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  • G Gary Kirkham

    digital man wrote:

    Is his faith so weak that it could be turned by a few words on the side of a bus?

    Or he is standing on principle. Do you have any principles that would cause you to stand up and say "hell no, I am not going to have anything to do with this"? Or maybe you don't...there are many that don't seem to have any. Just because you don't agree with his principles, why do you feel the need to belittle him for his?

    Gary Kirkham Forever Forgiven and Alive in the Spirit "Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life. Me blog, You read

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    R Giskard Reventlov
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    Gary Kirkham wrote:

    Or he is standing on principle

    Are you trying to say that a few words on the side of a bus are that threatening that he needs to find an excuse reason not to work for the day? He is stupid and simple or he would have laughed it off and got on with his job.

    Gary Kirkham wrote:

    Just because you don't agree with his principles, why do you feel the need to belittle him for his?

    If your faith can be upset by a few words then it must be pretty weak.

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      Gary Kirkham wrote:

      Or he is standing on principle

      Are you trying to say that a few words on the side of a bus are that threatening that he needs to find an excuse reason not to work for the day? He is stupid and simple or he would have laughed it off and got on with his job.

      Gary Kirkham wrote:

      Just because you don't agree with his principles, why do you feel the need to belittle him for his?

      If your faith can be upset by a few words then it must be pretty weak.

      me, me, me

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      Ilion
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      digital man wrote:

      Are you trying to say that a few words on the side of a bus are that threatening that

      :laugh: :laugh: :rolleyes: :laugh: :laugh: [^]

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      • D Dalek Dave

        If you are running a company, trying to make money to house and feed your family and one of your employees says he can't agree with what you are doing, so he won't do it, but will expect full pay, what would you do? Fire him and employ someone who will do as they are told for the money, or go broke to pay for his principals?

        ------------------------------------ "The greatest tragedy in mankind's entire history may be the hijacking of morality by religion" Arthur C Clarke

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        Gary Kirkham
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        The company is well within their rights to fire him for not doing his job. If the driver really believes in the stand he is making, then he should be prepared for and accept that consequence. If he is a good employee, then maybe it is to their advantage to accomondate him.

        Gary Kirkham Forever Forgiven and Alive in the Spirit "Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life. Me blog, You read

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        • R R Giskard Reventlov

          You're a feeble moron, pure and simple.

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          Ilion
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          digital man wrote:

          You're a feeble moron, pure and simple.

          Need you be reminded?[^]

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          • R R Giskard Reventlov

            Gary Kirkham wrote:

            Or he is standing on principle

            Are you trying to say that a few words on the side of a bus are that threatening that he needs to find an excuse reason not to work for the day? He is stupid and simple or he would have laughed it off and got on with his job.

            Gary Kirkham wrote:

            Just because you don't agree with his principles, why do you feel the need to belittle him for his?

            If your faith can be upset by a few words then it must be pretty weak.

            me, me, me

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            Gary Kirkham
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            digital man wrote:

            If your faith can be upset by a few words then it must be pretty weak.

            Give it a rest. Should I assume then, that you have no principles that would cause you to make such a stand?

            Gary Kirkham Forever Forgiven and Alive in the Spirit "Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life. Me blog, You read

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            • G Gary Kirkham

              digital man wrote:

              Is his faith so weak that it could be turned by a few words on the side of a bus?

              Or he is standing on principle. Do you have any principles that would cause you to stand up and say "hell no, I am not going to have anything to do with this"? Or maybe you don't...there are many that don't seem to have any. Just because you don't agree with his principles, why do you feel the need to belittle him for his?

              Gary Kirkham Forever Forgiven and Alive in the Spirit "Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life. Me blog, You read

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              • D Dalek Dave

                If you are running a company, trying to make money to house and feed your family and one of your employees says he can't agree with what you are doing, so he won't do it, but will expect full pay, what would you do? Fire him and employ someone who will do as they are told for the money, or go broke to pay for his principals?

                ------------------------------------ "The greatest tragedy in mankind's entire history may be the hijacking of morality by religion" Arthur C Clarke

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                Dave, it could be argued that if you were to fire a person because of (1) his religious stance or (2) his right to expression or (3) to occasion discrimination, your company could be sued Schedule 1, part 2 article 9, article 10 and article 14 of the Human Rights Act 1998 is relevant. So you would need to find other ways to resolve the issue.

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                  Dave, it could be argued that if you were to fire a person because of (1) his religious stance or (2) his right to expression or (3) to occasion discrimination, your company could be sued Schedule 1, part 2 article 9, article 10 and article 14 of the Human Rights Act 1998 is relevant. So you would need to find other ways to resolve the issue.

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                  Dalek Dave
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                  So it is! So he is breaking the Human Rights Act by being intolerant to those of an Atheist Disposition.

                  ------------------------------------ "The greatest tragedy in mankind's entire history may be the hijacking of morality by religion" Arthur C Clarke

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                  • I Ilion

                    digital man wrote:

                    You're a feeble moron, pure and simple.

                    Need you be reminded?[^]

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                    R Giskard Reventlov
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                    Not by a hateful little pustule like you.

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                    • G Gary Kirkham

                      digital man wrote:

                      If your faith can be upset by a few words then it must be pretty weak.

                      Give it a rest. Should I assume then, that you have no principles that would cause you to make such a stand?

                      Gary Kirkham Forever Forgiven and Alive in the Spirit "Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life. Me blog, You read

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                      R Giskard Reventlov
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                      Not of this sort: it is trivial and risible and is also not very christian: are the beliefs (or otherwise) of others not allowed to be seen? Ar emy beliefs so upsetting to you that you could not even read them without have the strength to understand them without being turned? You give it a rest.

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                      • R R Giskard Reventlov

                        Not of this sort: it is trivial and risible and is also not very christian: are the beliefs (or otherwise) of others not allowed to be seen? Ar emy beliefs so upsetting to you that you could not even read them without have the strength to understand them without being turned? You give it a rest.

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                        Gary Kirkham
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                        I feel very confident in saying that if someone put the ten commandments on the side of the buses you would be whining. So yeah, give it a rest.

                        digital man wrote:

                        it is trivial and risible

                        Then you have no basis to complain that others might feel the same about your principles.

                        Gary Kirkham Forever Forgiven and Alive in the Spirit "Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life. Me blog, You read

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                        • D Dalek Dave

                          So it is! So he is breaking the Human Rights Act by being intolerant to those of an Atheist Disposition.

                          ------------------------------------ "The greatest tragedy in mankind's entire history may be the hijacking of morality by religion" Arthur C Clarke

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                          Dalek Dave wrote:

                          So he is breaking the Human Rights Act by being intolerant to those of an Atheist Disposition.

                          No. He is a private individual and thus not a representative of any public or private entity.

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                            Dalek Dave wrote:

                            So he is breaking the Human Rights Act by being intolerant to those of an Atheist Disposition.

                            No. He is a private individual and thus not a representative of any public or private entity.

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                            Dalek Dave
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                            Being a private individual excuses you from obeying the law? I don't think so. And he is a reprentitive of a public or private entity, he is an employee of a Public Transport Company.

                            ------------------------------------ "The greatest tragedy in mankind's entire history may be the hijacking of morality by religion" Arthur C Clarke

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                            • R R Giskard Reventlov

                              Not of this sort: it is trivial and risible and is also not very christian: are the beliefs (or otherwise) of others not allowed to be seen? Ar emy beliefs so upsetting to you that you could not even read them without have the strength to understand them without being turned? You give it a rest.

                              me, me, me

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                              Ilion
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                              digital man wrote:

                              Not of this sort: it is trivial and risible and is also not very christian: are the beliefs (or otherwise) of others not allowed to be seen? Ar emy beliefs so upsetting to you that you could not even read them without have the strength to understand them without being turned?

                              :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

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                              • G Gary Kirkham

                                I feel very confident in saying that if someone put the ten commandments on the side of the buses you would be whining. So yeah, give it a rest.

                                digital man wrote:

                                it is trivial and risible

                                Then you have no basis to complain that others might feel the same about your principles.

                                Gary Kirkham Forever Forgiven and Alive in the Spirit "Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life. Me blog, You read

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                                R Giskard Reventlov
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                                Gary Kirkham wrote:

                                I feel very confident in saying that if someone put the ten commandments on the side of the buses you would be whining.

                                You couldn't be more wrong if you had a masters in wrongness. The written word where it conflicts with my views I find well worth reading and trying to understand. If, having done that, my opinion chnages then all well and good; if not, no harm done. I doubt that there is a written form of words that would rattle my cage suffciently to put me in fear of those words or the meaning behind them.

                                Gary Kirkham wrote:

                                Then you have no basis to complain that others might feel the same about your principles.

                                Well of course I don't: please feel free to take the piss as much as you want (I like a good laugh); I'll certainly take the piss out of you.

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                                • R R Giskard Reventlov

                                  Man refuses to drive 'No God' bus [^] I can only imagine how threatened this twat must feel by a sign on the side of a bus. Is his faith so weak that it could be turned by a few words on the side of a bus? Moron.

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                                  Rob Graham
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                                  Regardless of YOUR beliefs, I think the gentleman has as much rights as anyone to protest over his beliefs. By calling him weak-minded, you only reveal your prejudice in the matter. I don't happen to agree with his position either, but think you might be the moron here for disrespecting his right to protest.

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                                  • D Dalek Dave

                                    Being a private individual excuses you from obeying the law? I don't think so. And he is a reprentitive of a public or private entity, he is an employee of a Public Transport Company.

                                    ------------------------------------ "The greatest tragedy in mankind's entire history may be the hijacking of morality by religion" Arthur C Clarke

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                                    Actually, the Act gives protection to an individual against public authority. Not giving individual protection against another individual. Thus, the individual also has some responsibilities namely "for the protection of the reputation or rights of others" but failure for the individual to give such undertaking is not a violation of somebody else's rights under Human Rights legislation but maybe prosecuted under some other act. If the employee is deemed a representative of a public or private entity and causes some action contrary to the Human Rights Act then the public or private entity can be prosecuted but not the individual who is the representative of such entity. However, the employee in this particular case is using his rights not to drive a bus which distresses him because of stated articles of Human Rights Act and consequently it is a requirement of the entity to satisfy those rights or face possible prosecution.

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                                      Rob Graham
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                                      That is the least intelligent and most bigoted remark I have ever seen you post. Sad.

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                                        That is the least intelligent and most bigoted remark I have ever seen you post. Sad.

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                                        soap brain
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                                        I'm unbelievably bored at the moment.

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                                        • R Rob Graham

                                          That is the least intelligent and most bigoted remark I have ever seen you post. Sad.

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                                          soap brain
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                                          Actually, can I take back that I ever said it? It came out a lot worse than I intended.

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