Independant Consultants Hourly Rates
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I was just reading through the thread from the guy looking to know where independent consultants looked for work so he could refer his customers there for a small piece of programming work that frequently comes up with the APP he's selling. I'm an independent consultant and I've been going completely on word of mouth, but thought I'd at least take a look through some of the sites that were suggested. I was shocked at the rates that some of the consultants were quoting. On ODesk.com I saw a few projects where the average rate was <$15. Since I'm generally charging >$80/hr it made me think. So, what is everyone else charging? Are these sites skewing the rates to the low end? Or am just off the top end and lucky to have any work coming in?
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I was just reading through the thread from the guy looking to know where independent consultants looked for work so he could refer his customers there for a small piece of programming work that frequently comes up with the APP he's selling. I'm an independent consultant and I've been going completely on word of mouth, but thought I'd at least take a look through some of the sites that were suggested. I was shocked at the rates that some of the consultants were quoting. On ODesk.com I saw a few projects where the average rate was <$15. Since I'm generally charging >$80/hr it made me think. So, what is everyone else charging? Are these sites skewing the rates to the low end? Or am just off the top end and lucky to have any work coming in?
I would charge $100 to $150 USA.
John
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I was just reading through the thread from the guy looking to know where independent consultants looked for work so he could refer his customers there for a small piece of programming work that frequently comes up with the APP he's selling. I'm an independent consultant and I've been going completely on word of mouth, but thought I'd at least take a look through some of the sites that were suggested. I was shocked at the rates that some of the consultants were quoting. On ODesk.com I saw a few projects where the average rate was <$15. Since I'm generally charging >$80/hr it made me think. So, what is everyone else charging? Are these sites skewing the rates to the low end? Or am just off the top end and lucky to have any work coming in?
You get what you pay for. As I'm looking for work again, I looked at those sites too, and they don't appeal to me.
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I was just reading through the thread from the guy looking to know where independent consultants looked for work so he could refer his customers there for a small piece of programming work that frequently comes up with the APP he's selling. I'm an independent consultant and I've been going completely on word of mouth, but thought I'd at least take a look through some of the sites that were suggested. I was shocked at the rates that some of the consultants were quoting. On ODesk.com I saw a few projects where the average rate was <$15. Since I'm generally charging >$80/hr it made me think. So, what is everyone else charging? Are these sites skewing the rates to the low end? Or am just off the top end and lucky to have any work coming in?
It depends on what country they're in. :)
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I was just reading through the thread from the guy looking to know where independent consultants looked for work so he could refer his customers there for a small piece of programming work that frequently comes up with the APP he's selling. I'm an independent consultant and I've been going completely on word of mouth, but thought I'd at least take a look through some of the sites that were suggested. I was shocked at the rates that some of the consultants were quoting. On ODesk.com I saw a few projects where the average rate was <$15. Since I'm generally charging >$80/hr it made me think. So, what is everyone else charging? Are these sites skewing the rates to the low end? Or am just off the top end and lucky to have any work coming in?
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Our consultant charges $180/hr. It has something to do with a specilized software.
TOMZ_KV
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I was just reading through the thread from the guy looking to know where independent consultants looked for work so he could refer his customers there for a small piece of programming work that frequently comes up with the APP he's selling. I'm an independent consultant and I've been going completely on word of mouth, but thought I'd at least take a look through some of the sites that were suggested. I was shocked at the rates that some of the consultants were quoting. On ODesk.com I saw a few projects where the average rate was <$15. Since I'm generally charging >$80/hr it made me think. So, what is everyone else charging? Are these sites skewing the rates to the low end? Or am just off the top end and lucky to have any work coming in?
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I was just reading through the thread from the guy looking to know where independent consultants looked for work so he could refer his customers there for a small piece of programming work that frequently comes up with the APP he's selling. I'm an independent consultant and I've been going completely on word of mouth, but thought I'd at least take a look through some of the sites that were suggested. I was shocked at the rates that some of the consultants were quoting. On ODesk.com I saw a few projects where the average rate was <$15. Since I'm generally charging >$80/hr it made me think. So, what is everyone else charging? Are these sites skewing the rates to the low end? Or am just off the top end and lucky to have any work coming in?
http://www.erlglobal.com/index.php?pageName=rate[^] Realistically, between $75 and $105USD is a good number. Unfortunately, you have to go direct or government to get it most of the times. Recruiting companies and fake consulting companies take a large cut. Some of them will charge greater than 100 an hour but then pay the listed H1-b required rate, only. When I am looking for work I talk to about 5 people a week that choke on the phone over my rate. Some even get aggressive and confrontational. To be honest if you compare my income after expenses vs. my rate people would be shocked at how the numbers really add up. The problem with those "sites" is two fold. One you can often be competing with inexperienced developers and college students who would be happy to have the extra 15 an hour on top of their allowance and scholarship money. Two you are competing with overseas persons with a lower cost of living. Usually the quality is about the same. The best names and most experienced seem to charge high rates but they are the ones that stay in this field because they can deliver. The rest usually wash up after a few massive failures or find some cushy job that doesn't rely on their competence.
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I was just reading through the thread from the guy looking to know where independent consultants looked for work so he could refer his customers there for a small piece of programming work that frequently comes up with the APP he's selling. I'm an independent consultant and I've been going completely on word of mouth, but thought I'd at least take a look through some of the sites that were suggested. I was shocked at the rates that some of the consultants were quoting. On ODesk.com I saw a few projects where the average rate was <$15. Since I'm generally charging >$80/hr it made me think. So, what is everyone else charging? Are these sites skewing the rates to the low end? Or am just off the top end and lucky to have any work coming in?
$87.00 in New Mexico, but most locals cannot afford me.
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That was me and I wouldn't recommend anyone to a developer charging anything less than USD$75 an hour.
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I was just reading through the thread from the guy looking to know where independent consultants looked for work so he could refer his customers there for a small piece of programming work that frequently comes up with the APP he's selling. I'm an independent consultant and I've been going completely on word of mouth, but thought I'd at least take a look through some of the sites that were suggested. I was shocked at the rates that some of the consultants were quoting. On ODesk.com I saw a few projects where the average rate was <$15. Since I'm generally charging >$80/hr it made me think. So, what is everyone else charging? Are these sites skewing the rates to the low end? Or am just off the top end and lucky to have any work coming in?
Around 100US$, depending on type of work and if short or long term.
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I was just reading through the thread from the guy looking to know where independent consultants looked for work so he could refer his customers there for a small piece of programming work that frequently comes up with the APP he's selling. I'm an independent consultant and I've been going completely on word of mouth, but thought I'd at least take a look through some of the sites that were suggested. I was shocked at the rates that some of the consultants were quoting. On ODesk.com I saw a few projects where the average rate was <$15. Since I'm generally charging >$80/hr it made me think. So, what is everyone else charging? Are these sites skewing the rates to the low end? Or am just off the top end and lucky to have any work coming in?
Guys - I don't know you, I have no understanding of job, or your experience,or your qualifications. But no one is worth more than $60 USD. I lie - if you are working only a few hours for a client you can charge whatever you think will get you by. But people working for extended periods at one site really need to re-value their contribution. I know in australia, and I expect world wide, projects are being outsourced off-shore to the lowest bidder. I can't help but think this is because people are over valueing their skills/experience. Good for you if you jag a $180 contract - but in the long term, it can't be good for the community as a whole.
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Well my answer would be "it depends", location is an important factor. I presume $80/hr is an standard amount for the US/UK, but here in Peru you are more than good with $20/hr.
Well, I think it depends on not just location but the SkillSet you have. I am person working on multi platform at-a-time since many times my project requires it. So Skill is prior and then location. I completely agree that you are charging which should be charged normally by an experience developer. Yea, many people breaking market and hence the job cutting / salary getting low.
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I was just reading through the thread from the guy looking to know where independent consultants looked for work so he could refer his customers there for a small piece of programming work that frequently comes up with the APP he's selling. I'm an independent consultant and I've been going completely on word of mouth, but thought I'd at least take a look through some of the sites that were suggested. I was shocked at the rates that some of the consultants were quoting. On ODesk.com I saw a few projects where the average rate was <$15. Since I'm generally charging >$80/hr it made me think. So, what is everyone else charging? Are these sites skewing the rates to the low end? Or am just off the top end and lucky to have any work coming in?
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I was just reading through the thread from the guy looking to know where independent consultants looked for work so he could refer his customers there for a small piece of programming work that frequently comes up with the APP he's selling. I'm an independent consultant and I've been going completely on word of mouth, but thought I'd at least take a look through some of the sites that were suggested. I was shocked at the rates that some of the consultants were quoting. On ODesk.com I saw a few projects where the average rate was <$15. Since I'm generally charging >$80/hr it made me think. So, what is everyone else charging? Are these sites skewing the rates to the low end? Or am just off the top end and lucky to have any work coming in?
My last 3 companies as an employee (in the UK) were charging between $110 and $140 an hour but for contract/freelance jobs between these I got around $45/ hour. $90 an hour was possible but that was for something like specialist banking experience with a current security check. I think that's history for a while though as there is such a surplus of ex-bank staff.
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I was just reading through the thread from the guy looking to know where independent consultants looked for work so he could refer his customers there for a small piece of programming work that frequently comes up with the APP he's selling. I'm an independent consultant and I've been going completely on word of mouth, but thought I'd at least take a look through some of the sites that were suggested. I was shocked at the rates that some of the consultants were quoting. On ODesk.com I saw a few projects where the average rate was <$15. Since I'm generally charging >$80/hr it made me think. So, what is everyone else charging? Are these sites skewing the rates to the low end? Or am just off the top end and lucky to have any work coming in?
In London the average for contractors: (given 7.5hrs in a day) (1.00 GBP = 1.49219 USD) Java/Serverside = £400/day = £53/hr = $79 C# slightly less Finance can go up to £500/650. Media (Web/RIA) 250/300/day Agency's add 20% on top. All of course if you have a job, 4000 lost their jobs in banks this week and now agencies pulling every dirty trick in the book to get references(fake jobs/ demanding references before offers etc.)
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Sounds about right for an independent consultant, at least around these parts. Through an agency, even after their skim $40-50 p/h would be normal (for an experienced dev). Although the market here has turned from redhot to soft in about a month.
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I was just reading through the thread from the guy looking to know where independent consultants looked for work so he could refer his customers there for a small piece of programming work that frequently comes up with the APP he's selling. I'm an independent consultant and I've been going completely on word of mouth, but thought I'd at least take a look through some of the sites that were suggested. I was shocked at the rates that some of the consultants were quoting. On ODesk.com I saw a few projects where the average rate was <$15. Since I'm generally charging >$80/hr it made me think. So, what is everyone else charging? Are these sites skewing the rates to the low end? Or am just off the top end and lucky to have any work coming in?
The contracting I'm doing 'on the side' to my day job I charge $50/hour. It's cheap, but I also don't do fixed price contracts, and my hours are limited to 15-20 per week. The terms limit my suitability to certain contract roles, so the low rate compensates. If this were my sole source of income, my rate would be much higher (probably around $125/hour) but my terms would be more flexible.
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My Company charges for my consulting work about 200 PLN / h. When I read your posts I get feeling that even in Poland rates are quite high. But from that 200 I get less than 40% - thats sad :(
jszczur wrote:
200 I get less than 40%
That's not unusual. In the US, a typical employee receives about 1/3 of the amount charged for their time. Most companies have major expenses for the employee on top of their salary: benefits (insurance, vacation, retirement, etc), taxes, and so on. Those 'charges' can add up to close to what the employee is paid. The company also wants to profit from what they can charge, so that adds in. The mistake a lot of sole proprietors make is not factoring this into their rates. They charge what they want to pay themselves, and then wonder why they are losing money.
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I was just reading through the thread from the guy looking to know where independent consultants looked for work so he could refer his customers there for a small piece of programming work that frequently comes up with the APP he's selling. I'm an independent consultant and I've been going completely on word of mouth, but thought I'd at least take a look through some of the sites that were suggested. I was shocked at the rates that some of the consultants were quoting. On ODesk.com I saw a few projects where the average rate was <$15. Since I'm generally charging >$80/hr it made me think. So, what is everyone else charging? Are these sites skewing the rates to the low end? Or am just off the top end and lucky to have any work coming in?
In Ireland the company I used to work for would charge about 750 euro per day for development work, increasing to a max of 900 per day if we didn't know the client/hadn't come to an arrangement with them. However for things like website development we would charge a lower rate of about 450 per day and then farm the work itself out to contractor sites like elance and get the work done for 1/2 that amount. We found those sites useful only if the work was fully detailed in a specification document and of a relatively easy nature. Anything that got too technical or involved more then a week of coding we did inhouse, as then the outsourcing cost us more then it saved us.