The sky is falling! The sky is falling!
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No. I'm talking about things like the smog in California and in big cities and polluted water and ground from dumping. Al Gore is a hypocrite.
wolfbinary wrote:
I'm talking about things like the smog in California and in big cities and polluted water and ground from dumping
OK, I may have misunderstood. :rose:
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.
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The end is nigh![^] "The Goracle" is turning into a cartoon character, he's about to asplode. I guess he's getting desperate.
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wolfbinary wrote:
I'm talking about things like the smog in California and in big cities and polluted water and ground from dumping
OK, I may have misunderstood. :rose:
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.
It's okay now that we're past the first date. :) I've read AP articles on water treatment studies showing chemicals from viagra to anti-depressants. I think energy independence is in our own national self interest or national security. I would like to know and I think it's to our benefit, to know more about the climate and cycles of the Earth. Putting money into that can only help us, I would think.
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Oh sure, clean up all we can. And stop buying from these idiots that think we need one more disposable product. But I don't think that cleaning up the environment has anything to do with Gore and his movement. He just wants to scare people into his Cap and Trade scheme, which his company is ready to make a killing on. To him, it's all about creating a virtual commodity, mandated by government, that he's uniquely qualified to capitalize on. With the added bonus that it plays into the movement of the global Left. It distracts governments and people, endocrinates the public (especially kids), energizes radicals and recruits new ones under the guise of a nobel cause. And if they get their way, it will make huge strides toward a world socialist government. Gore is just a bad actor in his own little play.
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Closing the eyes and negating there's a problem, that's the solution!
When they kick at your front door How you gonna come? With your hands on your head Or on the trigger of your gun?
Yep, what are those 'legalize drugs' idiots thinking anyway? Anyway, back to the subject of Gore's hot air...
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Ya lost me. :confused:
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Yep, what are those 'legalize drugs' idiots thinking anyway? Anyway, back to the subject of Gore's hot air...
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BoneSoft wrote:
what are those 'legalize drugs' idiots thinking anyway
Hey! I resemble that remark! "Prohibition goes beyond the bounds of reason in that it attempts to control a man's appetite by legislation and makes crimes out of things that are not crimes. A prohibition law strikes a blow at the very principles upon which our government was founded." ~ Abraham Lincoln
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.
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BoneSoft wrote:
what are those 'legalize drugs' idiots thinking anyway
Hey! I resemble that remark! "Prohibition goes beyond the bounds of reason in that it attempts to control a man's appetite by legislation and makes crimes out of things that are not crimes. A prohibition law strikes a blow at the very principles upon which our government was founded." ~ Abraham Lincoln
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.
"The advent of crack cocaine was the single worst blow to African American progress since Jim Crow" - The dude who wrote Freakonomics (actually that's paraphrased, I don't have it in front of me ;P )
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Yep, what are those 'legalize drugs' idiots thinking anyway? Anyway, back to the subject of Gore's hot air...
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Yea, what he says makes sense.
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BoneSoft wrote:
what are those 'legalize drugs' idiots thinking anyway
Hey! I resemble that remark! "Prohibition goes beyond the bounds of reason in that it attempts to control a man's appetite by legislation and makes crimes out of things that are not crimes. A prohibition law strikes a blow at the very principles upon which our government was founded." ~ Abraham Lincoln
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.
Oakman wrote:
"Prohibition goes beyond the bounds of reason in that it attempts to control a man's appetite by legislation and makes crimes out of things that are not crimes. A prohibition law strikes a blow at the very principles upon which our government was founded." ~ Abraham Lincoln
Abe my Man! :)
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"The advent of crack cocaine was the single worst blow to African American progress since Jim Crow" - The dude who wrote Freakonomics (actually that's paraphrased, I don't have it in front of me ;P )
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BoneSoft wrote:
"The advent of crack cocaine was the single worst blow to African American progress since Jim Crow"
I think that is probably true. Until crack came along cocaine was the drug of the rich. That meant a relatively small distribution chain of relatively genteel pushers who did most of their business in the executive washroom. Then it became a mass market drug available not only to the do-ers and shakers who wanted a buzz, but to people with not much of a life or hope of one who wanted nothing but to dream their life away. However, I don't believe we are talking race here as much as poverty. Fancy Madison Avenue types who happened to be as black as the ace of spades had no more (or less) trouble keeping their dependency under control that their white counterparts. Crack cocaine is cheap, not color-conscious. The inordinate profits of drug-dealing lie in the fact that it is illegal. The DEA is the pusher's Federal price support program. If drugs could be bought in stores like booze, it doesn't mean that there wouldn't be people adicted to cocaine (or fill in whatever drug you wish) just as there are people addicted to alcohol, but it would cut the cost of our prisons down; it would mean that we would need a lot less cops to keep a quieter peace, and we could use some of the money we saved by not creating more and more of a police state investigating ways of breaking someone's dependency on drugs or alcohol. Plus the Feds could tax drugs and make oodles more money.
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.
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BoneSoft wrote:
"The advent of crack cocaine was the single worst blow to African American progress since Jim Crow"
I think that is probably true. Until crack came along cocaine was the drug of the rich. That meant a relatively small distribution chain of relatively genteel pushers who did most of their business in the executive washroom. Then it became a mass market drug available not only to the do-ers and shakers who wanted a buzz, but to people with not much of a life or hope of one who wanted nothing but to dream their life away. However, I don't believe we are talking race here as much as poverty. Fancy Madison Avenue types who happened to be as black as the ace of spades had no more (or less) trouble keeping their dependency under control that their white counterparts. Crack cocaine is cheap, not color-conscious. The inordinate profits of drug-dealing lie in the fact that it is illegal. The DEA is the pusher's Federal price support program. If drugs could be bought in stores like booze, it doesn't mean that there wouldn't be people adicted to cocaine (or fill in whatever drug you wish) just as there are people addicted to alcohol, but it would cut the cost of our prisons down; it would mean that we would need a lot less cops to keep a quieter peace, and we could use some of the money we saved by not creating more and more of a police state investigating ways of breaking someone's dependency on drugs or alcohol. Plus the Feds could tax drugs and make oodles more money.
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.
No we're not talking about race. However, a significant portion of the poor are black. What we're talking about is the destructive nature of some drugs. Sure you would reduce the number of drug dealers, but drugs are the problem, not just the crime associated with them. I dunno, we're all screwed now anyway, who am I to suggest people not kill themselves in horrific ways. Oh yeah, I'm the tax payer that get's to give them a 'tax cut' free health care. But I digress.
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Yea, what he says makes sense.
Who, Gore or Karl? Nevermind, it really doesn't matter. I disagree.
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No we're not talking about race. However, a significant portion of the poor are black. What we're talking about is the destructive nature of some drugs. Sure you would reduce the number of drug dealers, but drugs are the problem, not just the crime associated with them. I dunno, we're all screwed now anyway, who am I to suggest people not kill themselves in horrific ways. Oh yeah, I'm the tax payer that get's to give them a 'tax cut' free health care. But I digress.
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BoneSoft wrote:
but drugs are the problem
And has criminalizing them reduced the number who take drugs? It sure didn't work that way for alcohol. Eliot Ness made a name for himself making alcohol expensive. When the country finally said, "enough!" he simply switched over and began trying to get marijuana criminalized. Once it was, he started what became the DEA. By the way, I'm pretty sure that down in Colombia, Juan Valdez keep planting cocoa leaf and marijuana fields just so he can call up the federales and collect the reward. :omg:
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.
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BoneSoft wrote:
but drugs are the problem
And has criminalizing them reduced the number who take drugs? It sure didn't work that way for alcohol. Eliot Ness made a name for himself making alcohol expensive. When the country finally said, "enough!" he simply switched over and began trying to get marijuana criminalized. Once it was, he started what became the DEA. By the way, I'm pretty sure that down in Colombia, Juan Valdez keep planting cocoa leaf and marijuana fields just so he can call up the federales and collect the reward. :omg:
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.
Oakman wrote:
And has criminalizing them reduced the number who take drugs?
There's probably no way to answer accurately, but logic should be sufficient. Logic would tell you that since criminalizing drugs the appeal, thus the number of people who take part, is greater than if one to go to CVS and pick up a blunt or a toot - that is unless human nature has somehow run amuk. The real danger (opinion alert) is a derivative of the fact drugs are ilegal. If legal then a user could simply go to whatever outlet has been authorized and make a purchase. Assuming it is a drugstore there would be no one there to offer heroin, for example. When making use of the local dealer there is always the chance to be offered a free trial of something far far worse.
Mike - typical white guy. The USA does have universal healthcare, but you have to pay for it. D'oh. Thomas Mann - "Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil." The NYT - my leftist brochure. Calling an illegal alien an “undocumented immigrant” is like calling a drug dealer an “unlicensed pharmacist”. God doesn't believe in atheists, therefore they don't exist.
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Who, Gore or Karl? Nevermind, it really doesn't matter. I disagree.
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I meant Gore, and used the question icon to try and indicate a questionable reply, in the absence of a sarcasm icon.