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  • C Chris Maunder

    The problems here is in defining what counts as a 'Language', and how proficient must we be to say we 'know' it? Should be use the standard resume definition ("I've written HelloWorld therefore I know it") or the practical definition ("I have written useful apps and understand the principles/syntax/whatever behind the language"). The other point is that certain libraries (Eg ATL, MFC, Motif, X-Window) can often be considered a language unto themselves (or maybe the term 'dialect' is more appropriate). Maybe I'm just feeling guilty and am trying desperately to make my language-count as high as possible :P So does VBScript count as a language :-O cheers, Chris Maunder

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    ooo ooo i know how to write batch files too ;) --- "every year we invent better idiot proof systems and every year they invent better idiots"

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    • B Ben Burnett

      I'm currious as to how many languages an 'average' programer knows. I myself know 10, but code regularly in only about 4 of them. PS: Does VB count? the consensus here seems to state otherwize, but if it does it would take my language count up to 11 ;) Have a good one, -Ben "Its funny when you stop doing things not because they’re wrong, but because you might get caught." - Unknown

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      Lost User
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      Master of none... as the saying goes and its true. VC++, who can do VB and perl and etc. etc. are no masters Stick to VC++

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      • B Ben Burnett

        > Well Ben, I sure hope you don't count HTML... Why do you say that? Personaly, I think HTML is a proggramming language, it fits the definition just as much as C++ does. > NOTE: In my own opinion, I think the fewer languages a prorammer knows, the better he/she is at those > languages. What I'm saying is if someone only knows one language, he is better at it than Ben here, who > knows 11. I see what your tring to get at, but I can hardly aggree with you on it. Just because a person only knows, say C++, does not make him/her better at it than someone who knows that language and a handfull more. Most of the languages I know, I learnt out of pure nesesity... used them once and haven't had a need for them since. > Yes, I did just admit that VB is a language :(( Watch out, CP's VB police might come and take you away... you might never to see a compiler again ;P Have a good one, -Ben "Its funny when you stop doing things not because they’re wrong, but because you might get caught." - Unknown

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        Erik Funkenbusch
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        Actually, HTML doesn't exhibit any of the characteristics of a programming language. There are no logic constructs in HTML, such as "if", "for", "while". Thus, there is no decision making capability. You need to use something like JavaScript or VBS (which are programming languages) to achieve this.

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        • B Ben Burnett

          I'm currious as to how many languages an 'average' programer knows. I myself know 10, but code regularly in only about 4 of them. PS: Does VB count? the consensus here seems to state otherwize, but if it does it would take my language count up to 11 ;) Have a good one, -Ben "Its funny when you stop doing things not because they’re wrong, but because you might get caught." - Unknown

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          Erik Funkenbusch
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          Good question. It's been a while since I counted. 1) ANSI C 2) C++ 3) K&R C (it really is almost it's own unique language) 4) Pascal 5) Modula II 6) Modula III 7) Oberon 8) x86 Assembly 9) 6502 Assembly 10) 68000 Assembly 11) Basic Assembly Language (BAL) (Used on IBM Mainframes) 12) COBOL 13) RPG 14) RPGII 15) RPGIII 16) Java 17) JavaScript 18) VB 19) VBScript 20) Lisp 21) SmallTalk 22) BASIC (non-VB, yes, its quite different) 23) E (an interesting language developed on the Amiga many years ago) 24) Tcl/Tk 25) Perl 26) SQL I guess that's all I can think of. There's probably more. Some might well be considered the same language, (such as RPGII/III, or VB/BASIC) but I basically listed them where there were significant differences between the dialects.

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            Take the Linux bigotry elsewhere, fruitcake.

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            dark120
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            You also wouldn't be smart enough to improve linux, or make programs, or anything becuase you would be focusing all of that energy to screwing your mom. This message was posted by the weakest little programmer that ever walked the earth...

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            • B Ben Burnett

              I'm currious as to how many languages an 'average' programer knows. I myself know 10, but code regularly in only about 4 of them. PS: Does VB count? the consensus here seems to state otherwize, but if it does it would take my language count up to 11 ;) Have a good one, -Ben "Its funny when you stop doing things not because they’re wrong, but because you might get caught." - Unknown

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              Tim Smith
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              Well, my ego list is; C++, C, Basic, Forth, Assembler (at least 6 processors), Java, Perl, and maybe one or two more. Now my reality list is C++, C, and a bit of assembler. All those other languages I would have to brush up on before I could do anything real with them. Many years ago when looking for a new programmer, we got a funny resume. It listed which programming languages he used and how long he had used each. After totalling it up, he was well over 100 years old. Tim Smith Descartes Systems Sciences, Inc.

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                Good question. It's been a while since I counted. 1) ANSI C 2) C++ 3) K&R C (it really is almost it's own unique language) 4) Pascal 5) Modula II 6) Modula III 7) Oberon 8) x86 Assembly 9) 6502 Assembly 10) 68000 Assembly 11) Basic Assembly Language (BAL) (Used on IBM Mainframes) 12) COBOL 13) RPG 14) RPGII 15) RPGIII 16) Java 17) JavaScript 18) VB 19) VBScript 20) Lisp 21) SmallTalk 22) BASIC (non-VB, yes, its quite different) 23) E (an interesting language developed on the Amiga many years ago) 24) Tcl/Tk 25) Perl 26) SQL I guess that's all I can think of. There's probably more. Some might well be considered the same language, (such as RPGII/III, or VB/BASIC) but I basically listed them where there were significant differences between the dialects.

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                And you call yourself a programmer!!!!!!

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                • B Ben Burnett

                  I'm currious as to how many languages an 'average' programer knows. I myself know 10, but code regularly in only about 4 of them. PS: Does VB count? the consensus here seems to state otherwize, but if it does it would take my language count up to 11 ;) Have a good one, -Ben "Its funny when you stop doing things not because they’re wrong, but because you might get caught." - Unknown

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                  By "Know" do you mean "professionally competent"?

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                  • B Ben Burnett

                    I'm currious as to how many languages an 'average' programer knows. I myself know 10, but code regularly in only about 4 of them. PS: Does VB count? the consensus here seems to state otherwize, but if it does it would take my language count up to 11 ;) Have a good one, -Ben "Its funny when you stop doing things not because they’re wrong, but because you might get caught." - Unknown

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                    Object Pascal C++ VB BrainF*ck What exactly *is* VB if it's not a language?

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                    • L l a u r e n

                      ooo ooo i know how to write batch files too ;) --- "every year we invent better idiot proof systems and every year they invent better idiots"

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                      Chris Maunder
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                      That's right! - I almost forgot about batch scripts, shell scripts, csh, ksh, sh,...:) cheers, Chris Maunder

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                      • B Ben Burnett

                        I'm currious as to how many languages an 'average' programer knows. I myself know 10, but code regularly in only about 4 of them. PS: Does VB count? the consensus here seems to state otherwize, but if it does it would take my language count up to 11 ;) Have a good one, -Ben "Its funny when you stop doing things not because they’re wrong, but because you might get caught." - Unknown

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                        Nanoprobe
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                        Myself, I am knowledgable in Perl, C/C++, VB, VBScript, JavaScript, BASIC, PHP, assembly (haven't coded this yet :)), Independence War script (proprietary game language), even some TI calculator programming. And there's a few others that I can't remember right now. ;) I don't know all of these languages to the fullest, but I know enough to get by. I started in BASIC, then went to VB later on, because I couldn't wrap my head around the books I had for Turbo C (hey, I was only like 10 at the time :)). Recently I've done craploads of programming in Perl (for my webpage backend) and C++ (one program on my webpage - NanoScripter, an editor for the Independence War script), and they're the ones I'm most fluent in. However, I'm only 16, so I imagine I've still got a fair way to go before I can get my doctorate in multiple programming languages. ;) - Nanoprobe [nanoprobe@thekeyboard.com] Visit Colliderring.com - [http://colliderring.net-games.com/\]

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                          Myself, I am knowledgable in Perl, C/C++, VB, VBScript, JavaScript, BASIC, PHP, assembly (haven't coded this yet :)), Independence War script (proprietary game language), even some TI calculator programming. And there's a few others that I can't remember right now. ;) I don't know all of these languages to the fullest, but I know enough to get by. I started in BASIC, then went to VB later on, because I couldn't wrap my head around the books I had for Turbo C (hey, I was only like 10 at the time :)). Recently I've done craploads of programming in Perl (for my webpage backend) and C++ (one program on my webpage - NanoScripter, an editor for the Independence War script), and they're the ones I'm most fluent in. However, I'm only 16, so I imagine I've still got a fair way to go before I can get my doctorate in multiple programming languages. ;) - Nanoprobe [nanoprobe@thekeyboard.com] Visit Colliderring.com - [http://colliderring.net-games.com/\]

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                          Geez, you poor kid! Get a life, would you?

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                          • L Lost User

                            And you call yourself a programmer!!!!!!

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                            + Simula and Algol :)

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                            • B Ben Burnett

                              I'm currious as to how many languages an 'average' programer knows. I myself know 10, but code regularly in only about 4 of them. PS: Does VB count? the consensus here seems to state otherwize, but if it does it would take my language count up to 11 ;) Have a good one, -Ben "Its funny when you stop doing things not because they’re wrong, but because you might get caught." - Unknown

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                              I think a more important question is how many styles of language you know. Learning a syntax isn't particularly difficult, learning a new style is. (ie. procedural, object-orientated, generic, logic, etc...) I mean shite, who cares if you know 151 different flavours of assembly? (or really in the new .net world - VB.net and C# and C++ with extensions [or whatever it's called] are really all the same thing...) Have fun, Paul Westcott.

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                                + Simula and Algol :)

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                                Lost User
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                                DOH, I forgot fortran on my list. How could I forget. Heh, does Lex and Yacc count. BWAHAHAHA

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                                  And you call yourself a programmer!!!!!!

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                                  Erik Funkenbusch
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                                  Actually, i've looked at Ada (from my DOD days), but never really developed anything in it, so I don't consider that I *know* it. Passing acquaintance would be more like it :)

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                                  • T Tim Smith

                                    Well, my ego list is; C++, C, Basic, Forth, Assembler (at least 6 processors), Java, Perl, and maybe one or two more. Now my reality list is C++, C, and a bit of assembler. All those other languages I would have to brush up on before I could do anything real with them. Many years ago when looking for a new programmer, we got a funny resume. It listed which programming languages he used and how long he had used each. After totalling it up, he was well over 100 years old. Tim Smith Descartes Systems Sciences, Inc.

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                                    Erik Funkenbusch
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                                    Hmm.. for being a programmer, you don't seem to have the concept of multi-tasking down very well ;) Someone can program in multiple langauges concurrently.

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                                    • B Ben Burnett

                                      I'm currious as to how many languages an 'average' programer knows. I myself know 10, but code regularly in only about 4 of them. PS: Does VB count? the consensus here seems to state otherwize, but if it does it would take my language count up to 11 ;) Have a good one, -Ben "Its funny when you stop doing things not because they’re wrong, but because you might get caught." - Unknown

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                                      Actually I am really impressed with all the stuff so many of you claim to "know". I've been programming in C++ and Windows for 12 years, Visual C++ and MFC since it first came out and I am constantly running into stuff I didn't "know". So I don't even think, therefore, that I can claim to know even one language. But I sure am a highly paid dumb ass.

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                                      • E Erik Funkenbusch

                                        Hmm.. for being a programmer, you don't seem to have the concept of multi-tasking down very well ;) Someone can program in multiple langauges concurrently.

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                                        Sorry, unless he got the multiprocessor upgrade from God, Inc., he was timeslicing. =)

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                                        • E Erik Funkenbusch

                                          Good question. It's been a while since I counted. 1) ANSI C 2) C++ 3) K&R C (it really is almost it's own unique language) 4) Pascal 5) Modula II 6) Modula III 7) Oberon 8) x86 Assembly 9) 6502 Assembly 10) 68000 Assembly 11) Basic Assembly Language (BAL) (Used on IBM Mainframes) 12) COBOL 13) RPG 14) RPGII 15) RPGIII 16) Java 17) JavaScript 18) VB 19) VBScript 20) Lisp 21) SmallTalk 22) BASIC (non-VB, yes, its quite different) 23) E (an interesting language developed on the Amiga many years ago) 24) Tcl/Tk 25) Perl 26) SQL I guess that's all I can think of. There's probably more. Some might well be considered the same language, (such as RPGII/III, or VB/BASIC) but I basically listed them where there were significant differences between the dialects.

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                                          Chris Maunder
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                                          woo - nice one Erik (apart from the lack of FORTRAN - shame!) Would it be worthwhile to have a list of languages you know in our profiles? Just a thought... cheers, Chris Maunder

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