Car Wash liability?
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So my SO wanted to wash her car and we passed an automated carwash very close to out house so she stopped. There were signs that said "we are not responsible for damage..." well to make a long story short the wash ripped off (and broke them beyond repair) both mirrors and even left one inside the machine which we had to have the 14 year old running the show fetch... Is there any way to get them to pay for the broken mirrors? I know that getting a lawyer involved would end up costing many times more than its possibly worth.
John
That type of law differs from state-to-state, however liability disclaimers are not always a legal defence. The car-wash has insurance... I would recommend pursuing legal action. Make sure to take alot of pictures. They will most likely settle... legal defence can be rather expensive. Best Wishes, -David Delaune
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Kathy was very angry about that. I mean when you read these warnings their was no indication that if your mirrors did not rotate in that they would be ripped off.. Just that they were not responsible. This message you see every where, but the chances of something happening bad is unlikely.
Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:
you might want to consider brow beating the management
There was no management on site. Just a teenager collecting money and pushing a button to select your wash options.
John
John M. Drescher wrote:
I mean when you read these warnings their was no indication that if your mirrors did not rotate in that they would be ripped off..
Then you would probably have grounds on the disclaimers not being meaningful enough. Pass by the car wash again and get the manager's number from the kid, just don't be too hard on him, he's probably pissed his pants already :)
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Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:
Not speaking from experience here, but if they have the notices and disclaimers clearly visible then probably not,
I'm not so sure. People put up disclaimers all the time. Doesn't mean squat if their equipment isn't maintained, they knowingly make a bad decision or they don't give you specific warnings (like max. car width = x) so you can make an informed choice. Cheers, Drew.
True. John just mentioned how they never mentioned if the mirrors don't rotate then they're getting ripped off. I think he has grounds to pursue it in a legal manner if necessary on the lack of information provided there alone.
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So my SO wanted to wash her car and we passed an automated carwash very close to out house so she stopped. There were signs that said "we are not responsible for damage..." well to make a long story short the wash ripped off (and broke them beyond repair) both mirrors and even left one inside the machine which we had to have the 14 year old running the show fetch... Is there any way to get them to pay for the broken mirrors? I know that getting a lawyer involved would end up costing many times more than its possibly worth.
John
John M. Drescher wrote:
I know that getting a lawyer involved would end up costing many times more than its possibly worth.
That suggests that it's not worth making more than a token effort to get any recompense. PS - I once saw a Volvo in a car wash with its bumper lying on the ground. I've always used a sponge, bucket of water and elbow grease myself. Regular car washes wreck the paintwork.
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John M. Drescher wrote:
I know that getting a lawyer involved would end up costing many times more than its possibly worth.
That suggests that it's not worth making more than a token effort to get any recompense. PS - I once saw a Volvo in a car wash with its bumper lying on the ground. I've always used a sponge, bucket of water and elbow grease myself. Regular car washes wreck the paintwork.
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John M. Drescher wrote:
I know that getting a lawyer involved would end up costing many times more than its possibly worth.
That suggests that it's not worth making more than a token effort to get any recompense. PS - I once saw a Volvo in a car wash with its bumper lying on the ground. I've always used a sponge, bucket of water and elbow grease myself. Regular car washes wreck the paintwork.
Not always an option if you're under water restrictions due to the drought...
cheers, Chris Maunder
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Not always an option if you're under water restrictions due to the drought...
cheers, Chris Maunder
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Most water restriction laws prevent the use of a garden hose. You're still OK if you just use a bucket.
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Most water restriction laws prevent the use of a garden hose. You're still OK if you just use a bucket.
Not in Victoria[^]. All that can be washed is mirrors and windows. That's not a set of water restrictions <pulling pamplet from back pocket and waving it menacingly> This is a set of water restrictions.
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Not always an option if you're under water restrictions due to the drought...
cheers, Chris Maunder
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But cars only really get dirty when it rains...
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But cars only really get dirty when it rains...
No, cars get clean when it rains. Cars get dirty when it hasn't rained for eons and then you get a useless spinkle, or a even a heavy dew and all the dust sticks like a second coat of paint.
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Not in Victoria[^]. All that can be washed is mirrors and windows. That's not a set of water restrictions <pulling pamplet from back pocket and waving it menacingly> This is a set of water restrictions.
cheers, Chris Maunder
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Out of curiosity, what happens if you don't follow the water restriction rules/guidelines? Supposing I grabbed the water hose and watered my garden and/or washed my car? What then? I get told off in an angry voice by a police officer named Bob? Arrested? Shot?
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Out of curiosity, what happens if you don't follow the water restriction rules/guidelines? Supposing I grabbed the water hose and watered my garden and/or washed my car? What then? I get told off in an angry voice by a police officer named Bob? Arrested? Shot?
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I think the most recent update to the law means you are either restricted to drinking Fosters for a year or, for repeat offenders, you get shipped off to New Zealand.
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I think the most recent update to the law means you are either restricted to drinking Fosters for a year or, for repeat offenders, you get shipped off to New Zealand.
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Could you translate that into Canadian terms? Is that like being sent to New Foundland or the Territories? Though TBH, Fosters, for a pregnant mare's urine of a beer is still MUCH better than the locally brewed Jordanian Amstel.
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So my SO wanted to wash her car and we passed an automated carwash very close to out house so she stopped. There were signs that said "we are not responsible for damage..." well to make a long story short the wash ripped off (and broke them beyond repair) both mirrors and even left one inside the machine which we had to have the 14 year old running the show fetch... Is there any way to get them to pay for the broken mirrors? I know that getting a lawyer involved would end up costing many times more than its possibly worth.
John
My dad actually owns a car wash, and we do have that disclaimer saying we are not responsible for any damage made to the car. The thing is that we can't know the state of customer's car, and if the mirror is almost falling down, and it finally fell down inside the tunnel, they would blame us even if it isn't our fault. There's even one type of car that has very fragile right mirror and we have a notice saying that on the cashier. Anyway, when we have had problems, we have paid for some things (especially minor repairs). What I would recommend is to approach the manager in a polite way and try to agree on something. Maybe you can get them to pay for part of the fix.
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John M. Drescher wrote:
I know that getting a lawyer involved would end up costing many times more than its possibly worth.
That suggests that it's not worth making more than a token effort to get any recompense. PS - I once saw a Volvo in a car wash with its bumper lying on the ground. I've always used a sponge, bucket of water and elbow grease myself. Regular car washes wreck the paintwork.
Steve_Harris wrote:
Regular car washes wreck the paintwork.
It depends on the carwash tunnel and the material of the brushes. I have a dark blue car which I pass through a tunnel 3 or 4 times per week and I've never had problems with my paintwork being scratched or something. Of course, if the brushes are low quality, or the car doesn't get enough water (and it's full of dirt), then it could be scratched, but it's not common.
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So my SO wanted to wash her car and we passed an automated carwash very close to out house so she stopped. There were signs that said "we are not responsible for damage..." well to make a long story short the wash ripped off (and broke them beyond repair) both mirrors and even left one inside the machine which we had to have the 14 year old running the show fetch... Is there any way to get them to pay for the broken mirrors? I know that getting a lawyer involved would end up costing many times more than its possibly worth.
John
Practically speaking, probably not. Maybe worth a call to whoever owns the car wash and complain, but I'd be surprised in this day and age if you get any satisfaction from them. Good luck though.
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Not in Victoria[^]. All that can be washed is mirrors and windows. That's not a set of water restrictions <pulling pamplet from back pocket and waving it menacingly> This is a set of water restrictions.
cheers, Chris Maunder
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:) I understand. Sorry to have doubted you.
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So my SO wanted to wash her car and we passed an automated carwash very close to out house so she stopped. There were signs that said "we are not responsible for damage..." well to make a long story short the wash ripped off (and broke them beyond repair) both mirrors and even left one inside the machine which we had to have the 14 year old running the show fetch... Is there any way to get them to pay for the broken mirrors? I know that getting a lawyer involved would end up costing many times more than its possibly worth.
John
I've never seen an automatic car wash that could come close to doing this so I'm guessing there is something faulty with it, i.e. it's not been well maintained or something so in all likelihood the "we are not responsible" isn't good enough in that case.
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I've never seen an automatic car wash that could come close to doing this so I'm guessing there is something faulty with it, i.e. it's not been well maintained or something so in all likelihood the "we are not responsible" isn't good enough in that case.
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There were two large 4 foot high cloth strip brushes (probably 2 foot wide) that come in (adjust themselves to the size of the car) and rub directly on both sides of the car. These spin at a slow rate but much to much pressure for a pontiac grand am mirror. They made quick work of the right side mirror, less than 20 seconds and the mirror was ripped off the car and the dirver side one dangled off a wire that goes inside. During this it bounced many times against the car and we were a little afraid that it would do more damage.
John
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Practically speaking, probably not. Maybe worth a call to whoever owns the car wash and complain, but I'd be surprised in this day and age if you get any satisfaction from them. Good luck though.
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Jim Crafton wrote:
Practically speaking, probably not.
We are still trying to weigh our options. And discuss this with Kathy's car insurance company. Calling the national number got a person who was unsure but thought that this constituted a collision so that a $500 deductible would apply which again would make it useless...
John
