their destination.
Kyosa Jamie Nordmeyer - Taekwondo Yi (2nd) Dan Portland, Oregon, USA
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I find that remarkable and somewhat cheering, who did you call. I tried to report a flatbed truck driver for crashing into a stationary bus while driving like an insane chimp on a main road in London a few years ago and was told I was not allowed to report it as I was not a victim of the incident, despite the fact that he had come close enough to me for me to feel it, doing at least 60, and I was on a bicycle. The bus drive had personally requested that I report the incident because his employer would sack him if he got off his bus during his shift or used his radio to try and report it. :wtf: Similar happened when I tried to report an empty car parked illegally right under a major motorway bridge, not burned out and abandonned but neatly parked, end on to the road, not as if it had just pulled up, undamaged and conveniently out of sight to almost anyone who didn't happen to be passing slowly or on foot. The idea that this might just pose a terrorist threat totally confused the idiots at Crime Stoppers who seemed unable to concieve how that could be. :doh:
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You'll find the Motorway police act on any unlawful and dangerous driving, like the time I saw an asian 14 year old driving on the motorway and quite erratic, luckily he pulled off at our local services and the GMP traffic unit are based there. When he pulled up I parked near him and ran over to the GMP offices and got an officer to apprehend him. Apparently he and his 'father' had the same name and he trying use his father license as his own.
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If someone's trying to pass me and there's no one around for 1/2 a mile, well, I'm much more likely to slow down than move over for them.
Probably why the motorways are as bad as they are. The idea of having lanes is use them for overtaking and not for sighting seeing. Also for reference the safest lane is the nearside lane as you have the hardshoulder to use if you have to avoid a collision - any traffic cop will tell you that.
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You obviously have more faith left in humanity than I do. My theory is that people are mostly inconsiderate monkeys who are only concerned with their own little world. Even when their own little world is barreling down the road at 60mph. Not everybody of course, but it seems ever increasing. But you're probably right that most drivers just aren't familiar enough with bikes to know how to interact with them.
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BoneSoft wrote:
My theory is that people are mostly inconsiderate monkeys who are only concerned with their own little world.
Agreed! And we are people, too :)
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BoneSoft wrote:
My theory is that people are mostly inconsiderate monkeys who are only concerned with their own little world.
Agreed! And we are people, too :)
- You French fight for money, while we British fight for honour - A man fights for what he lacks the most!
Yes we are. We all have to actually commit some effort and conscious thought to being considerate of others. 5 by the way, partly to counter the idiot that thought that needed a 1. ;)
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Yes we are. We all have to actually commit some effort and conscious thought to being considerate of others. 5 by the way, partly to counter the idiot that thought that needed a 1. ;)
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I've got a stalker, it's the beginning of celebrity :-D
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I think we all have our fans.
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