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Stan Shannon

Oakman wrote:

"In all of American history?" All?

Yes, Jon, all. Treating an American who has faithfully and honorably fulfilled the obligations of his office in that fashion is, in fact, absolutely beyond any possibility of a doubt the vilest act that has occured in our history.

Oakman wrote:

Whine with my dinner.

Drink up, asshole.

Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

Oakman

Stan Shannon wrote:

Treating an American who has faithfully and honorably fulfilled the obligations of his office in that fashion is, in fact, absolutely beyond any possibility of a doubt the vilest act that has occured in our history.

Funny, I would have thought that assassinating "an American who has faithfully and honorably fulfilled the obligations of his office" might be a tad worse. I bet Mr. Lincoln would agree with me.

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leckey 0 · modified on Tuesday, January 20, 2009 10:24 PM

You can't have free speech and not to disagree with a President, or anyone else for that matter. Rude? Yes. Uncouth? Yes. But to condemn them? That's ANTI-American. As long as a person does not condone violence on another, they have the right to say what they feel. Just because it doesn't mesh with your thoughts does not give you the right to determine their future outcome. BTW, I am still a registered Republican, voted for Bush both times. You make me ashamed of being Republican if your thoughts are the majority of the party.

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Stan Shannon

Oakman wrote:

Funny, I would have thought that assassinating "an American who has faithfully and honorably fulfilled the obligations of his office" might be a tad worse. I bet Mr. Lincoln would agree with me.

Lincoln was murdered by a madman who believed himself to be acting on behalf of a foreign government. But, hey, if you want to present that for comparison, thats fine with me.

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Stan Shannon

leckey wrote:

they have the right to say what they feel.

I didn't say they didn't have the right, I said they didn't deserve it. Using their free speech rights in that way was hypocritical, despicable and as anti-American as any thing any American has ever done.

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leckey 0

So how do you determine who DESERVES more free speech than another in the US?

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Stan Shannon

leckey wrote:

So how do you determine who DESERVES more free speech than another in the US?

Based upon my own, individual, moral evaluations.

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leckey 0

So based on YOUR moral evaluations a person has more free speech? Wow, how anti-1st Amendment of you.

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Stan Shannon

leckey wrote:

So based on YOUR moral evaluations a person has more free speech? Wow, how anti-1st Amendment of you.

I never said any such thing. Booing and ridiculing a man who worked for 8 years to preserve their right to free speech is reprehensible in every damn sense of the word. With freedom comes responsibility. You cannot have one without the other and what those people did was grossly irresponsible, encouraged by the behavior of the democrat party and the American left for the last 8 years.

Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

BoneSoft

Christian Graus wrote:

Is Bush subject to the same level of blame ?

Near as I can tell, he's to blame for anything that goes wrong anywhere any time. I fully expect to soon hear that Murphy's Law has been renamed Bush's Law. But it's not just Bush, remember one old lady saying Obama was a terrorist? Then suddenly McCain and his entire voting base believed that (if you believe the media anyway)? Stan may be wrong in doing so, but is he more damaging that virtually the entire national media doing it for the other team before the election? I'm not saying it's right, but the media does it for months, no doubt swaying votes, and nobody raises an eyebrow. But Stan does it on CP, and suddenly it deserves rebuke?

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That's a toughy, but I'd start with respecting the nations offices, officials, structures and founding documents. Thats 2 out of 4 against those idiots. That being said, I wouldn't condone curtailing their rights, but I'd be all for turning a fire hose on them.

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MrPlankton

leckey wrote:

You make me ashamed of being Republican if your thoughts are the majority of the party.

Don't you think you are over reacting? Anyway I'm a registered independent, after the first bail out bill... on re-registration they asked me what race I was and I put "american indian" (not my real race) ... I am so sick of this shit!!!. I plan to stroke off a check against Ried's opponent and John McLames opponent. (McCain of course in the primary).... Anyway I feel Stan's pain... ragging somewhere in the continental US against THE MAN

MrPlankton

Mexican boy: Viene la tormenta! Sarah Connor: What did he just say? Gas Station Attendant: He said there's a storm coming Sarah Connor: [sighs] I know.

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In Stans world you can have all the free speech you want, so long as you agree with him.

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soap brain · modified on Tuesday, January 20, 2009 10:24 PM

My God you're a dick, as well as a traitor to your country. I agree with you about Bush being a good person who tried to do the right thing, but being booed is hardly the most despicable act in US history. Accept it, Obama was elected because a majority wanted to elect him. Yes, I'm sorry the US government hasn't been dissolved and the country broken up into a huge collection of smaller countries, I really am. I'm sorry you can't spell 'ascent', drunk or sober. And yes, I'm sorry you're too stupid to understand that your new President doesn't have to brainwash people to be liked by them. Just stop being a sore loser. You whinge more than my little cousin. :doh:

soap brain

If you wanted to exclude assassinations, mass murders, serial killings, lynchings, terrorist acts, abductions, gang rapes, tortures etc. then you should've been more specific than "the most despicable act in all of American history". Of course it's the worst if you ignore everything that's worse than it. :doh:

John Carson

Ravel H. Joyce wrote:

If you wanted to exclude assassinations, mass murders, serial killings, lynchings, terrorist acts, abductions, gang rapes, tortures etc. then you should've been more specific than "the most despicable act in all of American history". Of course it's the worst if you ignore everything that's worse than it.

Exactly right.

John Carson

Oakman

DRHuff wrote:

But I will give the Republicans credit for way more grace and class on their exit compared to Clinton and his staff. From all reports the Bush White house has done as much as possible to create a smooth turnover for Obama. Compare that to the minimal amount done by the Clinton staff and the state of the offices after they left.

I've thought the same thing more than once these last couple of months. Bush definitely left office behaving in a manner that should shame Clinton - and Stan.

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Lost User · modified on Tuesday, January 20, 2009 10:24 PM

boo hoo hoo people were mean to Bush, mommy, they should die in a fire, please make them and everyone else die in a fire, please mommy this was worse than 9/11

- F

Oakman

Ravel H. Joyce wrote:

If you wanted to exclude assassinations, mass murders, serial killings, lynchings, terrorist acts, abductions, gang rapes, tortures etc. then you should've been more specific than "the most despicable act in all of American history".

You eviscerated him. Congratulations.

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Oakman

MrPlankton wrote:

american indian

I leave it as "American," whenever possible. Got into a real row with a census-taker over that.

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