IE. The horror

J4amieC

So, you like it then? ;)

Paul Watson

How dominant is IE usage on CP? And how many CP users still use IE6? IE7 is a lot better (though still a bit "quirky", though sadly not in the "cute goth chick" quirky way.)

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Pete OHanlon

Chris Maunder wrote:

those engaged in moral turptitude.

So that would be me then, but I prefer to use the term "wallowing in the mire of moral turptitude." It's much more evocative.

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Hans Dietrich

Chris Maunder wrote:

those engaged in moral turptitude

Is this a new forum you'll be creating? Or are you just teasing us?

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phannon86

I encountered this for the first time last week, my first proper experience of web development (as a hobby, I'm gladly doing winforms at work). It amazed me how Microsoft's own controls don't even display properly (or how you'd expect at least). FF and Opera gave me what I wanted, Safari and Chrome needed some kind of back-end workaround but they interpreted the generated HTML properly.

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Nagy Vilmos

Oo oo! I know suggest a survey: Is IE: - Crap - Really crap - So crap, other crap things call it Mr Crappy Crap-Crap - I don't use IE

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Rage

Curious. Every time I complained about IE here, I got seriously voted down. So far, you have only been up-voted. Seems like IE's being good or not also depends on who says it. :) Anyway, I am forced to work with IE6 and the rendering engine is indeed one solid piece of crap.

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Simon Capewell

I feel your pain. We came up with a postback free multi layered modal popup interface using the Ajax Control Toolkit. Worked great in Firefox. IE utterly utterly ballsed it up with elements incorrectly Z ordered, mouse clicks falling through to the wrong elements. Moral. Build your concept layout in Firefox, but be sure to test it properly in IE before committing any time to it. And still the end users say "why would I want to use anything other than IE". How about using a browser that doesn't need to spend 3 seconds "connecting" to about:blank. WTF is there to connect to?

Chris Maunder

IE6 is about 17%. Enough to be frustrating.

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Chris Maunder

You're a bad man Hans. A bad man.

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Chris Maunder

It's because I used 'moral turptidude'.

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Hans Dietrich

Timing is everything. Or in this case, timezone is everything. In a few hours, the IE is god's gift to HTML crowd will log on, and Chris will be severely reprimanded and forced to set his screen background to poofy pink. :)

Best wishes, Hans

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benjymous

if( IE6 ) { redirect "/Articles/FFSGetFirefox.aspx"; }

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And we're glad you did. :-D Despite your peculiar spelling here... ;P

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Two years ago I had an opportunity to proof beyond a reasonable doubt that all flavors of IE suck at complex DOM operations; this poor guys code had to be completely trashed because of it. Could you describe your particular problem so we can all share in the hatred? (or is it posted in the ASP.NET forum?) Moral Turpitude, what are in Georgia now?

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Paul Watson

That is high for a tech website. Wonder if it is from corporate machines not allowed to upgrade or IE users who don't like the IE7 UI.

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Paul Watson

You could rename the Soapbox to that for awhile, see how people react.

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Paul Watson

Simon Capewell wrote:

about:blank. WTF is there to connect to?

http://microsoft.com/analytics/user.aspx?visited=about%3Ablank&ip=192.168.1.1

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ToddHileHoffer

Let me just tell you. I program standard corporate applications for internal use on the company's intranet. I have IE7 and FF installed on my machine. My users have IE6. They can't upgrade because JDE (our expensive accounting app) has not been updated and breaks in IE7. Anyway, I have wasted countless hours "fixing" my applications to work correctly in IE6. IE7 is bearable but IE6 is just awful.

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Simon Capewell

If they're collecting data like that, it'd be no wonder their online division is losing money!