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    dunno if this has been posted but http://slashdot.org/articles/02/08/27/1626241.shtml?tid=155 Bryce

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      dunno if this has been posted but http://slashdot.org/articles/02/08/27/1626241.shtml?tid=155 Bryce

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      http://slashdot.org/articles/02/08/27/1626241.shtml?tid=155

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        dunno if this has been posted but http://slashdot.org/articles/02/08/27/1626241.shtml?tid=155 Bryce

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        Completely off topic, but did you get my SMS about the C++ job yesterday? Michael Martin Australia mjm68@tpg.com.au "I personally love it because I can get as down and dirty as I want on the backend, while also being able to dabble with fun scripting and presentation games on the front end." - Chris Maunder 15/07/2002

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          http://slashdot.org/articles/02/08/27/1626241.shtml?tid=155

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          http://slashdot.org/articles/02/08/27/1626241.shtml?tid=155[^] ;) regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa Simon Walton wrote: "You come across a lot of people who call themselves realists, when they are actually pessimists attempting to look intelligent."

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            http://slashdot.org/articles/02/08/27/1626241.shtml?tid=155[^] ;) regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa Simon Walton wrote: "You come across a lot of people who call themselves realists, when they are actually pessimists attempting to look intelligent."

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            Why would anybody in their right mind want to leave CP to visit slashdot? :P

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              dunno if this has been posted but http://slashdot.org/articles/02/08/27/1626241.shtml?tid=155 Bryce

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              bryce wrote: New MP3 License Terms Demand $0.75 Per Decoder Great, more enforcement to do. They can't stop pirating as it is and now they want to start policing the guys who make MP3 such a sucess? I understand they want to make money from their investment and hard work, but still. Changing tune* midway is rather underhanded if you ask me. It is like they woke up one day and realised "hey, sheeet, this MP3 thing we own is quite popular, lets start charging now that people are locked into it." * That was a bad one wasn't it? regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa Simon Walton wrote: "You come across a lot of people who call themselves realists, when they are actually pessimists attempting to look intelligent."

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                Why would anybody in their right mind want to leave CP to visit slashdot? :P

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                Simon Walton wrote: Why would anybody in their right mind want to leave CP to visit slashdot? Chris painstakingly offered the link[^] option, not so that it looked pretty but to shut us link-nazis up. So use it... :rolleyes: * I just replied so I could write "No you didn't" in the subject line :-D. Yes I did. No you didn't. Yes I did... regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa Simon Walton wrote: "You come across a lot of people who call themselves realists, when they are actually pessimists attempting to look intelligent."

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                  dunno if this has been posted but http://slashdot.org/articles/02/08/27/1626241.shtml?tid=155 Bryce

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                  Now who does this remind me of - oh yes UNISYS and the GIF patent. :mad: When will we learn! We, the consumers, make something popular and someone else racks in the cash. I feel that if you give something away for free then you can't just turn round and say - "hi, do you like our idea that we have let you all use for free, well guess what give us some money or else." If they are intending to charge they should say so from the beginning and then we'll see just how popular it becomes.

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                    Simon Walton wrote: Why would anybody in their right mind want to leave CP to visit slashdot? Chris painstakingly offered the link[^] option, not so that it looked pretty but to shut us link-nazis up. So use it... :rolleyes: * I just replied so I could write "No you didn't" in the subject line :-D. Yes I did. No you didn't. Yes I did... regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa Simon Walton wrote: "You come across a lot of people who call themselves realists, when they are actually pessimists attempting to look intelligent."

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                    Paul Watson wrote: Yes I did. No you didn't. Yes I did... I thought I'd follow on the theatre-esque trend. :D

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                      Now who does this remind me of - oh yes UNISYS and the GIF patent. :mad: When will we learn! We, the consumers, make something popular and someone else racks in the cash. I feel that if you give something away for free then you can't just turn round and say - "hi, do you like our idea that we have let you all use for free, well guess what give us some money or else." If they are intending to charge they should say so from the beginning and then we'll see just how popular it becomes.

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                      Shaun Wilde wrote: "hi, do you like our idea that we have let you all use for free, well guess what give us some money or else." Drug-dealer tactics. X| /Magnus


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                        bryce wrote: New MP3 License Terms Demand $0.75 Per Decoder Great, more enforcement to do. They can't stop pirating as it is and now they want to start policing the guys who make MP3 such a sucess? I understand they want to make money from their investment and hard work, but still. Changing tune* midway is rather underhanded if you ask me. It is like they woke up one day and realised "hey, sheeet, this MP3 thing we own is quite popular, lets start charging now that people are locked into it." * That was a bad one wasn't it? regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa Simon Walton wrote: "You come across a lot of people who call themselves realists, when they are actually pessimists attempting to look intelligent."

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                        CNN reported this week that CD sales in the US are down 2% - all music sales are down 10%. The recording industry is blaming it all freely available downloads eroding the market and making much noise about the need for stronger controls. Has anyone in that industry noticed that we're in a strong recession right now? Almost everyine I know has been laid off, or had their hours reduced at work, and are struggling to keep the rent paid - not buying CDs is one of the ways they stay afloat! These people don't own computers, they're not downloading music; they're starving, and cutting out luxuries is the first step toward survival. I maintain that MP3 distributions on the web stimulate sales of CDs, as those few I know that partake of free music do so to sample, then they buy the CDs they liked for the convenience. These morons are going to kill their own business by trying to charge for an enabling technology! This Signature is Temporarily Out of Order

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                          dunno if this has been posted but http://slashdot.org/articles/02/08/27/1626241.shtml?tid=155 Bryce

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                          I use Vorbis Ogg (CDex is great). Viva open source :-D Elaine (dancing fluffy tigress) Would you like to meet my teddy bear ?

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                            dunno if this has been posted but http://slashdot.org/articles/02/08/27/1626241.shtml?tid=155 Bryce

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                            Will this kill free Winamp?!? How do you think Microsoft will respond with their Media Player? Would this drive them to drop MP3 and more strongly push their WMA format?:((

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                              CNN reported this week that CD sales in the US are down 2% - all music sales are down 10%. The recording industry is blaming it all freely available downloads eroding the market and making much noise about the need for stronger controls. Has anyone in that industry noticed that we're in a strong recession right now? Almost everyine I know has been laid off, or had their hours reduced at work, and are struggling to keep the rent paid - not buying CDs is one of the ways they stay afloat! These people don't own computers, they're not downloading music; they're starving, and cutting out luxuries is the first step toward survival. I maintain that MP3 distributions on the web stimulate sales of CDs, as those few I know that partake of free music do so to sample, then they buy the CDs they liked for the convenience. These morons are going to kill their own business by trying to charge for an enabling technology! This Signature is Temporarily Out of Order

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                              i've read a few articles that have tracked record sales through various economic downturns and.... there's almost no correlation - people buy records at the same rate, regardless of the economy. no conclusion, just what i've read. -c


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                                I use Vorbis Ogg (CDex is great). Viva open source :-D Elaine (dancing fluffy tigress) Would you like to meet my teddy bear ?

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                                I've been thinking about switching to Ogg for a while now... in your opinion, what are the trade-offs (or are there any)?

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                                  Now who does this remind me of - oh yes UNISYS and the GIF patent. :mad: When will we learn! We, the consumers, make something popular and someone else racks in the cash. I feel that if you give something away for free then you can't just turn round and say - "hi, do you like our idea that we have let you all use for free, well guess what give us some money or else." If they are intending to charge they should say so from the beginning and then we'll see just how popular it becomes.

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                                  Shaun Wilde wrote: When will we learn! We never will. We'll always angrily insist that we have the 'right' to use something that we want to use, just because we want it. Shaun Wilde wrote: We, the consumers, make something popular and someone else racks in the cash. Consumers are people who actually buy things. What was the last MP3 you bought? And isn't 'racking in the cash' the producers' reward for creating something that people actually like? Shaun Wilde wrote: I feel that if you give something away for free then you can't just turn round and say - "hi, do you like our idea that we have let you all use for free, well guess what give us some money or else." If a company is releasing something under the guise of being free, all the while intending to charge for it once it catches on, then I agree with you that it's underhanded. However, that is certainly not the only possible scenario. A company could also start giving away something for free as a side-show thing (like yahoo's email stuff) in the hopes of attracting new customers. Then when things start getting tight, the company starts scrambling for new revenue streams to keep up the money they're spending on their 'free' services. What new revenue streams are sighted? Well obviously, it's the heavily used 'free' services. A company could also be so horribly naive that it spends lots and lots of its time and money developing a very useful, attractive, marketable product like MP3 and then gives it away for free, and then ends up in the scenario above. In the end, it will always boil down to the fact that there never has been, is not currently, nor will there ever be a free lunch. I think that is a good thing. -- Russell Morris "Have you gone mad Frink? Put down that science pole!"

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                                    i've read a few articles that have tracked record sales through various economic downturns and.... there's almost no correlation - people buy records at the same rate, regardless of the economy. no conclusion, just what i've read. -c


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                                    I haven't seen any of those articles, but I have seen what people around me are doing to compensate for their lost income and have to believe that they're more typical than not. A 2% loss is certainly nothing to whine about when people and businesses are dealing with 20 to 40% losses in income. This Signature is Temporarily Out of Order

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                                      I've been thinking about switching to Ogg for a while now... in your opinion, what are the trade-offs (or are there any)?

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                                      If only they'd change the name it might catch on, but it's not got a chance until they do.

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                                        I haven't seen any of those articles, but I have seen what people around me are doing to compensate for their lost income and have to believe that they're more typical than not. A 2% loss is certainly nothing to whine about when people and businesses are dealing with 20 to 40% losses in income. This Signature is Temporarily Out of Order

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                                        i'd love a 40% drop, instead of my 80% drop. but, i'm still buying CDs. -c


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                                          If only they'd change the name it might catch on, but it's not got a chance until they do.

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                                          Why? Too weird? Too long? Too not-mp4?

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