"You will live a long life -- unless you die young."

hairy_hats

Dalek Dave wrote:

Steve_Harris wrote: Don't you consider yourself and your family part of Mankind? Yes, but I can only care for my small part of it.

But you can care about all of it. :) No man is an island, by virtue of the fact that so much of our food and other goods is imported means that how well we can provide for our own is dependent on the well-being of the whole world, so we can't afford to be too insular. And I agree on the population control. Better to do it by choice now and start to get it under control than have it forced on us through mass starvation. By encouraging it through trade agreements you mean that poor countries will provide us with tea and iPods provided we bring our population under control? ;)

Dalek Dave

Steve_Harris wrote:

No man is an island

No! Man IS an Island. :)

Steve_Harris wrote:

you mean that poor countries will provide us with tea and iPods provided we bring our population under control?

Europe has a massively falling population, it is only because of immigration that we are increasing our pop. Italy, home of the catholic church, is getting worried about it's low birth rate. The trouble is Africans and Subcontinents are not limiting their birth then trying to get to Europe. They have no skill or resources so are not useful for europe, and if they do have skills and resources they are removing them from their home coutries. I am dead set against the NHS getting Trained Doctors and Nurses from Africa or India or the Phillipines. OK it is good for the NHS, but what about those countries they leave behind? And they have to leave, for poverty reasons. SO lets help them, STOP BREEDING, Children make you poor and are the worst thing you can do for the planet. If you want a good lifeastyle, cut the population. Also, it will reduce unemployment and tax expeniture and will allow the resources of the planet to last longer. And better we reduce pop by birth control than war. And it is coming. Water Wars will be the next 'Big Thing'.

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Lost User

Dalek Dave wrote:

Italy, home of the catholic church, is getting worried about it's low birth rate.

Italy's or the catholic church's. :)

Dalek Dave wrote:

The trouble is Africans and Subcontinents are not limiting their birth

War, AIDS, Genocide, Famine?

Dalek Dave wrote:

I am dead set against the NHS getting Trained Doctors and Nurses from Africa or India or the Phillipines. OK it is good for the NHS, but what about those countries they leave behind?

Hear, hear! (Suddenly, you're not an island? :) ) But, by taking their medics, we do help keep down their population.

Dalek Dave wrote:

SO lets help them, STOP BREEDING, Children make you poor and are the worst thing you can do for the planet.

My dear, that is sooo 70s! :) I have 4 adult sprogs. Poor, but happy. What we should do is cull the elderly, a bigger drain on the nation than all the immigrants. Work them till they drop: road maintenance, construction, mines, etc. Anyone reaching 75 gets pensioned off, with free passes to everything.

Dalek Dave wrote:

Water Wars will be the next 'Big Thing'.

Race you to Wales! Go West! To where the Cymru are; Or up a bit to Cumbria. Go West! To where it rains each day; And no-body with sense would stay.

Bob Emmett

Baconbutty

Cull the elderly Like in Logan's Run?

My new favourite phrase - "misdirected leisure activity"

Oakman

fat_boy wrote:

I would like to think that there are a sufficient number out there who's intelligence and understanding of a particular field makes what they have to say not only interesting, including predictions, but also of benefit to mankind.

"Never make predictions, especially about the future." -- Casey Stengel

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MrPlankton

Bob Emmett wrote:

What we should do is cull the elderly

Doesn't the NHS do that allready?

MrPlankton

Mexican boy: Viene la tormenta! Sarah Connor: What did he just say? Gas Station Attendant: He said there's a storm coming Sarah Connor: [sighs] I know.

Synaptrik

Dalek Dave wrote:

Screw Mankind, I need to worry about paying my bills and feeding my family.

1 - vote

Dalek Dave wrote:

The main problem is over population, but no-one has the balls to deal with that.

5 vote. Just explaining my 3 vote. :suss:

This statement is false

Oakman

Bob Emmett wrote:

What we should do is cull the elderly, a bigger drain on the nation than all the immigrants

Why? They aren't reproducing. What we need to do is kill off an entire generation of fertiles - say 20's - 30's. That solves the immediate problem as the unemployment rolls empty (elder are living on their pensions) and long-term as there are fewer kids to increase the demand for schools, hospitals, etc.

Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

peterchen

if that's to complicated for you, go back playing with lego.

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Lost User

MrPlankton wrote:

Doesn't the NHS do that allready?

Not deliberately. (I hope. :( )

Bob Emmett

Lost User

Oh, you're just biased, old man! :)

Bob Emmett

Oakman

Bob Emmett wrote:

Oh, you're just biased, old man!

I'm not biased. I'm sadder but wiser.

Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

Lost User

And thats it is it? Thats your best defence of the science as used by AGW in lilght of the criticisms made ny this article? Holy crap. You really must have either no understanding of AGW or no confidence in the prognostications of and in, its proponents. Sounds lke you are becoming a sceptic!

Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

peterchen

fat_boy wrote:

Thats your best defence of the science

No, that "defence" was hand-selected for you.

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Lost User

Sorry, you are being pathetic. I expected more of you but it seems you are totally incapable of being honest in joining most of the worlds experts in regarding this latest 'science' (and lets face it, Man is well known for this) as junk. Its a shame you are forcing yourself to look a fool in defending this garbage. You dont have to. You can admit that since the world in general has not played ball with the climate models for a decade and thus call those models into doubt and stil keep your green credentials.

Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

peterchen

I am not sure if I am capable, but the decision was based on being unwilling to argue with you, and being willing to tell you that.

fat_boy wrote:

Its a shame you are forcing yourself to look a fool in defending this garbage.

Where did I?

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Lost User

Boring. Sorry, I have expounded enough on your failings. Time to move on to someone else.

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