Speaking of crap TV
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Maxxx_ wrote:
What the heck am going to do with him with no TV? He'll get SpongeBob withdrawal!
My boy will be 3 next month. I am up usually by 6:30 and he is up no later than 7:00. Not quite your problem but I used to sleep in until 8:30 before he came along. I just had to deal with it. We've just stopped letting him watch TV until after he has eaten. It wasn't always like that and grandma(s) aren't a lot of help. But I think being consistent is key. Otherwise, he helps me make breakfast or plays with his toys. Can you try to get him busy doing some chores? I have my boy feed the dog and his fish first thing in the morning. Just some routine to settle him a bit since he is a pretty high energy guy.
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Chris Austin wrote:
3 next month.
Happy Birthday in advance!:rose:
Chris Austin wrote:
he is up no later than 7:00
You lucky, lucky thing!
Chris Austin wrote:
Can you try to get him busy doing some chores?
He's actually really good at helping out - he goes and gets the newspaper (from the end of the drive - in his go-cart) and will do chores etc. - but we're guilty, I guess, of using the TV as the stop-gap between things. I guess it's a case of all of us getting out of th habbit. Personally I don't think I'd miss the TV (except Dr. Who) and would gladly do without - but the Dragon likes all of the reality shows, and esp. the renovation shows (you know, location location location relocation location and the rest) and is the best 'vegger' I've ever come across.
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Chris Austin wrote:
3 next month.
Happy Birthday in advance!:rose:
Chris Austin wrote:
he is up no later than 7:00
You lucky, lucky thing!
Chris Austin wrote:
Can you try to get him busy doing some chores?
He's actually really good at helping out - he goes and gets the newspaper (from the end of the drive - in his go-cart) and will do chores etc. - but we're guilty, I guess, of using the TV as the stop-gap between things. I guess it's a case of all of us getting out of th habbit. Personally I don't think I'd miss the TV (except Dr. Who) and would gladly do without - but the Dragon likes all of the reality shows, and esp. the renovation shows (you know, location location location relocation location and the rest) and is the best 'vegger' I've ever come across.
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Maxxx_ wrote:
Happy Birthday in advance!
Thanks....he appreciates it.
Maxxx_ wrote:
You lucky, lucky thing!
Tell me that when it's midnight and your boy is showing no signs of slowing down......... Every time grandma comes to visit I have at least a week's worth of damage control. He picked up his first curse word just the other day from her. :laugh:
Maxxx_ wrote:
Personally I don't think I'd miss the TV (except Dr. Who) and would gladly do without - but the Dragon likes all of the reality shows, and esp. the renovation shows (you know, location location location relocation location and the rest) and is the best 'vegger' I've ever come across.
Same here. I have a few shows that I need to watch. I am just hypocritical about it.
Sovereign ingredient for a happy marriage: Pay cash or do without. Interest charges not only eat up a household budget; awareness of debt eats up domestic felicity. --Lazarus Long
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Josh Gray wrote:
What is this sleep you talk of
I was just having the sleep conversation with another Father. We went to a sleep clinic with Henry when he was about 7 weeks old. I don't think he had slept more than 30 minutes at a time (I certainly hadn't!) One morning at the sleep clinic and he was sleeping almost through the night! I think hat ever new family (esp. if grandparents aren't around) should go to a sleep clinic (where available) or at east be forced to watch the 'Tired Signs' video.
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We saw the tired signs video at the prenatal classes. Our boy is a good sleeper generally but we had hoped he would be sleeping through the night by now. We started on him solids at 4 months hoping that would help but no joy yet. He goes to bed at 6:30pm, wakes for a feed about 3am and again at 5am then will sometimes go back down till about 7am. Given some of the stories I hear from the mothers group we cant complain too much
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Maxxx_ wrote:
Happy Birthday in advance!
Thanks....he appreciates it.
Maxxx_ wrote:
You lucky, lucky thing!
Tell me that when it's midnight and your boy is showing no signs of slowing down......... Every time grandma comes to visit I have at least a week's worth of damage control. He picked up his first curse word just the other day from her. :laugh:
Maxxx_ wrote:
Personally I don't think I'd miss the TV (except Dr. Who) and would gladly do without - but the Dragon likes all of the reality shows, and esp. the renovation shows (you know, location location location relocation location and the rest) and is the best 'vegger' I've ever come across.
Same here. I have a few shows that I need to watch. I am just hypocritical about it.
Sovereign ingredient for a happy marriage: Pay cash or do without. Interest charges not only eat up a household budget; awareness of debt eats up domestic felicity. --Lazarus Long
Chris Austin wrote:
He picked up his first curse word just the other day
Funny story: Henry was at prep with a kid who was, shall we say, a little less disciplined than most kids of that age (when asked by one of the mothers why he looked so glum, he answered 'I'm having a F**king bad day', for example. The teacher was aware and had explained (unbeknown to us)to he kids hat they must not use the F-Word. So, on day I'm sitting with him in the car, and start to sing the alphabet song (you know - ABC to the twinkle twinkle tune) "No, Daddy!" says Henry - quite seriously. "What's up?" I ask. "You can't sing that!" He says. "Why not?" Henry goes quiet and shy "What's the problem?" I ask "I can't tell you because the teacher said not to say it." "Say what?" "I Can't!" Eventually I persuade him that, whatever it is that is worrying him, it's fine to say it in order to explain the problem - even when the teacher has said not to. "You can't say the F-Word" he says. "I know - I wasn't going to - I was just singing A, B, C, D, E, " "Nooooo!" "Oh!" Realisation dawned. Now - I tried to work out how to explain that the letter 'F' is not the F word without using the word 'F***' Of course, I didn't - I had to say "F*** is a bad word that you mustn't use because it upsets some people. It upsets them so much that, instead of saying 'F***' people say 'The F-Word'- because it begins with the letter F. pause while this sinks in... "Oh," says the boy "Is that like when Mummy says 'Sugar' instead of 'Sh*t'? I had tears rolling down my face - and poor Henry couldn't figure out what he'd said that was so funny!
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Chris Austin wrote:
He picked up his first curse word just the other day
Funny story: Henry was at prep with a kid who was, shall we say, a little less disciplined than most kids of that age (when asked by one of the mothers why he looked so glum, he answered 'I'm having a F**king bad day', for example. The teacher was aware and had explained (unbeknown to us)to he kids hat they must not use the F-Word. So, on day I'm sitting with him in the car, and start to sing the alphabet song (you know - ABC to the twinkle twinkle tune) "No, Daddy!" says Henry - quite seriously. "What's up?" I ask. "You can't sing that!" He says. "Why not?" Henry goes quiet and shy "What's the problem?" I ask "I can't tell you because the teacher said not to say it." "Say what?" "I Can't!" Eventually I persuade him that, whatever it is that is worrying him, it's fine to say it in order to explain the problem - even when the teacher has said not to. "You can't say the F-Word" he says. "I know - I wasn't going to - I was just singing A, B, C, D, E, " "Nooooo!" "Oh!" Realisation dawned. Now - I tried to work out how to explain that the letter 'F' is not the F word without using the word 'F***' Of course, I didn't - I had to say "F*** is a bad word that you mustn't use because it upsets some people. It upsets them so much that, instead of saying 'F***' people say 'The F-Word'- because it begins with the letter F. pause while this sinks in... "Oh," says the boy "Is that like when Mummy says 'Sugar' instead of 'Sh*t'? I had tears rolling down my face - and poor Henry couldn't figure out what he'd said that was so funny!
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PMFSL... that's the funniest thing I've heard in ages!!
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We're sending my boy to a Steiner school - where they strongly discourage TV (especially before school). He wakes up at about 5:45 each morning (regardless of what time he goes to bed) so TV has been our sanity saver, as I can get him to watch for 30 minutes while I wake up and prepare myself to face the day! What the heck am going to do with him with no TV? He'll get SpongeBob withdrawal! Those of you with young kids - what do you do with yours in the mornings? (Unless you're lucky enough to have a sleeper-in!) Those of you without - get some sleep now, while you can!
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I had to buy a Sonic Boom Alarm with Bed Shaker(tm) to get my teen out of bed. Enjoy it while you can.
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Well he can't read yet (though he's getting there). Steiner don't formally teach reading until they're about 7 (they still do letters and sounds etc. but not reading books - although we'll be doing a lot of that as he enjoys a good yarn). Lego is good, but we find that being an only child he is prone to want someone else there - if only to show off his creations! This is a problem when I'm in the shower and he brings in his play-dough!
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Maxxx_ wrote:
Steiner don't formally teach reading until they're about
:wtf: I supposed they have some justification for this but it sounds like the purest definition of education failure I can imagine. By the age of 7 I was reading adult novels.
"It's so simple to be wise. Just think of something stupid to say and then don't say it." -Sam Levenson
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Chris Austin wrote:
He picked up his first curse word just the other day
Funny story: Henry was at prep with a kid who was, shall we say, a little less disciplined than most kids of that age (when asked by one of the mothers why he looked so glum, he answered 'I'm having a F**king bad day', for example. The teacher was aware and had explained (unbeknown to us)to he kids hat they must not use the F-Word. So, on day I'm sitting with him in the car, and start to sing the alphabet song (you know - ABC to the twinkle twinkle tune) "No, Daddy!" says Henry - quite seriously. "What's up?" I ask. "You can't sing that!" He says. "Why not?" Henry goes quiet and shy "What's the problem?" I ask "I can't tell you because the teacher said not to say it." "Say what?" "I Can't!" Eventually I persuade him that, whatever it is that is worrying him, it's fine to say it in order to explain the problem - even when the teacher has said not to. "You can't say the F-Word" he says. "I know - I wasn't going to - I was just singing A, B, C, D, E, " "Nooooo!" "Oh!" Realisation dawned. Now - I tried to work out how to explain that the letter 'F' is not the F word without using the word 'F***' Of course, I didn't - I had to say "F*** is a bad word that you mustn't use because it upsets some people. It upsets them so much that, instead of saying 'F***' people say 'The F-Word'- because it begins with the letter F. pause while this sinks in... "Oh," says the boy "Is that like when Mummy says 'Sugar' instead of 'Sh*t'? I had tears rolling down my face - and poor Henry couldn't figure out what he'd said that was so funny!
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That's just too damn funny.
Sovereign ingredient for a happy marriage: Pay cash or do without. Interest charges not only eat up a household budget; awareness of debt eats up domestic felicity. --Lazarus Long
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Chris Austin wrote:
He picked up his first curse word just the other day
Funny story: Henry was at prep with a kid who was, shall we say, a little less disciplined than most kids of that age (when asked by one of the mothers why he looked so glum, he answered 'I'm having a F**king bad day', for example. The teacher was aware and had explained (unbeknown to us)to he kids hat they must not use the F-Word. So, on day I'm sitting with him in the car, and start to sing the alphabet song (you know - ABC to the twinkle twinkle tune) "No, Daddy!" says Henry - quite seriously. "What's up?" I ask. "You can't sing that!" He says. "Why not?" Henry goes quiet and shy "What's the problem?" I ask "I can't tell you because the teacher said not to say it." "Say what?" "I Can't!" Eventually I persuade him that, whatever it is that is worrying him, it's fine to say it in order to explain the problem - even when the teacher has said not to. "You can't say the F-Word" he says. "I know - I wasn't going to - I was just singing A, B, C, D, E, " "Nooooo!" "Oh!" Realisation dawned. Now - I tried to work out how to explain that the letter 'F' is not the F word without using the word 'F***' Of course, I didn't - I had to say "F*** is a bad word that you mustn't use because it upsets some people. It upsets them so much that, instead of saying 'F***' people say 'The F-Word'- because it begins with the letter F. pause while this sinks in... "Oh," says the boy "Is that like when Mummy says 'Sugar' instead of 'Sh*t'? I had tears rolling down my face - and poor Henry couldn't figure out what he'd said that was so funny!
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Maaany years ago, visiting my sister and her family. We were all out in the garage, while my brother-in-law was changing a fluoro and their two little ones (at that time) being 4yo and <2yo were watching on and playing quietly. Brother-in-law drops the fluorescent tube with the accompanying almighty BANG a split second later as it hits the concrete. Both rugrats immediately shout "SH*T!" The two boys had absolutely no idea why all of the adults were suddenly laughing so hard.
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We're sending my boy to a Steiner school - where they strongly discourage TV (especially before school). He wakes up at about 5:45 each morning (regardless of what time he goes to bed) so TV has been our sanity saver, as I can get him to watch for 30 minutes while I wake up and prepare myself to face the day! What the heck am going to do with him with no TV? He'll get SpongeBob withdrawal! Those of you with young kids - what do you do with yours in the mornings? (Unless you're lucky enough to have a sleeper-in!) Those of you without - get some sleep now, while you can!
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As a kid I would have grabbed one of the books around my bed and read it. But that was me...
Maxxx_ wrote:
where they strongly discourage TV (especially before school).
They'll have their reasons - and I assume they are good. There are few serious studies about the effect of TV on kids (two I remember from the frontal cortex: here[^] and here[^]) I can imagine, however, that it is hard for any school to compete with the passive intensity of TV. What about chores? Preparing the school bag? Homework for later days (Oh, it's Steiner - i guess they don't have homework). Maybe homework you give them?
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Chris Austin wrote:
He picked up his first curse word just the other day
Funny story: Henry was at prep with a kid who was, shall we say, a little less disciplined than most kids of that age (when asked by one of the mothers why he looked so glum, he answered 'I'm having a F**king bad day', for example. The teacher was aware and had explained (unbeknown to us)to he kids hat they must not use the F-Word. So, on day I'm sitting with him in the car, and start to sing the alphabet song (you know - ABC to the twinkle twinkle tune) "No, Daddy!" says Henry - quite seriously. "What's up?" I ask. "You can't sing that!" He says. "Why not?" Henry goes quiet and shy "What's the problem?" I ask "I can't tell you because the teacher said not to say it." "Say what?" "I Can't!" Eventually I persuade him that, whatever it is that is worrying him, it's fine to say it in order to explain the problem - even when the teacher has said not to. "You can't say the F-Word" he says. "I know - I wasn't going to - I was just singing A, B, C, D, E, " "Nooooo!" "Oh!" Realisation dawned. Now - I tried to work out how to explain that the letter 'F' is not the F word without using the word 'F***' Of course, I didn't - I had to say "F*** is a bad word that you mustn't use because it upsets some people. It upsets them so much that, instead of saying 'F***' people say 'The F-Word'- because it begins with the letter F. pause while this sinks in... "Oh," says the boy "Is that like when Mummy says 'Sugar' instead of 'Sh*t'? I had tears rolling down my face - and poor Henry couldn't figure out what he'd said that was so funny!
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Maxxx_ wrote:
Steiner don't formally teach reading until they're about
:wtf: I supposed they have some justification for this but it sounds like the purest definition of education failure I can imagine. By the age of 7 I was reading adult novels.
"It's so simple to be wise. Just think of something stupid to say and then don't say it." -Sam Levenson
John C wrote:
it sounds like the purest definition of education failure I can imagine.
Gets my 5. My mum (who was a teacher) taught me to read before I went to school.
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Maxxx_ wrote:
Steiner don't formally teach reading until they're about
:wtf: I supposed they have some justification for this but it sounds like the purest definition of education failure I can imagine. By the age of 7 I was reading adult novels.
"It's so simple to be wise. Just think of something stupid to say and then don't say it." -Sam Levenson
I don't know exactly when I actually started reading, but I know when I found out I already knew how to read - I was barely 5, and was sighing and wishing I knew how to read so I could hurry and finish the book my dad was reading to us each night. My mom turned to me and said, "Honey, you can and do read already, didn't you know that?" She proceeded to write a short story for me made up of words she knew I knew, and lo and behold, I could read the story! I dived right in. Picture books? Hah! Only when they made me read "See Spot run. Run, Spot, run!" at school. I went straight for what I thought of as REAL books, not books for babies. I started with Nancy Drew and the Hardy Boys almost immediately, read The Hobbit, followed by The Lord of the Rings trilogy at the age of seven, and my first exposure to sci-fi was a couple of Heinlein juveniles just before I turned 8. I can't imagine why a school would want to wait that late to start kids reading.
Caffeine - it's what's for breakfast! (and lunch, and dinner, and...)
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As a kid I would have grabbed one of the books around my bed and read it. But that was me...
Maxxx_ wrote:
where they strongly discourage TV (especially before school).
They'll have their reasons - and I assume they are good. There are few serious studies about the effect of TV on kids (two I remember from the frontal cortex: here[^] and here[^]) I can imagine, however, that it is hard for any school to compete with the passive intensity of TV. What about chores? Preparing the school bag? Homework for later days (Oh, it's Steiner - i guess they don't have homework). Maybe homework you give them?
peterchen wrote:
As a kid I would have grabbed one of the books around my bed and read it. But that was me.
Yeah I kinda hope that will be Henry in a year or two - but he can't read right now...
peterchen wrote:
What about chores? Preparing the school bag? Homework for later days (Oh, it's Steiner - i guess they don't have homework). Maybe homework you give them?
Thanks - all good suggestions - he is actually looking forward to homework (still get it from Steiner - just not at prep years I think) so me setting him homeowrk to do before school sounds like a good plan
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Maxxx_ wrote:
Steiner don't formally teach reading until they're about
:wtf: I supposed they have some justification for this but it sounds like the purest definition of education failure I can imagine. By the age of 7 I was reading adult novels.
"It's so simple to be wise. Just think of something stupid to say and then don't say it." -Sam Levenson
Reading instruction, as such, is deferred. Instead, writing is taught first. During the first grade the children explore how our alphabet came about, discovering, as the ancients did, how each letter's form evolved out of a pictograph. Writing thus evolves out of the children's art, and their ability to read likewise evolves as a natural and, indeed, comparatively effortless stage of their mastery of language. (from the Steiner bumph) We know a lot of local kids who are going through this and all seem to be v well adjusted.
John C wrote:
By the age of 7 I was reading adult novels.
Maybe by 7 Henry will be writing them :) (And I hope you don't mean 'adult' novels ;)
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I don't know exactly when I actually started reading, but I know when I found out I already knew how to read - I was barely 5, and was sighing and wishing I knew how to read so I could hurry and finish the book my dad was reading to us each night. My mom turned to me and said, "Honey, you can and do read already, didn't you know that?" She proceeded to write a short story for me made up of words she knew I knew, and lo and behold, I could read the story! I dived right in. Picture books? Hah! Only when they made me read "See Spot run. Run, Spot, run!" at school. I went straight for what I thought of as REAL books, not books for babies. I started with Nancy Drew and the Hardy Boys almost immediately, read The Hobbit, followed by The Lord of the Rings trilogy at the age of seven, and my first exposure to sci-fi was a couple of Heinlein juveniles just before I turned 8. I can't imagine why a school would want to wait that late to start kids reading.
Caffeine - it's what's for breakfast! (and lunch, and dinner, and...)
ResidentGeek wrote:
I can't imagine why a school would want to wait that late to start kids reading.
they don't actually not teach reading (see my response elsewhere) but they do teach letters, shapes, sounds etc. frankly, Henry can already read a number of words - and like many others I believe that kids learn to read MUCH better at home (in the right environment) than at school - and that is what seems to happen at Steiner (or at ours, anyway) -that is, the kids tend to be learning to read at home, and this is supported at the school - but there is no 'formal' reading education.
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We saw the tired signs video at the prenatal classes. Our boy is a good sleeper generally but we had hoped he would be sleeping through the night by now. We started on him solids at 4 months hoping that would help but no joy yet. He goes to bed at 6:30pm, wakes for a feed about 3am and again at 5am then will sometimes go back down till about 7am. Given some of the stories I hear from the mothers group we cant complain too much