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  • J jdrodas

    Hi everyone! With all this hype about netbooks, I was wondering if it's possible to run Visual Studio 2008 on a Intel's Atom based netbook. I don't need to create any "fancy stuff", just the basic educational and learning material, something to keep me awake during those boring lectures at college. The portability and price are very attractive, considering this one would be my secondary pc. What do you think? JuanD

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    At 256 to 512MB of RAM, running VS2008 would be PAINFULL, since it's recommended min RAM is 1GB. Also, 2-4GB of storage is barely enough to install Windows, let alone Visual Studio. And a 7" to 10" display would make the work surface so small, you'd get sick of using it very quickly. It would probably be like trying to read a magazine through a soda straw.

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      At 256 to 512MB of RAM, running VS2008 would be PAINFULL, since it's recommended min RAM is 1GB. Also, 2-4GB of storage is barely enough to install Windows, let alone Visual Studio. And a 7" to 10" display would make the work surface so small, you'd get sick of using it very quickly. It would probably be like trying to read a magazine through a soda straw.

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      Thank you Dave. about the specs: 2GB RAM, 9" display with 1024x600 resolution. it also has 80 GB of HDD. You made an excellent point with the work area of the display, considering the size of the panels in VS'08. But my concerns are related with the processor load... I mean, Would Intel Atom be able to handle Vs'08? Will it perform like a Celeron?

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        Thank you Dave. about the specs: 2GB RAM, 9" display with 1024x600 resolution. it also has 80 GB of HDD. You made an excellent point with the work area of the display, considering the size of the panels in VS'08. But my concerns are related with the processor load... I mean, Would Intel Atom be able to handle Vs'08? Will it perform like a Celeron?

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        I mean, Would Intel Atom be able to handle Vs'08? Will it perform like a Celeron?

        I have no idea. You'd probably have to compare benchmarks for your current development machine against those of an Atom-based machine.

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        • J jdrodas

          Hi everyone! With all this hype about netbooks, I was wondering if it's possible to run Visual Studio 2008 on a Intel's Atom based netbook. I don't need to create any "fancy stuff", just the basic educational and learning material, something to keep me awake during those boring lectures at college. The portability and price are very attractive, considering this one would be my secondary pc. What do you think? JuanD

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          jdrodas wrote:

          What do you think?

          It really depends on how much memory you have. If less than 512 I would not recommend it. Why not grab an old copy of VC6 and put that on there? Best Wishes, -David Delaune

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            jdrodas wrote:

            What do you think?

            It really depends on how much memory you have. If less than 512 I would not recommend it. Why not grab an old copy of VC6 and put that on there? Best Wishes, -David Delaune

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            jdrodas
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            Hi Randor... I'm using C#.NET, so VC6 is not an option ( I wish it would :sigh: ) I guess i'll try an Express Edition of Visual C#.NET 2008 instead of Visual Studio 2008, considering the facts Dave previously told me. Maybe the amount of RAM memory seems adecuate (2GB), but the performance of the processor is yet to be determined. Thank you guys for your time. JuanD

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              Thank you Dave. about the specs: 2GB RAM, 9" display with 1024x600 resolution. it also has 80 GB of HDD. You made an excellent point with the work area of the display, considering the size of the panels in VS'08. But my concerns are related with the processor load... I mean, Would Intel Atom be able to handle Vs'08? Will it perform like a Celeron?

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              Dan Neely
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              Performance wise it shouldn't be much worse than an athlon/p-m 1.5 or so. Not speedy by any means but you should be able to do demo level activity. It does have a celeron sized cache. IMO the screen resolution would be the biggest killer. Aside from the HP 2133/2140 series no one has a screen larger than 1024x600. THe 2133 has a 9(?)" 1280x768 but is crippled by a via C7, the 2140 has a 1376x768 10" display (same DPI as 1280x800) but won't be available until later in the year.

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              • J jdrodas

                Hi everyone! With all this hype about netbooks, I was wondering if it's possible to run Visual Studio 2008 on a Intel's Atom based netbook. I don't need to create any "fancy stuff", just the basic educational and learning material, something to keep me awake during those boring lectures at college. The portability and price are very attractive, considering this one would be my secondary pc. What do you think? JuanD

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                Adding to what I said yesterday, I've seen a few people who tried VS on a netbook. Those who found it unusable complained generally about the screen resolution, not the CPU speed.

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                • J jdrodas

                  Hi everyone! With all this hype about netbooks, I was wondering if it's possible to run Visual Studio 2008 on a Intel's Atom based netbook. I don't need to create any "fancy stuff", just the basic educational and learning material, something to keep me awake during those boring lectures at college. The portability and price are very attractive, considering this one would be my secondary pc. What do you think? JuanD

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                  I use VS on a NetBook, but prefer my larger laptop. It is not at all bad if you auto-hide every panel. Makes dev a little slower, but for me it works perfect because I only ever use it if I am bored and want to work on a side project, or if I have a bug that is quick and easy to fix, or mission critically important to fix. I carry that little thing everywhere. I have the MSI Wind by the way, they are AMAZING for what they are and the price. They are called NetBooks because they were designed from the ground up for web browsing. Just keep that in mind. Also for what it is worth, I normally dev on a 26" 1920x1280 screen, and the little screen didn't bother me any. Those Atom processors are beast. They use no power, little heat created, and they are a real work horse. And the same dev machine with the 26" has dual 3.4Ghz dual core Xeon procs. I am used to power and size and the MSI Wind surprised the hell out of me.

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                  • J jdrodas

                    Hi everyone! With all this hype about netbooks, I was wondering if it's possible to run Visual Studio 2008 on a Intel's Atom based netbook. I don't need to create any "fancy stuff", just the basic educational and learning material, something to keep me awake during those boring lectures at college. The portability and price are very attractive, considering this one would be my secondary pc. What do you think? JuanD

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                    jdrodas wrote:

                    something to keep me awake during those boring lectures at college.

                    How about just paying attention in class? The last thing we need is some half-educated jerk-off trying to call himself a programmer.

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                    • J jdrodas

                      Hi everyone! With all this hype about netbooks, I was wondering if it's possible to run Visual Studio 2008 on a Intel's Atom based netbook. I don't need to create any "fancy stuff", just the basic educational and learning material, something to keep me awake during those boring lectures at college. The portability and price are very attractive, considering this one would be my secondary pc. What do you think? JuanD

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                      I've been using Visual Studio 2008 on my EEE PC 1000H for 2 years and I have no complaints. I can confirm that Visual Studio runs fine on a netbook, the Atom CPU is powerful enough, you should only get used to the small screen resolution (1024 x 600 in my case). Vladovsoft
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                        I've been using Visual Studio 2008 on my EEE PC 1000H for 2 years and I have no complaints. I can confirm that Visual Studio runs fine on a netbook, the Atom CPU is powerful enough, you should only get used to the small screen resolution (1024 x 600 in my case). Vladovsoft
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                        jdrodas
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                        Thank you Pavel for your answer. It's been a year now and these are some of the issues of using Visual Studio on a netbook: - It's a great tool for fast implementations of concepts I'm seing in my courses. - The resolution it's not the best for projects that require you to use all the VS panels. Most of the time I kept all the panels hidden. - 2GB and Windows XP Professional SP3 seems to do the trick. I didn't tried the Windows 7 experience. I don't need it in this machine. Greetings, JuanD

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