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I think CP should reward you based on the average rating for your articles, not the quantity. I think that would discourage stupid artilces. So instead of getting Bronze after so many, you get a higher level if you average a certain amount. Thoughts?
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I think CP should reward you based on the average rating for your articles, not the quantity. I think that would discourage stupid artilces. So instead of getting Bronze after so many, you get a higher level if you average a certain amount. Thoughts?
Quantity does indicate a reader's involvement with the site but not the quality. The measurement for quality is really difficult. Rating (votes) does not alwasy reflect the quality since there are so many readers at different skill levels. An advance article could have a low rating by beginners while a good beginner's article deos not fit the taste of adavance readers.
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I think CP should reward you based on the average rating for your articles, not the quantity. I think that would discourage stupid artilces. So instead of getting Bronze after so many, you get a higher level if you average a certain amount. Thoughts?
Considering the low scores on my articles I have to vote for quantity of quality. However, I am not really here for any ranking. I prefer accomplishments IRL.
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I think CP should reward you based on the average rating for your articles, not the quantity. I think that would discourage stupid artilces. So instead of getting Bronze after so many, you get a higher level if you average a certain amount. Thoughts?
I was thinking something along those lines too; not just x number of articles, but x number rated above some minimum.
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Quantity does indicate a reader's involvement with the site but not the quality. The measurement for quality is really difficult. Rating (votes) does not alwasy reflect the quality since there are so many readers at different skill levels. An advance article could have a low rating by beginners while a good beginner's article deos not fit the taste of adavance readers.
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Tomz_KV wrote:
a good beginner's article deos not fit the taste of adavance readers
Not sure I agree with that. I think well-experienced users can recognize a good beginners' article. Come to think of it, beginners may not be qualified to write beginners' articles. :~ Textbooks aren't written by students.
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Considering the low scores on my articles I have to vote for quantity of quality. However, I am not really here for any ranking. I prefer accomplishments IRL.
Need software developed? Offering C# development all over the United States, ERL GLOBAL, Inc is the only call you will have to make.
If you don't ask questions the answers won't stand in your way.
Most of this sig is for Google, not ego.OK, I just took a quick look at your articles (the few there are :-D ), only the object pooling one looked interesting, but when I saw "weak reference" my eyes glazed over. I doubt any of them deserve a 1, but I'll have to abstain... courteously. Actually, I was working on a sort of object pooling a while back, but it turned out to be (much) less efficient in the application I wanted to use it, so I stopped developing it until such time that it may be of use.
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OK, I just took a quick look at your articles (the few there are :-D ), only the object pooling one looked interesting, but when I saw "weak reference" my eyes glazed over. I doubt any of them deserve a 1, but I'll have to abstain... courteously. Actually, I was working on a sort of object pooling a while back, but it turned out to be (much) less efficient in the application I wanted to use it, so I stopped developing it until such time that it may be of use.
Some one emailed me about the Object Pooling article and used it in a production system, it worked wonders from what I was told. I never claimed to have great articles but I sort expected an average of 3. I was flabbergasted at the comments I got for my key space problem article ( I actually spent a lot of paper time doing the math) Bottom line, I decided that if I think of something interesting I will right an article about it but topics covering Business Software Development are so pedestrian and frankly make me yawn. Unfortunately, my best ideas I can't publish in articles because I keep them in my little innovation vault. Good enough to sell if I could ever get off my lazy rear and do it.
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I think CP should reward you based on the average rating for your articles, not the quantity. I think that would discourage stupid artilces. So instead of getting Bronze after so many, you get a higher level if you average a certain amount. Thoughts?
On a theoretical level, what you say has merit. After all, awards and recognition are usually given for quality. Who has won the most marathons? Easy to find out. Who has run the most miles? Hard to find out, because few care. But getting back to the practical level, this is CP, not heaven, and here there be trolls and any number of immature idiots who will down-vote an article - without even reading it - just because of the author. Take a look at John Simmons' articles page - an average rating of less than 4, and yet most of his articles are excellent, and a few are brilliant. You can guess why this is so, if you have read even a few of his posts on the forums. There's a fine line between a community and a dictatorship, but over time I think the community will take care of the bad articles, by use of Report button, and by pointing out and discussing excellent articles - and yes, also voting on them.
Best wishes, Hans
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On a theoretical level, what you say has merit. After all, awards and recognition are usually given for quality. Who has won the most marathons? Easy to find out. Who has run the most miles? Hard to find out, because few care. But getting back to the practical level, this is CP, not heaven, and here there be trolls and any number of immature idiots who will down-vote an article - without even reading it - just because of the author. Take a look at John Simmons' articles page - an average rating of less than 4, and yet most of his articles are excellent, and a few are brilliant. You can guess why this is so, if you have read even a few of his posts on the forums. There's a fine line between a community and a dictatorship, but over time I think the community will take care of the bad articles, by use of Report button, and by pointing out and discussing excellent articles - and yes, also voting on them.
Best wishes, Hans
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That's certainly all true. But good articles should also attract high ratings from the non-trolls and that may not happen. A troll may down-vote a "brilliant" article because it's not at the troll's level, whereas a non-troll may abstain because it's not at his level either. I can tell a piece of shizzle, but there are plenty of articles that are over my head, and I know that.
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On a theoretical level, what you say has merit. After all, awards and recognition are usually given for quality. Who has won the most marathons? Easy to find out. Who has run the most miles? Hard to find out, because few care. But getting back to the practical level, this is CP, not heaven, and here there be trolls and any number of immature idiots who will down-vote an article - without even reading it - just because of the author. Take a look at John Simmons' articles page - an average rating of less than 4, and yet most of his articles are excellent, and a few are brilliant. You can guess why this is so, if you have read even a few of his posts on the forums. There's a fine line between a community and a dictatorship, but over time I think the community will take care of the bad articles, by use of Report button, and by pointing out and discussing excellent articles - and yes, also voting on them.
Best wishes, Hans
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Agree on trolls and John Simmons stuff. But to me CP is heaven, at least from a coders perspective. :)
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Tomz_KV wrote:
a good beginner's article deos not fit the taste of adavance readers
Not sure I agree with that. I think well-experienced users can recognize a good beginners' article. Come to think of it, beginners may not be qualified to write beginners' articles. :~ Textbooks aren't written by students.
Beginners should read and not write. Kinda like kids should speak only when spoken to. I see so many articles out here about what you can learn right out of a book and when marked beginner thats fine. An article should be art created by the application of technology.
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That's certainly all true. But good articles should also attract high ratings from the non-trolls and that may not happen. A troll may down-vote a "brilliant" article because it's not at the troll's level, whereas a non-troll may abstain because it's not at his level either. I can tell a piece of shizzle, but there are plenty of articles that are over my head, and I know that.
I agree. The general approach here is to not exclude something just because you don't like it - which leads to some friction, but also a good exchange of ideas. In the long run, the community will decide. This philosophy tends to equate "quantity" with "participation". That's probably the best you can do, short of a case-by-case judgment.
Best wishes, Hans
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On a theoretical level, what you say has merit. After all, awards and recognition are usually given for quality. Who has won the most marathons? Easy to find out. Who has run the most miles? Hard to find out, because few care. But getting back to the practical level, this is CP, not heaven, and here there be trolls and any number of immature idiots who will down-vote an article - without even reading it - just because of the author. Take a look at John Simmons' articles page - an average rating of less than 4, and yet most of his articles are excellent, and a few are brilliant. You can guess why this is so, if you have read even a few of his posts on the forums. There's a fine line between a community and a dictatorship, but over time I think the community will take care of the bad articles, by use of Report button, and by pointing out and discussing excellent articles - and yes, also voting on them.
Best wishes, Hans
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Simmons' injuries are self-inflicted... and to follow on your analogy, Simmons would've also been stripped of medals won on any sport because of his many bigotted comments. This is a technical site.
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DaTxomin wrote:
Simmons would've also been stripped of medals won on any sport because of his many bigotted comments.
And if he was a politician, he'd have quite the struggle during election season. OTOH, if he was a tree, he'd be world famous...
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Or infamous. If his obsession were with blacks (for example), he would've been banned from the site a long time ago. However, xenophobia is sadly "ok" around here...
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I think CP should reward you based on the average rating for your articles, not the quantity. I think that would discourage stupid artilces. So instead of getting Bronze after so many, you get a higher level if you average a certain amount. Thoughts?
Unfortunately sometimes quality is not related to article rating (i.e. the latest rant against Mr.Univoter :rolleyes: ). :)
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I think CP should reward you based on the average rating for your articles, not the quantity. I think that would discourage stupid artilces. So instead of getting Bronze after so many, you get a higher level if you average a certain amount. Thoughts?
I think you should step away from the keyboard and go out with real live people in a social setting. Does a higher rating allow you to read and download more advanced articles? CodeProject, as the name implies, is a site where you can discuss or download code, not Facebook or MySpace where desperate people try to get a life that they are not able to have in person. All this talk about CP ranking is, in my opinion, misguided. Gold or platinum status on CP doesn't get you a discount when you board a bus or buy a cup of coffee. :~
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I was thinking something along those lines too; not just x number of articles, but x number rated above some minimum.
The only articles we mortal CPians see are those judged fit for inclusion. Therefore IMO the quality issue has already been resolved. The ranking is awarded on articles published, not articles submitted.
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Or infamous. If his obsession were with blacks (for example), he would've been banned from the site a long time ago. However, xenophobia is sadly "ok" around here...
I have very few obsessions (and none of them deal with race, religion, or national origins), and pretty much all of my "bigoted statements" are based on nationality and/or religion, and most of those are meant in sarcasm/jest. If you don't have anything resembling a sense of humor, that's your own mental deficiency, and I think you should probably seek professional help. Further, if you carry this puerile attitude with you as you review and vote on my articles, that's just plain wrong. My articles have nothing at all to do with my politics or sense of humor, and neither should your voting be swayed by such considerations. Instead, you should consider the technical merit, the quality of the explanatory text, and the appropriateness of the subject matter. As far as race is concerned, I don't have problems with anybody that wants to be a self-reliant, responsible, and productive member of society - it's the lazy, self-pitying as*holes that feel the rest of society owes them something that piss me off - regardless of their skin color. So go ahead and label me any way you like, but in my view that's a very narrow-minded attitude to hold onto, and you're that much less of a person in my eyes as a result. I'm sure that doesn't bother you since you feel you're better than I am... Now, I really have no idea what I did or said to piss you off, but even if I did, I probably wouldn't apologize. You can ask Nish about that.
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