IE8 RC1..
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Well, ... I LIKE IT ... ! Hey, I have only had it installed for about 20 minutes, but so far, it is going well! In beta 2 I could not even use Goggle in IE8 mode, but it all works fine now. I have IE7 tags in some of my sites where they did not play well with IE8, so I used the tag to force IE8 to IE7 mode, but I will have to check them out.. There was also forums site where the editor in a Phpbb forum would not work right under beta 2. Seems to work fine now also. That cleared my list of sites I had to force to IE7 mode. I do not recall this feature in IE8 B2, but when you use the Find feature to find text on a page, it now will yellow highlight all the matches in addition to selecting the first one. Pretty handy! Now they just need to build in MS Word Spell Check :) It seems handle a more progressive rendering of the page, but that may have happened before and I just did not notice it. Anyway, its all clear, not blue screens :)
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Well, ... I LIKE IT ... ! Hey, I have only had it installed for about 20 minutes, but so far, it is going well! In beta 2 I could not even use Goggle in IE8 mode, but it all works fine now. I have IE7 tags in some of my sites where they did not play well with IE8, so I used the tag to force IE8 to IE7 mode, but I will have to check them out.. There was also forums site where the editor in a Phpbb forum would not work right under beta 2. Seems to work fine now also. That cleared my list of sites I had to force to IE7 mode. I do not recall this feature in IE8 B2, but when you use the Find feature to find text on a page, it now will yellow highlight all the matches in addition to selecting the first one. Pretty handy! Now they just need to build in MS Word Spell Check :) It seems handle a more progressive rendering of the page, but that may have happened before and I just did not notice it. Anyway, its all clear, not blue screens :)
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About time they improved the Find function. It was annoying compared to FF.
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Well, ... I LIKE IT ... ! Hey, I have only had it installed for about 20 minutes, but so far, it is going well! In beta 2 I could not even use Goggle in IE8 mode, but it all works fine now. I have IE7 tags in some of my sites where they did not play well with IE8, so I used the tag to force IE8 to IE7 mode, but I will have to check them out.. There was also forums site where the editor in a Phpbb forum would not work right under beta 2. Seems to work fine now also. That cleared my list of sites I had to force to IE7 mode. I do not recall this feature in IE8 B2, but when you use the Find feature to find text on a page, it now will yellow highlight all the matches in addition to selecting the first one. Pretty handy! Now they just need to build in MS Word Spell Check :) It seems handle a more progressive rendering of the page, but that may have happened before and I just did not notice it. Anyway, its all clear, not blue screens :)
Rocky <>< Recent Blog Post: Doughboy – R.I.P. Thinking about Silverlight? www.SilverlightCity.com
I was very much hoping they wou opportunity to clean up the UI and the preferences dialog. But no - they just added more crap. Sigh. It does seem faster though, and over the months IE7 has become more and more unusable to me due to lockups and that fantastic "IE is having a problem with a script/stylesheet/"b" tag and has barfed all over itself and so, because of something tiny that doesn't really affect the page's HTML, we're going to just ditch the whole thing and show you an error page. Even though, for a moment, we actually showed you the fully rendered page. Too bad." message. OK, I paraphrased a little.
cheers, Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
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About time they improved the Find function. It was annoying compared to FF.
Astonishingly, IE8 now has a better find than Firefox thanks to this new inline search coupled with the old find whole word feature. Mozilla's reluctance to add whole word find has always baffled me.
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I was very much hoping they wou opportunity to clean up the UI and the preferences dialog. But no - they just added more crap. Sigh. It does seem faster though, and over the months IE7 has become more and more unusable to me due to lockups and that fantastic "IE is having a problem with a script/stylesheet/"b" tag and has barfed all over itself and so, because of something tiny that doesn't really affect the page's HTML, we're going to just ditch the whole thing and show you an error page. Even though, for a moment, we actually showed you the fully rendered page. Too bad." message. OK, I paraphrased a little.
cheers, Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
Chris Maunder wrote:
I was very much hoping they wou opportunity to clean up the UI and the preferences dialog.
What part of the UI do you not like? Preferences? "Internet Options"?
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Chris Maunder wrote:
I was very much hoping they wou opportunity to clean up the UI and the preferences dialog.
What part of the UI do you not like? Preferences? "Internet Options"?
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The settngs now seem spread across Settings and Page, and the Internet Options / Advanced is a dogs breakfast. Other browsers make it very simple to turn off Javascript or images. It's painful with IE (5 points if anyone knows, off the top of their head, how to do it.) And now I see they have gone and made the add-on manager a debacle. It, at least, used to be reasonably slim and quick to use. But no - they had to make it a clunky HTML based interface. I give up, as I'm guessing many others will too. FWIW I can't stand Chrome, but I'm finding even using that to be less aggrevating than IE these days.
cheers, Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
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The settngs now seem spread across Settings and Page, and the Internet Options / Advanced is a dogs breakfast. Other browsers make it very simple to turn off Javascript or images. It's painful with IE (5 points if anyone knows, off the top of their head, how to do it.) And now I see they have gone and made the add-on manager a debacle. It, at least, used to be reasonably slim and quick to use. But no - they had to make it a clunky HTML based interface. I give up, as I'm guessing many others will too. FWIW I can't stand Chrome, but I'm finding even using that to be less aggrevating than IE these days.
cheers, Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
Chris Maunder wrote:
The settngs now seem spread across Settings and Page, and the Internet Options / Advanced is a dogs breakfast.
Well, things that relate to the page view that a person might commonly change seem to make since to be on the page menu where they are at and the tool menu is that same that it has been for ages. Same with Internet Options / Advanced. Everyone that has used IE should be familar with them. Imagine the complaints if they changed it like this did things in Office 2007...
Chris Maunder wrote:
Other browsers make it very simple to turn off Javascript or images. It's painful with IE (5 points if anyone knows, off the top of their head, how to do it.)
Javsscript has typically been handled by security settings for ages, again no change here. As for graphics, I cannot see any value in every turning those off, so I would not be a good test :) I think maybe you have been spending all your time in "other" browsers and you expect IE to change to be like them instead of just being IE as it has always been. IE has changed in many ways, but still familar to use for those of us who use it every day. Whent he moved the menus around it was bit off for a while, but things settled down. The main point with IE 8 is that it renders closer to standards than any prior version, it is faster now than prior versions, it runs every tab in a separate instance (wish they would add the ability to dock and undock them like Chrome, but no biggy). I am not a Chrome fan either. Today I was thinking about using showModalDialog (need full postback for some information outside the realm of a hever AJAX page) which most late model browsers now support, but Google decided that they would not actually be modal, so they can easily get hidden behind windows and cause confusion. I am just about to the point to dump the page, do it in Silverlight and force anyone who wants to use it to have Silverlight. Browser wars make my X| Guess it all just depends on what you are use to and how you want to use it. IF that ain't a tag line ;)
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Chris Maunder wrote:
The settngs now seem spread across Settings and Page, and the Internet Options / Advanced is a dogs breakfast.
Well, things that relate to the page view that a person might commonly change seem to make since to be on the page menu where they are at and the tool menu is that same that it has been for ages. Same with Internet Options / Advanced. Everyone that has used IE should be familar with them. Imagine the complaints if they changed it like this did things in Office 2007...
Chris Maunder wrote:
Other browsers make it very simple to turn off Javascript or images. It's painful with IE (5 points if anyone knows, off the top of their head, how to do it.)
Javsscript has typically been handled by security settings for ages, again no change here. As for graphics, I cannot see any value in every turning those off, so I would not be a good test :) I think maybe you have been spending all your time in "other" browsers and you expect IE to change to be like them instead of just being IE as it has always been. IE has changed in many ways, but still familar to use for those of us who use it every day. Whent he moved the menus around it was bit off for a while, but things settled down. The main point with IE 8 is that it renders closer to standards than any prior version, it is faster now than prior versions, it runs every tab in a separate instance (wish they would add the ability to dock and undock them like Chrome, but no biggy). I am not a Chrome fan either. Today I was thinking about using showModalDialog (need full postback for some information outside the realm of a hever AJAX page) which most late model browsers now support, but Google decided that they would not actually be modal, so they can easily get hidden behind windows and cause confusion. I am just about to the point to dump the page, do it in Silverlight and force anyone who wants to use it to have Silverlight. Browser wars make my X| Guess it all just depends on what you are use to and how you want to use it. IF that ain't a tag line ;)
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Rocky Moore wrote:
Javsscript has typically been handled by security settings for ages, again no change here
Well that's the point, right? For a long time Javascript was merely a security setting no one cared about, but seeing as browsers cannot actually manage to block popups, and seeing as so many sites have javascript errors, it's so nice just to be able to click "Javascript begone!" (They can even use that as the menu item name. I give them the rights unconditionally!) I honestly feel there's a case to be made for simplifying things like that, and also a huge case for simplifying the whole settings overall. The endless burrowing into dialog ofter tab page after dialog that Microsoft does drives me insane.
Rocky Moore wrote:
I think maybe you have been spending all your time in "other" browsers
Is that a bad thing? Microsoft have certainly shown a willingness to completely change UI paradigms at the drop of a hat (The IE7 toolbars were very different than IE6, Office Ribbons, WMP11...)
cheers, Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
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Rocky Moore wrote:
Javsscript has typically been handled by security settings for ages, again no change here
Well that's the point, right? For a long time Javascript was merely a security setting no one cared about, but seeing as browsers cannot actually manage to block popups, and seeing as so many sites have javascript errors, it's so nice just to be able to click "Javascript begone!" (They can even use that as the menu item name. I give them the rights unconditionally!) I honestly feel there's a case to be made for simplifying things like that, and also a huge case for simplifying the whole settings overall. The endless burrowing into dialog ofter tab page after dialog that Microsoft does drives me insane.
Rocky Moore wrote:
I think maybe you have been spending all your time in "other" browsers
Is that a bad thing? Microsoft have certainly shown a willingness to completely change UI paradigms at the drop of a hat (The IE7 toolbars were very different than IE6, Office Ribbons, WMP11...)
cheers, Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
Chris Maunder wrote:
Is that a bad thing? Microsoft have certainly shown a willingness to completely change UI paradigms at the drop of a hat (The IE7 toolbars were very different than IE6, Office Ribbons, WMP11...)
Wait until the big ribbon bar coming in IE 9 :)
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