Office 2007 ?
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Simon Capewell wrote:
you're flipping incessantly from one tab to another and it's really really tedious.
Kind of like constantly clicking and scrolling down through the drop down menus of 2003 forever searching through the pop-out sub menus. Very tedious.
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Only if you don't use the toolbars. My dislike isn't the concept of the ribbon, it's the trumpeting that it's so much better than toolbars and yet within 10 minutes of working with it (ignoring the "where has function X gone" difficulties), I'd found something that involved more mouse clicks than it would've taken in 2003 - working with tables. One could add the table tools to the quick access toolbar, but space is limited, you can only display it in two different locations and it's not context sensitive, so I'll still see my table buttons if I'm working with a chart. At least you get to see the keyboard shortcuts for everything fairly easily now. e.g. Alt JLTL aligns your table cell top left, however that's not going to help the more basic users (you know, the ones that use the mouse to move from one textbox to another in a dialog rather than use tab).
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Is it just me or is Office 2007 a large steaming pile of ? I have a maxed out dual core machine, and I can easily outstrip outlook when typing an email message, and I ain't no speed demon on the keyboard. Co-worker of mine told me to just not do it... I'll regret. He's right.
Charlie Gilley Will program for food... Hurtling toward a government of the stupid, by the stupid, for the stupid we go. —Michelle Malkin
Yep, my dad's Celeron 533 with 256MB runs Office 2003 quite happily and it has no problems keeping up. At work we use Office 2007 with dual core processors and 2GB RAM and am forever waiting for Word/Excel to load or catch up with other things. Excel seems to not even bother recalculating formulas a lot of the time unless I type more slowly. As for the ribbon, don't get me started. It's bad enough to have to click on a tab and then on a button rather than just a single click on a button but combine that with things like the "Insert Cells" command being on the "Home" tab rather than the "Insert" tab and macro recording being placed on the "View" tab X|
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Simon Capewell wrote:
you're flipping incessantly from one tab to another and it's really really tedious.
Kind of like constantly clicking and scrolling down through the drop down menus of 2003 forever searching through the pop-out sub menus. Very tedious.
I ran over your dogma with my karma
But in 2003 you can re-arrange them so the commands you use the most are on the toolbar.
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I agree. However, that bloated pile they call Outlook doesn't have the ribbon bar and it really needs it. I use 07, I support 2000 and 2003 at work and I still don't understand why I have to click through 5 menus just to add a pst. I hope MS puts the ribbon bar on everything. Hey how about a pc that boots to a ribbon bar instead of waiting for the OS? :)
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Dirk Higbee wrote:
I hope MS puts the ribbon bar on everything
The next version of office is supposed to spread the ribbon wider. Win7 has ribbonified existing toolbar/menu bundleware applets.
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I love it. I get all the interactivity between the things, and as I use it daily, I am use to it and know where all the stuff is. I can call a spreadsheet that can use a labelling system on Word and have embedded emails using outlook to the different managers etc. I find the ribbon is good for holding much more stuff than just a pallette. I suppose it is a matter of taste.
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I also have no problems with Office 2007, must have other people are using it ;P
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so far i've no complaints, in fact i like it. same goes for vista.
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Hear Hear:thumbsup:
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Is it just me or is Office 2007 a large steaming pile of ? I have a maxed out dual core machine, and I can easily outstrip outlook when typing an email message, and I ain't no speed demon on the keyboard. Co-worker of mine told me to just not do it... I'll regret. He's right.
Charlie Gilley Will program for food... Hurtling toward a government of the stupid, by the stupid, for the stupid we go. —Michelle Malkin
Hell, I'm still using Office 97...
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Is it just me or is Office 2007 a large steaming pile of ? I have a maxed out dual core machine, and I can easily outstrip outlook when typing an email message, and I ain't no speed demon on the keyboard. Co-worker of mine told me to just not do it... I'll regret. He's right.
Charlie Gilley Will program for food... Hurtling toward a government of the stupid, by the stupid, for the stupid we go. —Michelle Malkin
I'm happy with it save for the etching on basalt that outlook and only outlook does. It was a pita getting used to the ribbon at first, but I could live with it or without it. But MS seriously has to take care of outlook, otherwise, I'm going to have to write a better email client....
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so far i've no complaints, in fact i like it. same goes for vista.
---------------------------------------------------------- "unzip; strip; touch; finger; mount; fsck; more; yes; unmount; sleep" - my daily unix command list
...since I'm still using XP
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Is it just me or is Office 2007 a large steaming pile of ? I have a maxed out dual core machine, and I can easily outstrip outlook when typing an email message, and I ain't no speed demon on the keyboard. Co-worker of mine told me to just not do it... I'll regret. He's right.
Charlie Gilley Will program for food... Hurtling toward a government of the stupid, by the stupid, for the stupid we go. —Michelle Malkin
yes, it is. On the outlook front, this has to be the worst email client ever in the history of the world. Right now it's doing a search for me and as soon as the search results come back, it blanks the list. Add that to the fact that filters rarely work the way they are supposed to and it occassionally loses email and my frustration with this POS keeps growing...
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yes, it is. On the outlook front, this has to be the worst email client ever in the history of the world. Right now it's doing a search for me and as soon as the search results come back, it blanks the list. Add that to the fact that filters rarely work the way they are supposed to and it occassionally loses email and my frustration with this POS keeps growing...
What? Have you never heard of Lotus Notes? Outlook achieves nowhere near the magnitude of suck that Notes does.
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I agree. However, that bloated pile they call Outlook doesn't have the ribbon bar and it really needs it. I use 07, I support 2000 and 2003 at work and I still don't understand why I have to click through 5 menus just to add a pst. I hope MS puts the ribbon bar on everything. Hey how about a pc that boots to a ribbon bar instead of waiting for the OS? :)
I ran over your dogma with my karma
I agree there! Outlook always has seemed like it is the red headed step child when it comes to UI enhancements. Its almost like it's not really an MS product sometimes. I was shocked to see that you only had the ribbon when you were editing a message. Seemed very odd to me.
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Is it just me or is Office 2007 a large steaming pile of ? I have a maxed out dual core machine, and I can easily outstrip outlook when typing an email message, and I ain't no speed demon on the keyboard. Co-worker of mine told me to just not do it... I'll regret. He's right.
Charlie Gilley Will program for food... Hurtling toward a government of the stupid, by the stupid, for the stupid we go. —Michelle Malkin
charlieg wrote:
Is it just me or is Office 2007 a large steaming pile of ?
I havent found any issues with Office 2007 yet. I am still using Office 2003. ;P
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so far i've no complaints, in fact i like it. same goes for vista.
---------------------------------------------------------- "unzip; strip; touch; finger; mount; fsck; more; yes; unmount; sleep" - my daily unix command list
Same here. In fact I have to say that it i think ti runs rather well on my Dual-core machine that's now down to 2GB RAM. The wife runs it under Vista on her Dual Core 1.7Ghz laptop with 2GB RAM and loves it. Vista, I still have some cautious reservations about... My wife loves it, I had issues with it staying stable, but am looking forward to Win7. I for one would love to finally see a unified UI across all MS products at some point. Perhaps once they have migrated enough stuff over to WPF the UI can be decoupled form the apps more and that will happen.
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What? Have you never heard of Lotus Notes? Outlook achieves nowhere near the magnitude of suck that Notes does.
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Is it just me or is Office 2007 a large steaming pile of ? I have a maxed out dual core machine, and I can easily outstrip outlook when typing an email message, and I ain't no speed demon on the keyboard. Co-worker of mine told me to just not do it... I'll regret. He's right.
Charlie Gilley Will program for food... Hurtling toward a government of the stupid, by the stupid, for the stupid we go. —Michelle Malkin
I've been remiss. I have slandered the other applications when my vitriol is directed at Outlook. All I know is that when I installed 2007 with the defaults, it feels like 100 tons of nothing slowing my machine down. As I type in this text entry window, it keeps up. If I tried outlook the characters would be trailing....
Charlie Gilley Will program for food... Hurtling toward a government of the stupid, by the stupid, for the stupid we go. —Michelle Malkin
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I'm still on 95
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Yeah, windows 95!
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Hell, I'm still using Office 97...
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001I'm still on 95
Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?"
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I'm still on 95
Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?"
Let's just cut to the chase and be done with this: I'm on 6.0 I'm on word perfect I'm on wordstar I'm on edln I use a toggle switch to enter ascii in binary format I use a logic probe and battery to enter data directly into memory chips obligatory xkcd[^]
Today's lesson is brought to you by the word "niggardly". Remember kids, don't attribute to racism what can be explained by Scandinavian language roots. -- Robert Royall
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Let's just cut to the chase and be done with this: I'm on 6.0 I'm on word perfect I'm on wordstar I'm on edln I use a toggle switch to enter ascii in binary format I use a logic probe and battery to enter data directly into memory chips obligatory xkcd[^]
Today's lesson is brought to you by the word "niggardly". Remember kids, don't attribute to racism what can be explained by Scandinavian language roots. -- Robert Royall
dan neely wrote:
I'm on 6.0 I'm on word perfect I'm on wordstar I'm on edln I use a toggle switch to enter ascii in binary format I use a logic probe and battery to enter data directly into memory chips
Memory Chips! You lucky B@stard, when I were a lad I had a Transistor Board and a voltmeter.
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