MP3 editing tool?

Lost User

Does anyone know of a decent MP3 editing tool that I can use to trim/fade-out songs? I have a copy of Nero which comes with an MP3 wave editor, but it seems to have a problem saving back some MP3s, so I need something different... I have recently downloaded some new Radiohead songs, which, considering they were probably recorded by a member of the audience, are of excellent quality (from the recent Salamanca gig). Many of the MP3s could do with the ends being trimmed, etc. (so I can burn myself a decent CD :) ). Of course, whether this is legal or not isn't something I want to get into... :-D

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James Spibey

I'd recommend SoundForge by Sonic Foundry if you can afford it. It has native support for MP3 and can do all sorts of other stuff. Alternatively, you could use something like Winamp3 which can cut off the silence at the beginning and end of your tracks Cheers James

Lost User

James Spibey wrote: Alternatively, you could use something like Winamp3 which can cut off the silence at the beginning and end of your tracks I need to cut crowd noise which will probably have to be done by hand... :(

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Ragavendran Vaidhyanadhan

I went into the google and searched and found a pile of them. You want to see... ? http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=mp3+editing+tool Ragavendran Vaidhyanadhan

Lost User

There are so many I thought I'd see which ones my fellow CPians recommend...;)

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Simon Walton

Goldwave can import mp3's (I think) and can also encode the waveforms back to mp3 at the end. I think it comes with the encoder.

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Paul Watson

James Spibey wrote: if you can afford it LOL, the guy downloads bootleg stadium copies of commercial music. I don't think pirating software is much of a step up. MP3 pirating is a gateway activity to more dangerous crimes :rolleyes: Visual Basic is a gateway activity to more dangerous crimes, like Java or forgetting to garbage collect in C++ :laugh: * I could go on, but then I might come across as a Sad Individual regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa Simon Walton wrote: "You come across a lot of people who call themselves realists, when they are actually pessimists attempting to look intelligent."

Lost User

Paul Watson wrote: LOL, the guy downloads bootleg stadium copies of commercial music. I don't think pirating software is much of a step up. :laugh::laugh::laugh: Actually, pirating software IS out of the question as far as I am concerned :). And as Radiohead themselves have a very relaxed attitude to people downloading live MP3s, I don't feel in the least bit guilty ;P. Of course, their record company may take a dim view of such a practise, but no-one is losing out in this case. I will certainly be buying the new album in March, and hearing live versions of new material so far in advance is an excellent incentive...

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Paul Watson

Robert Edward Caldecott wrote: Actually, pirating software IS out of the question as far as I am concerned So pirating music is fine but pirating software isn't? Just curious as to why you think this... :) Robert Edward Caldecott wrote: I will certainly be buying the new album in March, and hearing live versions of new material so far in advance is an excellent incentive... Well this is the case most of us make because it is quite often true. On hearing a great MP3 I note it down and try to find a legal CD with it on. But the RIAA is a bit dim and don't realise this. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa Simon Walton wrote: "You come across a lot of people who call themselves realists, when they are actually pessimists attempting to look intelligent."

Michael P Butler

Paul Watson wrote: ForumThe Lounge Subject:Re: MP3 editing tool? Sender:Paul Watson Date:9:19 29 Aug '02 Robert Edward Caldecott wrote: Actually, pirating software IS out of the question as far as I am concerned So pirating music is fine but pirating software isn't? Just curious as to why you think this... Probably because he makes his living from software and not music. It's not easy to rip off your peers, but musicians - they get sex, drugs and rock'n'roll so aren't doing too bad :-D Michael :-) Programming is great. First they pay you to introduce bugs into software. Then they pay you to remove them again.

Lost User

Paul Watson wrote: So pirating music is fine but pirating software isn't? Errr .. I am not actually pirating music. I am downloading live songs of average quality from the Net that are not commercially available and am burning a CD for my own use. I don't see a problem with this. As I also explained, the band in question have no problems with their fans doing this, which is, quite frankly, all that matters. Paul Watson wrote: On hearing a great MP3 I note it down and try to find a legal CD with it on Me too. Still, I know plenty of people that swap the odd CD or two - naughty pirates - and it's no different to the home taping I used to do in the 80s ("Home taping is killing music" we were told. ha ha. Right). OK, things are different with cheap CD burners as the quality is so good, but I would still prefer to buy the original.

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Paul Watson

Michael P Butler wrote: Probably because he makes his living from software and not music. Uhuh, the response I expected. One I support because I feel it too, even though it is totally illogical. Michael P Butler wrote: but musicians - they get sex, drugs and rock'n'roll so aren't doing too bad Yeah but what does the richest (might be second now, not sure) man in the world do? Not music thats for sure... :rolleyes: And hey, I can get sex, drugs and rock'n'roll if I want. Just maybe no groupies (I wonder if that Napster guy ever had groupies?) regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa Simon Walton wrote: "You come across a lot of people who call themselves realists, when they are actually pessimists attempting to look intelligent."

Paul Watson

Robert Edward Caldecott wrote: As I also explained, the band in question have no problems with their fans doing this, which is, quite frankly, all that matters. LOL sorry Robert, I was not meaning to get you revved up... ok I was, but I just wanted to see what people think about pirating music as opposed to pirating software. I for one pirate music, but try my best not to pirate software. Only because I am in the software industry, not the music industry. Not very logical, but that is how it is. No harm meant :) Robert Edward Caldecott wrote: the original Mmmmmn, that nice fresh proper smell of an original. Yeah baby. Plus you get the proper casing and CD label, non of that dodgy felt tip pen scribbled label stuff :) regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa Simon Walton wrote: "You come across a lot of people who call themselves realists, when they are actually pessimists attempting to look intelligent."

Lost User

:) It's tricky. Basically, I think pirating music is by definition a naughty thing to do, but in practise, I don't think it does much harm. Obviously for struggling indie bands it could mean the difference between having a career and having to go back to working in McDonalds, but for the likes of Eminem, Mettalica, et al - well, they won't have to start selling any of their mansions real soon. However, record companies are using it as the perfect reason to shut down less profitiable areas of their business, which means even relatively successful bands can end up without a deal, or with such a crap deal that they may as well go back to working in McDonalds. :) (for example, the UK band Pulp will be without a deal from October - lunacy!). A good friend of mine who is an excellent singer was in a fantastic UK indie band back in 2000 - by all rights they should have had A&R men BEGGING them to sign a contract, but, at that time UK indie music was out of fashion and they couldn't even get arrested (even though the band included both an ex-Shed Seven and an ex-Seahorses member!). Now, thanks to Coldplay, etc. indie bands are on the rise again, so had he of joined the band in 2002, things could of been very different. The main excuse used by record companies for cutting back on new signings was the evil Napster and clones. Mmmmmmm. Obviously, situations like EMI paying Mariah Carey $30 million dollars TO LEAVE - and then sacking hundreds of people - has more to do with ignorant record execs than 15 year old kids downloading the latest hip-hop CD. I am religious about pirate software, simply because, like yourself, I am in the industry. I can hold my head high and honestly say that I have no illegal software installed on my PC. I even paid $20 for an MP3 encoder for XPs WMP8 :) I also have paid for Nero, MS Money, etc. If I WASN'T in the software business however, I KNOW I would rip off whatever I could. However, I'm not so sure that being in a band/working for a record company would make me any less likely to download Radioheads new songs the day after they'd been aired for the first time live... :)

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Alvaro Mendez

This is the one I use: MP3trim[^] It's nice; you may use it to trim an entire folder of songs with a single drag-n-drop. Regards, Alvaro Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. - Albert Einstein

Christopher Duncan

The difference between programmers and musicians is that even incredibly bad programmers still make a pretty decent living, while the overwhelming majority of even the most excellent musicians struggle to afford boxed macaroni and cheese. And yet, in the "it's okay to steal from this person, but not that person" perspective, the one it's okay to rip off is the one who has to struggle the hardest. Curious ethics. And of course, speaking of ethics, the justification that always gets trotted out anytime people are trying to defend enjoying a musician's intellectual property without compensation is the old, "but gee, the record companies are evil, so they deserve to be screwed" bit. The inconvenient thing about honor is that it is immune to justifications. When you enjoy a musician's work but don't want to pay him for it, you're screwing the musician, simply put. The fact that the record company is also screwing the musician doesn't make it right. In fact, if you care about music, one would think that you'd want to pay even moreso, knowing that the musician is already getting chiseled out of most of his money by record companies, agents, managers, etc. Ah, but musicians love what they do, so it shouldn't matter, right? No problem. Perhaps we could suggest to your boss that since you love coding, there's really no reason to pay you money. Can't imagine you'd stick around at a job for very long under those terms, and yet it's okay for musicians? Very curious ethics, indeed... And of course, now my standard disclaimer to further taint my little dissertion. I've worked full time as a musician, and am therefore a bit more opinionated on the subject. I guess you'd just have to be there to understand. :-D Honor is the habit of doing what's right even when no one is looking. Chistopher Duncan Author - The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World (Apress)

Christopher Duncan

I have a pretty high tech recording studio and use several pieces of software. Probably the best I could recommend for this purpose would be Cool Edit Pro. It's great quality stuff, and my primary choice for editing even though I also have Pro Tools and Cakewalk. They even have an on the cheap version (Cool Edit 2000) that might do the job for you. Chistopher Duncan Author - The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World (Apress)

Lost User

Mmmm. Cool Edit rings a bell. I'll check it out. Cheers.

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